My MEGA 180 is hotter than a hair dryer :(

Hi folks,
I've a massivly temperature Problem with my new Mega 180 (3000 Athlon XP, 2*512 MB RAM, Radeon 9800XT)
We've already checked the installation of the headsink two times and it semms that he is correctly installed.
Yesterday (with closed cover) we ran 3DMark 2003 over 6 hours an the CPU-temperature was stable at 69-75° C, system temperature about 50° C
Today i installed the new BIOS, and the first time i was able to get a CPU-temperature about 45° C on startup, now after 1 hour uptime it is about 67° C with an average cpu usage of 10%. But my cover is also opened :/
Playing UT pushes the temperature over 85° C. Oh damn
So what could cause such high temperatures? Of course the AGP card will block the airflow, but I've heard about users running their system with AGP-Card and a stable temerature about 45° C
1) I've noticed that the cooler fans run sometimes with only about 3200 rpm, even if the temperature is over 60° C. Is the cooler speed controlled by BIOS or PC Alert? Would there be a possibily to run the fan always with 5400 rpm or even higher?
2) Sometimes there are huge differences in CPU temperature. From 60° to 72° withing 15 seconds. Is this normal?
3) Are there any fans that run with more than 5400 rpms and fit onto the heatsink? So i would replace the original fans. What about placing a HDD cooler in the mediacard slot? Would it be useful? What aoubt a cooler in the PCI-slot?
I would be glad if somebody can give me some suggestions or tips. If temperatur stays so high i would give the barebone back...
thx

Yeah, Im having issues with heat also, hitting upwards of 62 degrees and thats after Ive modified the heatsink and mounted an additional fan on top!
I think the MSI are badly designed in terms of airflow and cooling. Having the AGP slot right next to the heatsink fan is a bit .... well stupid really. Even if I was to reverse the fans on the heatsink, to pull in cooler air from the right hand side of the case, Im still gonna be pumping hot air directly onto the back of the GFX card.
MSI should have, in my opinion, put the AGP slot on the far left of the motherboard, instead of the PCI slot that is currently located there. Then at least, one would be able to mount a decent extractor fan that fits into the PCI slot to blow hot air away. Then the heatsink fans could be reversed to draw cooler air in from outside the case.
This is the type of fan Im referring too.
Not only this, but the PSU unit gets really hot too, and the fan inside that puts out a pathetic amount of airflow.
I can appreciate that MSI were trying to keep the noise levels down - but Id sooner have a slightly less quiet pc... than something I can cook marshmellows on

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I've had my MEGA 180 for almost two weeks and like many here it has been a pain in my butt.
After reformatting and installing the software in a certain order I finally got my system somewhat stable, but I am running into new issues now.
My compact flash drives no longer show up in my computer, I can't find them in Device Manager either. Also every now and then my network card will only send not receive. Tried different cables and it's no help. It may also be my cable modem, but I don't know.
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As far as their bundled software, MSI Media Center is the biggest POS I have ever used. I am currently using ShowShifter and it works REALLY well with my 8606 master tuner.
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[MEGA 180] 1600x1200x32

Hello,
is it just me or is the MEGA 180 GPU incapable of showing the 1600x1200x32 resolution? Also i don't get XP to accept 1600x1200x16 at more than 60Hz....
Greetings,
Peter@pullin' hair.....

adding a second dimm,and its better they are the same,mixing rams a lottery
doubles the bandwith the vga processor gets and all but doubles things like 3d marks score
the drivers will look to see whats there and will cut down the options with just one
people have also edited an ini file to get more options in the past as far as screen size goes as nvidia limit it to 3 as i recall

Things to Know Before Building Your Mega 180

Some people have asked me for a list of tips so here is my attempt---I'll ask Wonk to sticky it if it turns out OK....
Feel free to PM me with more tips---I'll add as necessary....
TIP SHEET FOR THE MEGA 180:
So you bought that new Mega 180 and the docs leave a lot to be desired......Don't panic!! Take a look at this tip sheet. Should save you a lot of hours!
RAM AND PROCESSOR:
Several things here.....If you are going to use onboard video----you should NOT use higher RAM than PC 2700----waste of money to buy higher as the Nforce2 18G "Crush" was only designed to run no higher than with DDR333 RAM (PC2700). Nvidia warns against it on their site. I have personally experienced a LOT of problems when you try to run the onboard at DDR 400 (PC3200)----trashed Bios in most cases. Also---the 18G and to some extent---"Dual Channel" is picky about memory----try to get a matched pair of DIMMS----and if you REALLY want to be on the safe side----go to Nvidias site and look up the page that lists known, compatable memory with the NForce2 chipsetNforce2 compatable memory. I use A-Data 512 sticks---but they are hard to find.
If you are going to use a Vidcard---then higher memory is just fine----but if you are NOT planning on overclocking-----there is really NO need for higher than PC2700 as the default bus for Barton 2800+ and below is FSB 166 (DDR333---PC 2700).
Alyways run your RAM (Synch) 100%---do not play with dividers if you are using the onboard video. If you have no clue what I just said----you are fine as the defaults will take care of this----this last was for overclockers.
Processor----I like the cost of the Barton 2800+ right now----fast, cheap and even using the onboard and no overclocking----you have a fast machine that can do anything. The 2800+ also leaves the door open for a slight overclock (I have not tried this yet) without too much stress on anything.
LCD PANEL:
Do Not----I say again----Do Not use the "welcome.exe" program----or ANY other program on ANY disk or the MSI website to do ANYTHING to your front panel. That program is for the Mega 651 model and WILL TRASH YOUR LCD. The LCD panel works just fine----it doesn't need any updating.
If this advice is to late, the firmware fix is in here:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=46355&sid=
Do download and install the latest version of PC Alert MSI Mega 180 Downloads----works great with the front LCD panel and displays PC info nicely.
Use the EQ mode buttons while playing in the HiFi mode----changes the sound a lot and also the display changes------COOL!
OPTICAL DRIVE:
Use an MSI optical drive----basically anything from MSI will work fine---some other drives are reported to work fine like a NEC 2500A----but if you use an MSI drive----you can't go wrong. You might want to put the drive in another machine with a floppy first----and download and update that drive to the latest firmware (most will require a floppy to do that and the Mega 180 has none.)
CABLE MANAGEMENT:
Buy a dollar pack of cable ties and go to work-----make sure ALL cables are away from the front of the intake fan for the CPU----you want a very clear path to the cooler. Less clutter---better airflow. Better airflow----lower temps.
CPU INSTALL:
Get rid of the MSI thermal grease with some Goof Off or acetone-----and get some good Arctic Silver 3, AS5 or AS Ceramique. Clean both the chip top and the bottom of the HS with denatured alcohol before applying the thermal grease. You might also want to lapp the bottom of the HS which is not very well done----but I found it not necessary. The HS/Fan unit is very easy to install----just rotate your screw down points as perscribed by the sticker on the cooler----don't tighten one screw all the way down----then go to the next.
DRIVERS:
I found the drivers on the install disk to be non-functional---- get the latest drivers from the MSI website (you can use Live Update for this) or go to http://www.nforcershq.com and get the latest Nforce2 Driver Remix from Morpheus1 or Mwarhead.
DO NOT use the Nvidia SW IDE driver (say "No" when it asks you in the driver install) Only use the ITB (In The Box) IDE driver----it's the default driver. Your Optical device will probably not function correctly (eject, etc) with the Nvidia SW IDE driver.
Nforce2 SoundStorm Drivers are a tricky topic----there are TONS of versions out there.... I've had the best luck so far with Drivers 4.31 (Off Microsoft Windows Updates---it was a Driver Update) and Audio Control Panel 4.31. Nvidia has a driver update package now JUST for audio-----posted Here
If you are having problems with Media Center III crashing----it seems to be a conflict between the SoundStorm Drivers and Media Center III, Uninstall your Nvidia audio devices in the device manager (Three of them----there is one hidden---so go to view and "show hidden devices") then reboot and let Windows rerecognize your devices and reload drivers. This will solve most problems until Media Center II has another bad crash----in which case---you may have to do this procedure over again. You can tell if it's really hosed up because the radio sound will come on automatically at boot----or you will have lost the SoundStorm Control Panel Icon in the SysTray. I'm working on different versions of SoundStorm to see which works best---will update if I find anything new. (Update)----4.31 seems to be the best but I still can'ttotally eliminate the crashing in Media Center III.
Once you get your Lan device up and running (or your modem) Go to Windows Update and make sure you are completly updated with all latest window updates---If using WinXP-----you need to be at WinXP ServPack 1a when you are done.
Use Windows Cleanup and Defrag when you are done----ESPECIALLY cleanup---to get rid of any left over temp files in the Mega----To get the BEST and most optimised defrag----run windows defrag at least three times in a row----maybe more----it will REALLY optimise the drive.
TV CARD:
The main TV Card designed for the Mega 180 is the MSI 8606-40 Mega TV Card----be careful to get it vice the other version of the MSI 8606 which is the MSI 8606-10 TV@anywhere Master.
The Mega TV Card does not include a Radio while the 8606-10 DOES include a radio. Since your Mega 180 already has a radio----you absolutely don't need or want the 8606-10 TV@anywhere Master.
Do NOT use any drivers or software you receive with the Mega TV Card MSI 8606-40----just set the disks aside. You will ONLY uses the drivers off the Mega 180 Install Disk.
The Mega TV Card MUST be installed before the menu item for "Install TV Tuner Drivers" becomes visible on the Mega 180 install disk.
Make sure your TV Card is hooked into the line called "Remote Control" within the Mega 180 itself----there is a small 3 inch connecting wire in the TV card box.
The TV and Radio function well with the remote----but you must have MSI Media Center III installed. I could not get the TV or the Radio to work without Media Center III.
Upon initial setup of the TV within Media Center III---you may have to switch the source between cable and antenna to get the initial channels to auto scan. Once done auto scanning---switch back to cable as source (assuming you have cable).
Using the remote to force the TV screen to full screen: When you use the up/down arrows on the remote----watch the menu items on the screen----the various menu item buttons will highlight as you hit the arrows.
Once you have highlighted the little arrow button on the lower right of the screen----just below the TV display (it will turn green)----hit the ENTER key
It goes to widescreen----hit the ENTER key again------it goes to fullscreen
BTW, the remote works fine-----the trick is you HAVE to have Media Center III installed and available to be called for it to control the TV Card----Radio Etc. It will start up normally when you push the TV button on the remote.
BIOS SETTINGS:
The defaults will mostly work. One thing----to get BEST performance out of the NForce 2 Onboard video----set AGP to 128 and Set Frame Buffer to 128----I had crashes with almost any other video setting. I'm still playing with PCI clock, voltages, and some other settings to get better stability-----will let you know.....
6 CHANNEL SOUND
Use all three ports in the back of the Mega 180 and then configure it using the SoundStorm Control Panel----Use the "Speaker Setup Wizard". Check and adjust using the "Test Tone" button. I'm using an inexpensive set of Analog Altec Lansing 5.1s----the sound is excellent.
That's all for now----tell me what else you've found and I'll post.
John

My MSI MEGA 180 has a strange display on the monitor.
I opened the boxed removed all items.
Installed the CPU (supported on the CPU compatability list for the MSI MEGA 180), installed the heatsink & fan.
Installed the HD drive.
Installed the MSI DVD+/-RW
Installed 1 DIMM module of DDR RAM PC2700 333MHZ 1GB
Pushed the Power button for the PC and the desplay is corrupted.
I tried the 4 possible configurations for Jumpers 7 and 8 to alter the FSB speed with no luck.
I also tried the 4 different J7 and J8 configurations without having the HDD and DVD-RW drives connected - same result.
I also tried the 4 different J7 and J8 configurations with the Secondary VGA output connected to my monitor.
I also tried the 4 different J7 and J8 configurations with the S-Video output connected to my TV and no signal at all.
Both my monitor and HDD work fine with my other PC.
I noticed the jumper pins are not numbered - made the configuration job a bit more tedious.
Please note the LCD screen works correctly, however the redio tuner in HiFi mode doesn't pick up any local stations.
As I am a Software Test Engineer, I am 100% confident I have checked all possible configurations including clearing the CMOS, but the system simply will not display to the VDU. The POST should at least be visible when Power is turned on for the PC mode.
NOTE: I will update the RAM Brand as soon as I find out the title from the supplier, but I believe it is OEM.
NOTE II: this is the URL to the CPU used: http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=1798
PLeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssss ssssssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eee help ease my pain!!

ATI radeon card on mega 180

Is anyone using a radeon card with the mega 180 ?
Which model would fit ?
I was thinking about the sapphire 9600 xt ultimate edition
since it has passive cooling, but the cooler seems a bit big at the back of the card ?
AND does the ati TV out work better than the nvidia tv out ?
Is it possible to finetune the height /width of the picture ?
Please post any model of ATI that will fit.
I'm tired of this piece of nvidia onboard card.
Dst

I don't have a 180, I have an 865 that has an ATI Radeon card. Works great with my Mega 865, but it's one huge beast.
It took up the AGP slot, and both PCIs. I don't suggest getting this card unless you are willing to make some modifications to it straight out of the box.
HIS ATI Radeon Excalibur 9800 Pro IceQ

Lost display on Mega 180

Hi All
I have lost the front display on my mega 180. No warning just dead! I have tried the posts on the site and MSI now tell me that despite spending lots of money with them they "no longer support this item" Great for PR!!! (NOT)
CAN ANYONE HELP???

All manufacturers have a limited lifetime of manufacture and support for their products. None more so than the ever faster advancing IT industry. There comes a time when the product is EOL and not supported anymore. Have a look at Intel's chipsets and processors, you will see it all over. Unfortunately this is all part of the lifecycle of a product.
Your best bet is to look at sites like e-bay and see if someone has got something on offer.

"Easy" way to lower MEGA 180 CPU Temp

Let me start off by saying I haven't done this yet but I think it would work. I built a Mega 180 based machine for a customer and have had nothing but problems with it. I got a call from her last night to tell me that the CPU temp on the display is in the 70 C range and she is getting nervous about it (frankly, so am I). I'm picking up the PC from her in a few days to see if I can lower the CPU temp any. Here's what I'm thinking of doing:
1) Since I already lapped the bottom of the heatsink and used Artic Silver thermal grease, there's nothing else I can do in that area. It's already optimal.
2) The heatsink is 100% copper with lots of cooling fins. There isn't a better thermal material for a heatsink, within reason. Aluminum is no good. Basically, the design of the heatsink is good, but not perfect. First, why they would design the sink to suck hot air off of the video card and blow it through the fins is beyond me. Naturally, the CPU will never be cooler than the air that's being used to cool it. The heat sink needs fresh, cool air.
3) To provide the heatsink with fresh cool air I plan on first, turing the big fan on the sink around so it blows out, not in. Second, I plan on replacing the little fan with a bigger fan and position it so it blows in, not out. Then I plan on making a short duct that attaches over the fan on the right (with the front of the PC facing you) and extend the duct a few inches to the right so it is less than an inch from the side of the case. Lastly, I plan on using some lexan and making a very small deflector to put on the heatsink's exhaust fan. It will be about 1/2 inch wide and as long as the fan (80mm?). It will be tilted at a 45 degree angle. The deflector will channel the hot air away from the video card and towards the front left side of the case. This will avoid trading one heat problem (CPU) for another (video card).
If all goes well, a drop of 10 C under maximum load should be achieved. I'll let you know how this turns out.
I may also try the following:
1) Buy some RAM heat sinks and using thermal glue, glue them to the hard drive.
2) Position a 40mm fan so it blows on the heat sinks on the hard drive.
3) Position another 40mm fan so it blows across the chipset's heat sink.

god damn thats a great idea, why didnt I think of that
I lapped my heatsink last weekend, the hardware store where i got my sand paper didnt have any grid over 600 so I had to settle with that. But I'm still pleased with the results. I figured that that plus some some Artic Silver 5 would get me a bit on my way.
I would have documented it with my camera if the batteries just wasnt out :/
At the same time I installed a "silent" 15db@1500rpm 80x80mm Everflow fan on the left side of the case (when facing the front) that blows the air in. All of these efforts improved the temperature just a bit. The noise increased a bit but it isnt all that much trouble consithering I've spent my last couple of months with my ears next to a server that has the lovely sound level of around 60db (note: no case fans on the server at all)
As I recall the idle temperature used to be over 60c and now it sometimes drops below 50c. But most of the times its around 53-55c (all of this is at around 25c ambient temperature). But the heat problem while gaming is still a huge problem. When it hits around 70 the computer crashes.
But before my efforts to do something about it, it would die within 10min of high load. Now it can take up to about an hour (depending on how the ambient temperature is).
Next up I think I'm gonna try out your idea. Switch the fans, and maybe even install another Everflow fan having 4 fans totaly pulling the air through the case (but from right to left this time :P)
why call it MSI Entertainment Gaming Applicance if you cant entertain yourself by gaming on it ? =P
/Wezz

Msi Mega 180 Gaming Problems

Hi,
I having problems playing games on my MEGA 180. Everytime I play a game, after 5 to 10 minutes it just stops and goes back to desktop! Sometimes, I get the blue screen of death instead saying (basically) -
A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down......................
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
Technical information:
*** Stop: 0x000000D1 (0x2A200003, 0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0xF7B9606B)
*** USBPORT.SYS - Address F7B9606B base at F7B7D000 Datestamp 3d6ddc31
Does anyone know what this means and / or why my PC refuses to play games for more than 10 minutes? Everything else works and runs fine untill it comes to games. The blue screen of death only happens when the graphics card is in. Anyway, heres my spec -
MEGA 180
Athlon XP3000+
Crucial 512mb DDR333
MSI Geforce FX5200 T128
Seagate 120gb hard drive
MSI DVDRW
Standard heatsink, fans, power supply etc.
XP pro with sp 1 & 2
Please help!!
Thank you,
Neil.

Sounds like all of your drivers are not up to date....
Here's what M$ has to say about it (shamelessly copied and pasted from another different website/board post).
Stop 0x000000D1 or DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
The Stop 0xD1 message indicates that the system attempted to access pageable memory using a kernel process IRQL that was too high. Drivers that have used improper addresses typically cause this error.
Interpreting the Message
This Stop message has four parameters:
Memory referenced.
IRQL at time of reference.
Type of access (0x00000000 = read operation, 0x00000001 = write operation).
Address that referenced memory.
Resolving the Problem
For additional troubleshooting suggestions that apply to all Stop errors, see "Stop Message Checklist" later in this appendix.
Stop 0xD1 messages can occur after installing faulty drivers or system services. If a driver is listed by name, disable, remove, or roll back that driver to confirm that this resolves the error. If so, contact the manufacturer about a possible update. Using updated software is especially important for backup programs, multimedia applications, antivirus scanners, DVD playback, and CD mastering tools.
For more information about Stop 0xD1 messages, see the Microsoft Knowledge Base link on the Web Resources page at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/reskits/webresources. Search using keywords winnt, 0x000000D1, and 0xD1.
Update Drivers
Updated and comaptiable drivers are very important when running XP. Check your hardware with the HCL http://www.microsoft.com/hcl If you hardware is not on the list it does not mean it won't work it just means it hasn't been tested by Microsoft and they won't Guarantee it to be compatible. If it not on the list check the manufacturer's website fo an up to date XP driver, if they don't have one you may be out of luck. This goes for motherboards and the bios too.

Mega 180 voltage problem

Dear all,
I just bought this Mega 180 with Athlon 3000+, 1G RAM, using the onboard graphics card.
I took the advice in this forum and reverse the fans direction, although it decreased the cpu temp by 3-4C, but it increased the sys as much as 8C... I think it's something which we need to be aware of since the cpu certainly can torlerate higher temp than, say the board and harddisk...
OK, let's talk about my problem, two days ago, when I was running sandra 2005 ram/cpu benchmark, PC alert 4 warns me that the 3.3V supply is too low, it drops down to 2.8V once...
My initial thought was that it's because of the high internal temp which gives extra resistance to the board circuit, but after I reverse back the fan, it still stays around 3.13V... which by the ATX standard (3.3V + or - 5%) it's still dangerously low...
Can anyone here share what their voltages are? and does anyone knows whether my voltage would have any negative effects?
Another observation to the Mega180, I hear some little buzzing noise when I run the cpu/ram intensively, is it normal?
Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated, thx
Kevin

Quote from: sorchu on 02-March-05, 08:31:58
Has anyone got problems with the 3.3v low voltage lead?
No problem but PC Alert4 shows me strange values:
3.18 for 3.3v
5.02 for 5v
N/A for 12v and when I test the 12v with another software like speedfan it shows me 10.1v and even 9.8v
But everything is fine, I don't have any strange behavior or misfunction.
I have a real buzz too, when I play 3D games or when I use my TV tuner. It's certainly a capacitor.
Sorchu, for your sys temp problem, do you remove the HDD cage?

Argh! My MSI Mega 180 keeps turning itself off! Help!

:angryfire:I'm pretty sure it's a heat issue. I checked the temps and when my system reaches 50C it just turns off. I have did everything this link tells me to do- https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=51357&sid=&hilight=mega+180+heat yet I still have issues. I put two fans in front of it and the computer still continues to run hot and shut off once it hit 50C.
My Specs are-athlon xp 3000+,512mb DDR PC2700 PNY ram,80 gig HD,on board graphics card, and a 48x cdrw,dvd.
Please help.

Ok, I had a feeling this was the case. At this stage is there anyone you know that has computer experence ? If so I would suggest this might be the best option as 2 heads can be better than one. However if you don't have someone then sit down with the manual and read it. The manual (the one on the CD) should has a in depth section on the BIOS where it will tell you what each setting does, it should also tell you what you can change. I saying should because my cmputer is the 685 and not the 180 so mine will be different. So read the manual and then reply back.

MSI Mega 180 Suddenly died

Hi!
Last night I was using my MSI Mega 180 as normal, and shut it down after use, and got to bed.
The next day, the machine refused to boot. When I pressed the power-on-button the pc the fan went round once then stopped and it didnt boot.
The HIFI-mode and clock still works, but dosen't start the PC at all. I tried to connect a normal ATX power supply to the machine, and everything was working again (except hifi-mode of course)
Can anybody explain this ? Is the quality of the PSU THAT bad ?
I am VERY dissappointed. I guess i have no warranty, as I have reversed the CPU fans (and some other modifications, like removing the unused HDD-tray).
Where can I get a replacement PSU ? Is it worth it, or should I stay with my "external" ATX 350W (And much cooler and less noise than the orginal MSI MEGA 180 PSU)
The only downsides with the external PSU is :
1. I have no Linux webserver no more (Took the PSU from there)
2. No Hifi-mode or clock
3. Dosen't look as good as the original.

I think all mega 180 units comes with 2 years manufacturers guarantee...
even if it's over 2 years, i have seen someone in this forum said that the psu from msi is only 35 quids?
I think you should try resetting your bios by jumper to see if that works

Fanless external watercooling into Mega 180 ??

yep, yep,
This Mega 180 pc keeps us busy, however in general I am pretty satisfied, especially the sound and the looks are great...
Although the temps are a little bit worrying me, yesterday I was hitting the 71 degrees Celsius (CPU) !!
Searching for some solutions I have seen some tips & tricks in this forum to keep the temps down, but most of them include rebuilding the pc or a part of it. And actually I am not familiair with these kind of actions and affraid of destroying some parts, so I was wondering about another possible solution.
Than I noticed the Zalman Reserator, this is a fanless external water cooling system, so no noise. Looks interesting...only the question is could the water block with the silicon tube possibly fit into the Mega 180 ???
Please check yourself and give me some usefull feedback if you have any...
http://test.zalman.co.kr/english/product/Reserator1.htm
.

I believe you need a lot bigger PSU if a peltier is used.
As anakin14 says its a bit risky with water but nowadays when the cooling system is fabricated the risk are less than before in the old days when you use a Chevrolet radiator outside and a garden hose in the computer.
Interesting thing that Zalman stuff you've linked...........hmm

MEGA 180 just died with a PEEP PEEP PEEEP!

hi. i have the following components:
MEGA 180
point of view geforce4 ti4200 128mb
512mb 133mhz ddr
amd athlon xp 2800+ barton
maxtor diamondplus 9 120gb
40 minutes ago i tried to overclock my memory more than i had before. before my system was overclocked to 177mhz fsb, 12,5 multipler (~2200mhz CPU) and with a FSB:DRAM ratio 5:4 i had a 141mhz memory. i tried to put the DRAM ratio at 6:5 (147mhz memory) but i got no picture. so i reset the bios and booted the computer in the OC values that worked before. 20 minutes later i want to reboot my computer and when i rebooted it it did not give any picture and did just say PEEP PEEP PEEP all the time. i have tried to reset the bios, change the memory slot on the memory and removed the power cord. nothing has worked.

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PEEP PEEP PEEP = memory failure
is there any secret place in MSI web where these beeps are defined? Or perhaps it's common for all Award®-based BIOS-es?
I believe Stu has a special relation with memory, he can sniff bad memory from miles away
http://bioscentral.com/beepcodes/awardbeep.htm
Beeps
Error Message
Description
1long, 2 short Video adapter error Either video adapter is bad or is not seated properly. Also, check to ensure the monitor cable is connected properly.
Repeating (endless loop) Memory error Check for improperly seated or missing memory.
1long, 3short No video card or bad video RAM Reseat or replace the video card.
High frequency beeeps while running Overheated CPU Check the CPU fan for proper operation. Check the case for proper air flow.
Repeating High/Low CPU Either the CPU is not seated properly or the CPU is damaged. May also be due to excess heat. Check the CPU fan or BIOS settings for proper fan speed.
Ray

Mega 180 VGA Video Out Of Range

Hello all.
I recently received a Mega 180 (used, but not too used). It had an ATI AGP card in it that I pulled out. I then installed Win XP Pro (SP2 and other up to date MS stuff).
It was working fine for a few days ... I have a KVM switch and plugs attached to it, with the VGA cable into the primary VGA slot. Now I can't get any video output. My LCDs (attached to the KVM, and directly to the Mega180) say that "video out of range". I've connected a CRT to it but it's not getting a video signal after the MS XP Pro initial screen.
I've gone into the BIOS and reset it to the "optimal defaults" but no luck there either.
Any help/suggestions would be appreciated.
ESlater

Bass: Are you sure it's the F6 key that allows one to reset to VGA mode? I've gone into CMOS and turned off Quick Boot, but still, everytime I press F6 I just get the Windows options for Safe Mode boot.
I did go into Safe Mode and set my resolution to 800x600 but that still didn't help.
I guess I can always go ahead and re-install the ATI AGP but I was thinking this unit should work with the standard VGA plug. What is weird is that Windows was running fine, and I wasn't really using the machine at all when the video mode got "reset" (or something).
I guess I'll boot into Safe Mode and remove all video drivers and see how that goes?
Otro: I thought that by hooking up the CRT I'd be able to capture all video modes (certainly more than w/the LCD). What's happening is that the CRT is turning "off" once Windows moves beyond the initial screen (presumably to the User Account Login Screen), as if the Mega 180 isn't even sending a signal down the VGA connection.

My MEGA 180 is hotter than a hair dryer :(

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