My MSI Board and ATI Cards

I have been looking into upgrading my Video Card and I am very much looking at one of the higher-end ATI Radeaon cards. But I also hear some complaints concerning my board and the ATI cards, with respect to the AGP slot and the whole 4x/8x issue. Can somone tell me what ATI board, if any, will work with my board with no issues?
Or am I being forced t ostay ith GeForce Boards?
I currently have the 1.80 BIOS for my board.
Thanks

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Official statement from MSI :
KT4 Ultra was tested OK with ATI Radeon 9700 in MSI lab.
Some applications incorrectly detected the card as AGP2x. (refer to [1] knowing that this board only supports AGP4x and AGP8x). ATI addresses this issue here. Other tools like PowerStrip correctly shown AGP8x.
Detail discussions were taken place here. The current workaround is :
* do not install or uninstall any VIA AGP drivers, including those in VIA 4-in-1 drivers.
Thanks to everyone contributed to the KT4 vs Radeon 9700 thread.
We assume Radeon 9700 Pro, 9700, 9500 Pro and 9500 should work flawlessly with KT4 Ultra as virtually no complain report against these products at the moment.
I saw this in the Forum Troubleshooting FAQ. I was Planning on getting a 9700 PRO or later card. Has anynone had any issues with that card?

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MSI mobos and ATI graphics card incompability!

I don´t know how well known this problem is but I´ve seen it on this forum and when googling the internet you can find it!
The issue is that I can´t get my HD5450(Sapphire) to work on my MS-7267 (945GCM5-F V2) mobo! The screen stays blank but the PC boots up and loads Windows.
The HD5450 works fine on other mobos with different PSU´s ranging from 350 - 600 watts, but when trying different PSU´s on the 945GCM5-F V2 it doesn´t seem to help. I´ve also tried different bios settings, I´ve cleared CMOS, I´ve tried both dvi and vga outputs, I´ve disconnected as much as possible from the mobo except from the graphics card and the PSU, but nothing seems to help!
Any ideas , someone?
Tekrar!

Thanks for all replies!
I had this question on the AMD forum (AMD Game » AMD Technology » Radeon Graphics » MSI mobos and ATI graphics card incompability!) and here are some of the replies:
"Well, its a known issue that older chipsets, like even AMD 580X chipset, doesn't work with 5k/6k series cards without a bios update from the manufacturer of the board.
If its not working / posting / no video ect... You need to bug MSI to update the bios on the board to support the newer 5k/6k video cards. It may or may not happen. Several manufacturers have like Asus, and Gigabyte."
"Same problem. 5450, MSI MS-7267 (945GCM5-F V2). Done the same plus updated msi mainboard bios using msi live update 5 etc. Waiting for reply from makers of graphics card and mainboard.
I should add from what I've read in other threads and forums it seems to be an old mainboard problem not just related to the MSI 945GCM5-F V2. Some other manufacturers of mainboards have sent customers bios upgrades to get their cards working.
As for your pci express version question. Well these problems seem to emerge when people have plugged these pci express version 2.1 cards into their pci express 1st generation slots. What exactly the problem is here? Leave that for manufacturers/experts to answer."
"Tek , its hit or miss on the board + chipset combination on if the card will work or not. Sometimes they will work in old boards, Sometimes they will not w/o manufacturerer support.
Its completely random from what I've seen on the forums at the times they were released , when people with old boards were asking why it wasn't working. And what they did to solve it. Most all of them emailed the manufacturer. Some of those said manufactureres provided beta bios back to the customers, some said your out of luck."
Its true, this MSI MS-7267 (945GCM5-F V2) isn´t a new mobo, but when I get the 5450 to work without problem with an even older fujitsu mobo (last bios update long time ago) and a 350 watts PSU I think something´s wrong.
So, a bios upgrade would probably fix it if the manufacturer (in this case MSI) just wanted to!
Tekrar!

Msi kt4v and tv-cards, a no-go ?

Hello ,
I just wanted to share my experience with this board and tv-cards . It seems not one tv card seems to work as it should on this board !??!
This is the conclusion i must come too after having tested several cards off different manufacturers.
radio on these cards does work without a flaw , but whenever tv function is used , screen output is garbled, just impossible to watch.
I wonder where the problem lies :
having had those cards in an kt7a (kt133a chipset) from abit without a problem and also on an msi intel bx mobo without probs,
i can only conclude its the freaking mobo witch does something wrong, might it be the VIA kt400 ???
it is not os related since all pc have same os = Win XP.
APIC doesnt make a difference and it shouldn't as apic is a part of pci 2.1 standard (so is acpi). after trying every possible permutation of pci card / slot configuration nothing helps.
Can someone research this further ?
whenever cpu usage goes up to full i even had some more garbled pics where something was vissible : this is very strange, de cpu seems to send out high frequencies that mess up the system somewhere.
sys specs :
MSI KT4V version 1
bios 1.8
XP 2500+
512Meg 333 DDR 1 stick
enermax 460Watt PSU (430 true watts)
GeForce 3 Ti200 hercules
SB audigy
RTL 8139 nic (el cheapo)
2 * seagate barracuda IV 40 gig
cdrw plextor
dvd pioneer
tested cards : hauppauge wintv series and aver tvphone series
greetings

hi maesus,
all those options have already been tried and nothing really does any affect accept when i ennabled cpu halt detection: it got even worse, i never used that option to start with
changing pci latency did nothing and i keep it at lowest possible therefore.
delay transaction enabled did nothing and i keep it dissabled since i have no problem with the audigy installed, the sound is perfect. also tried combinations of these settings.
i also can't seem to get 256Meg AGP aperture size to be recognized when set in bios to 256 all possible programs return a size of 128 ?
i also tried diferent winxp kernels : acpi uniproccesor (with apic) , advanced configuratio..... kernel, standard pc kernel. no differences whatsoever. everything works as it should witch is in fact great , except the darned tv-cards, that is to say, their picture is messed up.
i wish i could try it on an nforce2 board
greetings

MSI board and card but.....

I can only run the card in 1x,2x mode. When I put it on 4x it frezes most times right after launch have a K7 Master (6341) and an MSI G3 Ti200

......the funny thing is, I just bought a new MB. I got the msi kt4v. I Thought I had fried my other one so in haste I bought the new one. I have since got my old one working even better then before ( floppy was screwed up, just started working after all the other stuff I did...heh)save for the agp thing. Thats same as it was.
But, now I dont really wanna mess with takin my cpu out again. I lost 4 degrees on my cpu this last week when I reseated the HS. (I spent a lot of time making sure it was done right). And it already runs REALLY HOT> *68 to 73C*. So I really wanna figure this out.
I didnt have any games that really required more of my system but that has changed and its a bit hard to accept that I cant run an MSI GPU with an MSI MB.
They were both decent gear around the same time I purchased them, so it seems they should be compatable.
The local pro shop states *we have never heard of an MSI card not working with an MSI board* but I didnt bother to have them check it out when it was under warranty so they would rape me if I took it to them. NAd this post is so wordy cause Im at work and bored to death....
shall I go on?

CS5 cannot support nVidia and ATI cards in same machine?

Until recently, I was operating fine with a Radeon HD 5750 on dual monitors. I wanted to add and utilize a third monitor (had some trouble with the DisplayPort output), so I just stuck in an off the shelf nVidia 8400 card.
With the latest drivers on both, and both using OpenGL 3.2, CS5 seems to just freak out. (The issue seems to be OpenGL centric.)
Photoshop x86 just crashes while loading.
Photoshop x64 will load, but it immediately reports that my cards do not support OpenGL acceleration and disables it. It otherwise seems to work fine.
After Effects will sort of run, but some strange things crash while it's loading (like gpu_sniffer.exe). It crashes all the time during RAM previews, now, and the option to accelerate the GUI (or previews) with OpenGL is disabled. So, while it's use-able, it's slow.
Premiere Pro absolutely refuses to start. I cannot even get a splash screen.
(The other apps I do not use much.)
I've gone back to dual monitor for now on the Radeon card (problems resolved with disabling the nVidia card), but do the CS5 apps really have that much trouble with two video cards with different chipsets? Is there something I am forgetting to do? I am not asking any of the apps to utilize the third monitor, so I cannot fathom what the issue is. Again, the OpenGL version is the same on both cards...and both cards have the latest drivers (both from November).
I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction or let me know what I should do to enable the nVidia card to peacefully co-exist and still be able to use OpenGL with the CS5 apps.
Thanks for your help.
Machine specs:
* P43-based ASUS motherboard
* Intel Core2Quad (each core at 2.8Ghz)
* Windows 7 Professional (64-bit)
* 16 GB DDR3 RAM
* ATI Radeon HD 5750 (1GB)
* nVidia 8400 GS (512MB)
* CS5 Master Collection

It's not that the apps don't support mixed cards - but that the OpenGL drivers for the cards do not work well together.
Even mixing different models of cards from the same vendor can run into problems when using OpenGL.
Some apps have made mixed cards work - by using one GPU and completely ignoring the rest.
We've talked to the GPU vendors to see about improving the situation, but, well, they're competitors.

Snow Leopard and ATI cards

I have a 800 MHz RAM bus mac pro (a 2008 model). It shipped with an ATI Radeon 2600XT graphics card (and OSX Leopard 10.5). I then upgraded to a SECOND graphics card which is the NVIDIA 8800GT. With Leopard OS the two cards played nicely together.
However, after upgrading to 10.6 the ATI card no longer works properly.
booting 10.6 in 64 bit kernel (the default) with the ATI card installed is un-successful (with the ATI card in the machine, it WILL NOT BOOT.)
My suspicion is that the ATI firmware does not support the 64bit kernel because when I boot the mac pro in 32 bit kernel mode the machine boots and the ATI card is recognized (displayed in system profiler: BUT DOES NOT OUTPUT VIDEO!) When reverting and booting from 10.5 (anyway a 32bit kernel system) the machine boots EXTREMELY SLOW and the ATI card is visible BUT NOT USABLE. When shutting down the computer (in verbose mode) I get about 12 screens of ATI debugging codes before the machine powers off (this all flies by very very quickly).
I see on the apple support downloads an updater called:
ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT Firmware Update
HOWEVER, the installer will not let me install this update even when I do get my machine booted in Leopard with the card installed, because it tells me I need the Leopard Graphics Update (it's a 10.5.8 system...) ***?
when i completely remove the NVIDIA card from the computer and attempt to ONLY use the ATI card, nothing works. NADA.
Is my only chance to get 4 video outputs from this machine to buy a second 8800GT?
I know that the ATI card is not fried, but that there is a driver or firmware problem. how can I fix this issue? thanks in advance,
|K<

ATI 2600XT is an iffy card.
Early shipped models of that card had a firmware update, newer cards were 'fixed' and didn't need the firmware update. Firmware only seemed to make its fans run more and be louder and was annoying.
A lot of things happened with 10.6.4 and graphics. Even video out issue. Some have downgraded to 10.6.3.
There are 4 other options also:
GT120 is cheap and fine
8800GT is EOL and ebay only, and look for "2nd generation Apple Mac Pro"
ATI 4870 or wait to see if Apple comes out with 5800s
Nvidia GTX 285 ($450)
Some cards require 2 power connectors, the GT120 does not need any.
Wait for 10.6.5+ or downgrade to 10.6.3 and see how that works
Mac Pro 2008 required an EFI on graphics cards to work with the UEFI/EFI64 so I am unsure that the card or its BIOS is an issue... but haven't seen much of that.
10.5.2 era there was a Leopard Graphics 1.0 update that was rolled into 10.5.3.
I'd ditch and get the GT120 or wait and see if GT3xx.

SOS !! SOS !!Will the Alpha PAL8150T Heatsink work for the MSI board and How reliable is this board?

Aviator45 had a problem with his ALpha Pal 8150T Heatsink with his board:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=52030&sid=&hilight=alpha
I ordered the HS already and now it is starting to worry me. Maybe aviator can tell me if his install went well.
Anywaz...the MSI K8N NEO is the only board available in Toronto, Canada and I need to build my A64 system soon. Seeing so many quirks and complaints on the forum, it is beggining to scare me. Maybe some of u guys can convince me.
Finally, will this MSI board work with the Corsair XMS 2.2.2.5 RAM?
thanks alot!

Check out their website first, then try http://www.newegg.com

MSI KT4V and radeon card compatibility.

hi guys...first of all, sorry about bad english, i'm from germany.
well, the point is, i actually have a MSI KT4V mother board installed in mi pc, and i planed to buy a Radeon 9800 pro graphic card, i have 2 options...buy the BBA (build by ati)..or the sapphire one, i want to know if i will have any trouble of compatibility with both of this cards. Just that, please i'm waiting for your's answers guys

Codegen don't perform as well as you might think. The info I ask for should be on a sticker on the PSU, inside the case. But I'll help you, since I've been there before.
As you see below, there is not much room for a Radeon9800:
"Codegen 400W Pentium 4 ATX Switching Dual Fan Power Supply, Retail Package
Output:400W
+3.3V -> 14A Orange
+5.0V -> 30A Red
+12V -> 12A Yellow
+5VSB -> 2A Purple
-5V -> 0.5A White
-12V -> 0.8A Blue "
The info comes from:
http://www.dealsonic.com/co40pe4atxsw.html

Troubles with MSI 645E and ATI FireGL 8700

Hi, I've just bought an ATI Fire GL 8700 graphic card for my PC based on a MSI 645E Max Mother Board.
The trouble is that the MB doesn't recognise the graphic card, infact the system crashes just before the boot ;( ;( ;(
Can someone tell me if this trouble is known?
Thanx
Andrea
p.s.
when i turn the PC on the cooling fan of the graphic card doesn't start...... ;( ;( ;(

I've tried to disconnect all the devices connected to the MB: second HD, HD cooling fans, CD-ROM and DVD Writer but the situation doesn't change at all.
Do you think that disconnecting this devices the power supply should be enough?

Problem with MSI Board and MSI Geforce 4 with Windows XP

I have a MSI 845E Max(MS-6566E)
MSI Geforce 4 - 420
Celeron 1.7 gig
Soundblaster Live
2 Network Cards
and the usual stuff.
I have loaded Windows 98 on my system and it works fine. But then I load Windows XP on and the system starts rebooting. After it reboots my video resets itself and I have to load it back in. I will then reboot and sometimes it will work, sometimes it will not. I try playing a game or even searching the net for awhile, but out of the blue the system will give a very quick blue screen and reboot. And of course when it boots up the video is reset. I loaded all the drivers I could find on MSI's website and used every video driver made by Nvidia and MSI. If I do a Windows XP update to my system the computer will not even boot up. it will just keep rebooting when it is trying to bring up the login screen. Anyone else run into this with Windows XP?

My system sometime freezes. Why ???
P4 1.8A GHz Notrtwood, 256MB PC2700, MSI Geforce 4 TI4400, SB Live 1024
Check my logs:
1)
// Watchdog Event Log File
LogType: Watchdog
Created: 2002-07-23 20:03:27
TimeZone: -60 - Central Europe Standard Time
WindowsVersion: XP
EventType: 0xEA - Thread Stuck in Device Driver
// The driver for the display device got stuck in an infinite loop. This
// usually indicates a problem with the device itself or with the device
// driver programming the hardware incorrectly. Please check with your
// display device vendor for any driver updates.
ShutdownCount: 108
Shutdown: 0
EventFlag: 1
EventCount: 1
BreakCount: 1
BugcheckTriggered: 1
DebuggerNotPresent: 1
DriverName: nv4_disp
DeviceClass: Display
DeviceDescription: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400
HardwareID: PCIVEN_10DE&DEV_0251&SUBSYS_87111462&REV_A3
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
DriverFixedFileInfo: FEEF04BD 00010000 0006000D 000A0BD6 0006000D 000A0BD6 0000003F 00000008 00040004 00000003 00000004 00000000 00000000
DriverCompanyName: NVIDIA Corporation
DriverFileDescription: NVIDIA Compatible Windows 2000 Display driver, Version 30.30
DriverFileVersion: 6.13.10.3030
DriverInternalName: nv_disp.dll
DriverLegalCopyright: (c) NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.
DriverOriginalFilename: nv_disp.dll
DriverProductName: NVIDIA Compatible Windows 2000 Display driver, Version 30.30
DriverProductVersion: 6.13.10.3030
2)
// Watchdog Event Log File
LogType: Watchdog
Created: 2002-08-12 18:53:23
TimeZone: -60 - Central Europe Standard Time
WindowsVersion: XP
EventType: 0xEA - Thread Stuck in Device Driver
// The driver for the display device got stuck in an infinite loop. This
// usually indicates a problem with the device itself or with the device
// driver programming the hardware incorrectly. Please check with your
// display device vendor for any driver updates.
ShutdownCount: 235
Shutdown: 0
EventCount: 8
BreakCount: 8
BugcheckTriggered: 1
DebuggerNotPresent: 1
DriverName: nv4_disp
EventFlag: 1
DeviceClass: Display
DeviceDescription: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400
HardwareID: PCIVEN_10DE&DEV_0251&SUBSYS_87111462&REV_A3
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
DriverFixedFileInfo: FEEF04BD 00010000 0006000D 000A0C0A 0006000D 000A0C0A 0000003F 00000008 00040004 00000003 00000004 00000000 00000000
DriverCompanyName: NVIDIA Corporation
DriverFileDescription: NVIDIA Compatible Windows 2000 Display driver, Version 30.82
DriverFileVersion: 6.13.10.3082
DriverInternalName: nv_disp.dll
DriverLegalCopyright: (c) NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.
DriverOriginalFilename: nv_disp.dll
DriverProductName: NVIDIA Compatible Windows 2000 Display driver, Version 30.82
DriverProductVersion: 6.13.10.3082
3)
// Watchdog Event Log File
LogType: Watchdog
Created: 2002-09-07 22:22:41
TimeZone: -60 - Central Europe Standard Time
WindowsVersion: XP
EventType: 0xEA - Thread Stuck in Device Driver
// The driver for the display device got stuck in an infinite loop. This
// usually indicates a problem with the device itself or with the device
// driver programming the hardware incorrectly. Please check with your
// display device vendor for any driver updates.
ShutdownCount: 408
Shutdown: 0
EventCount: 14
BreakCount: 14
BugcheckTriggered: 1
DebuggerNotPresent: 1
DriverName: nv4_disp
EventFlag: 1
DeviceClass: Display
DeviceDescription: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400
HardwareID: PCIVEN_10DE&DEV_0251&SUBSYS_87111462&REV_A3
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
DriverFixedFileInfo: FEEF04BD 00010000 0006000D 000A0FC9 0006000D 000A0FC9 0000003F 00000008 00040004 00000003 00000004 00000000 00000000
DriverCompanyName: NVIDIA Corporation
DriverFileDescription: NVIDIA Compatible Windows 2000 Display driver, Version 40.41
DriverFileVersion: 6.13.10.4041
DriverInternalName: nv_disp.dll
DriverLegalCopyright: (C) NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.
DriverOriginalFilename: nv_disp.dll
DriverProductName: NVIDIA Compatible Windows 2000 Display driver, Version 40.41
DriverProductVersion: 6.13.10.4041

ATI and Nvidia cards together?

Is it possible to run an Nvidia card with an ATI card simultaneously? I have a 2007 mac pro with the stock 7300gt. I need another graphics card for a third monitor and would like to purchase the new ATI 3870. Does anyone here have an Nvidia and ATI card running together? Are there any issues? Thanks.

Hi Ashuta,
With respect, I think you confused it. I replied to dualrecto's question. As I didn't want to assume what he meant, I took the opportunity to answer to it in relation to both OS X and Windows. His question concerned the 7300 and the 3870, not the latter and 8800.
I haven't seen any info that the 8800 and the 3870 could run together in OS X. However, as was written in the Macnn post that I linked to in the second of the two Apple Discussions links you included, the "no-mixing of video card rule" apparently doesn't apply to the newer Mac Pros. Since the ATi 2600 and the nVidia 7300 work simultaneously under OS X perhaps the 8800 and the 3870 will also work under OS X (and saying that, perhaps it will be possible to run also the combo dualrecto is seeking).
Whether you should switch to the 3870: I guess it depends on what you want to use the cards for. The 8800 is superior in 3D rendering provided the application can take advantage of it's OpenGL functions. Which is why it does well as a gaming card. If not, it seems the 3870 is a better bet: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/ATI3870_Mac_PC_review/radeonhd3870review.html.
Good luck!
/p

Multiple Issues with the MSI board...

This is my first experience with the MSI board and so far its not very smooth... I have this MSI NEO 2 standard board My specs are
P4 2.8C
256 MB (single module) DDR 400 RAM. (TWIN MOS)
Geforce Ti4200..
80 GB Maxtor SATA
FAX
CD-ROM
WIth WINDOWS XP HOME Edition..
i have done no overclocking and the problems are..
1. First of all it takes lot of time to show the first screen... like the vga card screen comes after 4 seconds.
2. Some time i press the power button and when the system is detecting the hard disk and CDROM it gives error message like DRAM timings are too tight. i have check the BIOS setting and everything is normal and there is no overclocking and RAM is rated to run at 400 MHz.. although not a great brand but not a bad one either..
3. Sometime just before loading the operating system it gives an error message that No boot sector found.. insert a Bootable floppy or CDROM.. and when i restart it start going on as usual..
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Originally posted by Eddio1
I've been reading the posts here for about a week and I decided to finally ask for some assistance. Just picked up the MSI 865PE Neo2-V from BZBOYZ.COM and 1Gb generic matched Elixir 512's and I've tried dozens of bios settings as posted here. I was finally able to install 2003 ent. server and if I'm lucky, it will get past the 2003 splash screen to a login screen, I'll log in, then put it to work (you know browse some heavily populated folders) it freezes and a reset is necessary. Now, I cant even get past the splash screen. I must have booted 200 times with every bios combination and I'm tired of doing fresh installs and experiencing the same system freeze issues. I've been in the IT business and built dozens of boxes in the past and never had such problems (using bios failsafe defaults no less!) getting an OS to install and run in a reasonably stable fashion. Mobos these days are extremely frustrating! I'm going to pick up some Corsair twinx RAM and hopefully this will resolve. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated in advance of more waiting and RMAing the RAM I have for some Corsair. Do you think I'm on the right track because I'm gonna be really pissed if new RAM doesn't do the trick.
Bios settings:
Bus mastering enabled
Configured RAM manually in bios 3-4-4-7-8 (tried PSD to no avail)
Disabled dynamic o/c
Disabled spread spectrum
Normal speed
HT enabled
All other settings bios setup defaults
MoBO specs:
MSI 865PE Neo2-V latest bios: Version 5.4 Update date 2004-7-5
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=612
P4 3.2 Prescott
400 FSB
1Gb Elixir PC3200 RAM (I suspect this cheap RAM is the issue)
Memtest says it runs at 3-3-3-8
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Native for SATA/ATA
PS-Enermax EG365P-VE FCA-3.3V-32A, +5-32A, +12-26A
ATI Radeon 8500 64MB
Seagate SCSI Cheetah-36Gb 15K 160Mb/s
Seagate SCSI Barracuda-73Gb 10K 160Mb/s
Adaptec 29160N
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HI check my previous thread, entitled problem after udate of xp, or look for threads with name on Sounds like a similar problem.

Antec Sonata 380W PS enough for MSI Neo and A64???

I'm looking at picking up the MSI board and an A64 3000 for my Antec Sonata case.
My question is that I see a lot of problems not posting as the PS is not enough.
Does anyone know whether or not the Antec 380W PS will be enough? I will be using 2HDD, a DVD writer, a CD rom drive, and an ATI 9800 pro.
The specs on the PS are:
+5V 35A
-5V .5A
+12V 18A
-12V 1A
+3.3V 28A
max output 360 watts
TIA

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Originally posted by Cozman
no im not dishing anyone .. just wish ppl wouldnt just jump on the psu bandwagon because everyone else does ... if a system needed 25A then it should be MSI's job to make sure its advertised as such ... they make no mention of abnormal power requirements so THEY should be testing and saying what will or will not work ok .. so anyone with MSI contacts please ask them to test and recommend what is or isnt needed
Actually MSI does do some testing
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_trp_detail.php?UID=496&NAME=MS-6702

Ati card, msi board, kingston ram, blank screen at reboot.

i see an awful lot of listings in this forum for the problem of screen remaining blank after reboot.
i also see the psu being blamed and yet it has almost never solved the issue for people.
there is a problem and there is no solution right?
all my components are fine, they are up to 'spec' yet they dont work, why?
i am fed up with opening my pc to tweak it, reset cmos, unplug drives, check power supply. at this rate i am going to fry something. you cant keep doing these things without f'ing something up, its messing with probabilities. a half dozen times? fine. dozens? youre screwed.
there is something going on with the mb. i see others claim all boards with that chipset have issues. so what? it is still an MSI issue since i have an MSI board.
i set everything up according to instructions and i am screwed. MSI lied to me and to you.
the board does not run as it claims. i can not run a chip at its normal speed with a graphics card it should. again why? nothing is oc'd, all temps are norma, even with noting but mb, vid card and ram, its screwed.
go ahead and blame my temps, blame my psu, blame ati but at the end i have an MSI board that does not perform as sold.
i also see a lot of mention of previos bios versions working better. again seems like MSI is screwing around with us. i have so many spare parts from trying to get this board to run well that i can build another pc. it will NOT be MSI.

Same thread in the bios section already so this one is closed.

[rs480M2-IL] MSI, Please Include Surround view support for NON ATI cards

As stated in the topic, don't see why it cannot be done, besides an ATI marketting tool to increase sales of their own cards.
the on board gfx and additional PCI-E card should be operating independently of each other, why restrict us to using ATI cards ?
thank you .

As stated in the Forum Rules we are not MSI. We are users helping users. All requests like that need to be directed towards MSI in the email listed in the link I gave you.
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