My mixer is triggering midi keyboard

I'm not sure what changed and what caused this to start happening, but for some reason my mixer is triggering sounds from my keyboard (which has a built in speaker). For example, when I press "Play" or "Stop" or anything else on my mixer, it triggers my keyboard to play a certain note. It's almost like they're are synced in a way which I could actually play the keyboard (poorly) through my mixer. But I don't want this to be happening at all. How can I fix this?

You have probably inadvertently "learned" those messages in the Controller Assignments. Hit cmd-K and delete the messages from the list.

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After re-reading the first post, I don't think it would be quantize, either, sorry about that.
There are a couple more places to look:
Look at the highlights, one is for track, one is for region. Notice how I have it on MIDI thru (top part). That has a delay value. When you select a region, you can have a different value there, as well. Also, the Track part has a place with a delay value. These are three delay values that are in addition to the audio preference Recording delay.

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I do not see the user interface for the Logic software instruments. I can hear them play through my midi keyboard but I cannot see them to adjust parameters. Please advise.

I do not see the user interface for the Logic Pro software instruments. I can hear them play through my midi keyboard but cannot see them to adjust the parameters. Please advise.

Couple of things - you can open the interface for any instrument or plug-in by double-clicking its insert slot on the channel strip. You can configure Logic to automatically open the interface for a plug-in when you first instantiate it in the preferences. Go to Logic Pro > Preferences > Display > Mixer, and check the box for "Open plug-in window on insertion".

Need advice on midi keyboards

I took the plunge into Logic Pro. Overly overwhelming... even with the tutorial.
Anyway, I am progressing. I'm going to need a midi keyboard to fully use this program. Most of my "bass" tracks will come from this.
I am a guitarist, mostly. On a keyboard, I can play some chords and do the very basics.
I'm think that most of the creativity will be coming from the guitar, so how much of a keyboard do I really need? Plus I can probably get very creative with something basic like the M-Audio Keystation 49.
However, I am drawn to the Novation Remote 25 Keyboard. But I look at it and realize that the reason I gave up my digital 12 track in the first place is because all of the knobs and buttons weren't naturally intuitive. And this device has a fair number of knobs and buttons. Plus it looks like it has a recording feature, but why would I need that? Why do I need a lot of the features if I have Logic?
I cannot think of a reason to spend an extra $250 on the Novation, but I'm still leaning that way. Can someone tell me if a guitarist/novice keyboardist has any business with anything other than a very basic keyboard?
Honestly, I'd like to be a little keyboard/synth heavy. I like some of Nine Inch Nails use of synths. The music can be a little on the heavy side, but that's the closest thing synth-wise I'm drawn towards. I also like Beck's use of them as well. Somewhere between Beck and NIN, lol. Now I'm sure they use the finest gear on the planet, but I wonder with Logic's capabilities if I wasn't able to do comparable work with a simple M-Audio Keystation.
Those are the two I've whittled it down to: Novation 25 and M-Audio 49
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Price is a factor. I can afford the $350 for the Novation Remote 25 Keyboard, but it won't be very comfortable.
What if I just went with the M-Audio and tried it out a while? Then all I'm out is the $105. Or should I just get the more advanced machine now?
Thanks again,
Tom

day,
i purchased an m-audio keystation 88 in a rush. of the sub $500 88 key controllers in the store, it felt the best. before this i was totally pleased with my roland u-20 (except i wanted more keys). i'm a lil' unhappy with something about the keystation, but i haven't pinpointed it yet. perhaps, i'm not used to a semi-weighted. perhaps, the keys are a lil' loud for what i'm used to, but maybe this is normal in a semi-weighted.
my 1 cent.
but then again, 88 keys, bare minimum footprint, $200. (& in the store, it felt better than m-audio's $500 88 key many faders option.) having some extra keys, besides the ones you're using to play in sounds can be useful for triggering things, or key-switching samples, etc....
The only 88 key that felt better at the West LA store was ~$1300. The Yamahas. Now, those have a nice feel. But, I only need a controller.
it seems that somewhere (on your keyboard, or in a separate unit, you're going to want a few (or many) faders and knobs -- so keep that in mind
btw, i'm a keyboard player -- & picky.
(& if i get my act together, i was planning on selling this 2 month old, barely used m-audio keystation 88.)
(if i've violated a rule by poorly plugging a sale, someone let me know.)

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Hi Capp 543:
I don't really use it any more live, mainly because I use my iPad for reading music and don't want to switch around apps. I'm not part of the company, but I'll try.
IMO the iRig manual is way way too simplistic.
I am attaching some jpeg's of what helped me solve it, though it was tough. If it doesn't open, search Audio Midi Setup help for "sharing midi data over a network". You have to create a wireless session using Audio/Midi setup, OR create an "ad hoc" network using bluetooth if there's no wi-fi (another set of problems...). This may be your issue. There are a few things beyond getting the wireless network appearing that you have to do, that's why I'm suggesting this even though you did it, or a part of it.
In particular:
"Anyone" has to be set as who can connect to me in the lower left of the wireless midi setup screen, and
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In MainStage, you of course need to go to the MainStage #1 Setup screen, drag in sliders, then "learn" them to the LiveRig, which should now be seen when you click "learn" and move a Liverig slider. I have a vague recollection about not seeing iRig in the MainStage #1 top left device window, but then going into the drop-down menu there where the device shoudl be, selecting it, then learning the sliders. Then in the #2 Edit window you assign the sliders etc.
I would suggest first connecting it via midi wires and getting it to work, which will help you decide if a problem is in the wi-fi or somewhere else when you go to connect it up with wi-fi. You'd need the Apple Camera Connection kit adaptor. I myself would alway run it via midi if I'm playing live, too many unknowns with unknown networks.
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Mixing down - lost MIDI tracks

Hi
I have just started using GarageBand over the past couple of months. I have figured out all about locking tracks etc - or so I thought. I can get all the tracks to run fine (real audio and MIDI). The only thing is that when I export to iTunes, a couple of the MIDI tracks can be lost. Why???
It all seems quite random. My MIDI keyboard is connected. And all the tracks are locked for mixing down. (Did I need to have the keyboard connected at the moment when I locked the tracks, maybe?) The funny thing is, on some songs I am hearing all the tracks, MIDI included.
So, baffled...

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Which midi keyboard you suggest to be used with Logic Pro?

I'm thinking of getting a midi keyboard to input notes rather than use my mouse to input it one by one > . < . Any suggestion. People say M-Audio is great? Which model u suggest?

It depends on what you want the keyboard for.
I recently purchased an M-Audio Oxygen 61 and love it. It has 61 keys (obviously...) with a good number of sliders and knobs. Nothing totally fancy, but it has a great feel to it. I think it ran me around $140-150? I could have gone a bit smaller, maybe a 49, for cheaper, but I like not having to switch the octaves when I'm doing work.
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Akai MPK's are very nice, too. The 25 key is cheap enough to no break budget, but with only 25 keys, you may feel lacking. There's a LOT of banks for pads and control memory, so this is a plus. I wasn't very impressed with the pads on it when I used it for a week or so. Personal preference though....
Novation also has an incredibly high reputation, but they're up there in price with the Axiom Pro's. I imagine that goes down to preference as well.
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How do I record 2 MIDI keyboards playing at once in Logic 8?
For example, One keyboard a Piano instrument, and one an Organ Instrument.
I have refered to "Multiplayer recording" in the manual. Having "Auto Demix..." checked allows me to record each keyboard on a different track. When playing back the MIDI recording, one track plays back as piano and one as Organ. That is fine. However, while recording, the sound from both keyboards is of a mix of Organ and Piano. Or, if I select a track, for example, the Piano, both keyboards play as Piano. But will record as separate piano and organ. What am I doing wrong? I would like to hear one keyboard as Piano, and the other as Organ while recording also. Has anyone sucessfully setup something like this?
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One type of object is an "Audio" object, and this can have a variety of types (Audio Track, Audio Instrument, Input, Output, Bus, Aux etc).
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In order to use the multlplayer record feature, you must set the MIDI channel on this Audio Instrument object.
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Hi,
Hit the Caps Lock key.
J.

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SuitcaseRecordings wrote:
Can I use more than one midi keyboard?
In Logic, yes.
I'm curious If I can run more than one midi application, is this possible?
Yes. you have to set up the Midi, pslit it up between the applications. e.g. channels 1-8 to app 1, and channels 9-16 to app 2.
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"My spoon has run dry now..."
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So much for plug and play
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