My pictures went blank (out of memory?)

I was gettinginto a project and was told by an ae message that I was running out of memory. Now most of my imported imeges are white. thank goodness the properties and animations I set are still there (I can see the frames). How do I get the images back without getting more memory. Can I proxy them all? I tried using half and third resolution but that didnt work. I am guessing the answer will be to cut up th eproject in pieces but any suggestions that will help me avoid that would be great!

dansch37 wrote:
it was a blessing in disguise because I cleaned up the document very well to troubleshoot.
Hehe, yes, sometimes we all have to be reminded "to bring out the garbage" Glad it worked out and was in fact so simple to fix.
Mylenium

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    Kamran and Vincent,
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    but the env mgr won't, and therefore
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    Vincent,
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    Forte. We were having this problem when we started to add more people
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    recognized this problem as a bug in Forte 2.0. The problem was that a
    lot of people had the "same node name" in their control panel. We have
    1200 deployed clients and about 600 concurrent users. The users are
    setup to run iscript every morning when they turn their 95 machine on to
    down load the lates version of the application. This caused the node
    manager to go crazy and finally seg-v. When we went to each and every
    client(this was when we had about 300 client installed) the node manage
    stop crashing. Tech support said this has been fixed in 3.0. We still
    have this problem because some client still have the same node name but
    we make sure the -fm flag is high(about x = 300000). With the high
    memory setting the environment have stop comming down every morning and
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    From: [email protected][SMTP:[email protected]]
    Sent: Monday, June 01, 1998 9:59 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: EnvMgr out of memory
    Hello all,
    Has anyone experienced their EnvMgr dying due to
    an out of memory ?
    If yes, do you have any clue about what is eating the
    most the EnvMgr memory :
    - Number of registered partitions ? (server and client)
    - Number of simultaneous queries to the Name Server ?
    - Number of applications having been installed/uninstalled since
    the
    EnvMgr was started ?
    Also, what x= did you have to put for the EnvMgr memory flags ?
    Although we increased the Memory settings, we are still running
    into this problem once in a while in our production environment
    (Forte 2.0H1).
    Thanks to all,
    Vincent Figari
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    Thank you for the light you threw on this,
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    Vincent Figari
    On Mon, 01 Jun 1998 15:58:09 -0700 John Jamison <[email protected]>
    writes:
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    Kamran and Vincent,
    The key is actually what node the application distribution is on,
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    you since
    later I reference this as part of a theoretical solution.
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    environment
    manager. Resources are consumed both for (a) cycling through
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    apps
    and checking versions, and (b) causing the file uploads of newly
    deployed apps
    to those clients. Turns out that (b) is more of a load on the
    "distribution
    server" (e.g. env mgr in your case). In order to copy the partition
    files (which can be substantial), the env mgr needs to allocate
    buffers,
    read the application partition
    files into those buffers, pass those buffers back to ISCRIPT (client)
    which then
    writes them out. Lets say your client partition is 5MB and 400 people
    hit the
    env mgr at the same time for a deployment. Thats 400 * 5MB of dynamic
    memory
    required. Granted they won't all happen at the same time, but you
    get
    the picture.
    What is really required in this case to handle the scalability
    requirement is a queueing mechanism whereby the env mgr only processes
    N
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    at a time, and holds off on the rest of them until they are done.
    Mostly for this reason we have implemented a WAN based application
    deployment mechanism which uses FTP instead of envmgr. In this way
    the
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    with the huge memory assignment. Put your application distributions
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    started
    in the AM and shut down during some other time period. Perhaps this
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    to a node mgr that can fail and not cause havok. This is all theory
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    the way. So your env mgr runs with the usual env mgr assigned, but a
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    application distributions from the envmgr $FORTE_ROOT/appdist/... tree
    to this new tree, and use this virtual "node" for subsequent
    distributions.
    Then monitor the processes (both env mgr and this new nodemgr) during
    the mass ISCRIPT. If my theory holds, then the nodemgr will get busy
    but the env mgr won't, and therefore
    your environment will continue to stay up. At least half your
    problems
    go away, anyway.
    Kamran Amin wrote:
    Vincent,
    We are having the same problem at Oxford and using the same version of
    Forte. We were having this problem when we started to add more people
    to our environment. We talked it over with Tech support and they had
    recognized this problem as a bug in Forte 2.0. The problem was that a
    lot of people had the "same node name" in their control panel. We have
    1200 deployed clients and about 600 concurrent users. The users are
    setup to run iscript every morning when they turn their 95 machine on to
    down load the lates version of the application. This caused the node
    manager to go crazy and finally seg-v. When we went to each and every
    client(this was when we had about 300 client installed) the node manage
    stop crashing. Tech support said this has been fixed in 3.0. We still
    have this problem because some client still have the same node name but
    we make sure the -fm flag is high(about x = 300000). With the high
    memory setting the environment have stop comming down every morning and
    only come down when we install a new verson of the application. I think
    they have fixed this problem in a later version if 2.0H?? but can not
    confirm this. I have been talking with my sales rep to find out if this
    is true.
    Some Stats:
    Number of client deployed: 1200 to 1300
    Number of concurrent users: about 600
    Number of application in the environment: two
    Number of environments: 8(four main and four for failover)
    Number of Box: two IBM RS600 with 1 gig of memory and 4 CPU each.
    Memory setting on the Environment: -fm (x=300000)
    Hope this helps
    ka
    From: [email protected][SMTP:[email protected]]
    Sent: Monday, June 01, 1998 9:59 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: EnvMgr out of memory
    Hello all,
    Has anyone experienced their EnvMgr dying due to
    an out of memory ?
    If yes, do you have any clue about what is eating the
    most the EnvMgr memory :
    - Number of registered partitions ? (server and client)
    - Number of simultaneous queries to the Name Server ?
    - Number of applications having been installed/uninstalled since
    the
    EnvMgr was started ?
    Also, what x= did you have to put for the EnvMgr memory flags ?
    Although we increased the Memory settings, we are still running
    into this problem once in a while in our production environment
    (Forte 2.0H1).
    Thanks to all,
    Vincent Figari
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  • What the **** is OUT OF MEMORY !!!

    We started a session everything is going well and just when i insert a plug-in on the master
    the freaking Logic paused and gave me "WARNING" out of memory
    the it says the plug-in could not be inserted or deleted, thats it CRASH
    we lost a good session
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    i got people sitting looking at me like i wasted my money on logic and mac
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    hi stash, yes i've had the same problem - just another bug, i suppose.
    here's another one - "memory too tight for drawing". generally occurs in matrix of score editors.
    man, i would - and i've been working in sydney as a musician/studio owner since 1965 -
    NEVER TRUST a critical session to a buggy piece of software like logic is now.
    whenever i do a vocal session i boot to os9 and use protools(with apogee in/outs). i simply do a rough mix of the track and port 'er in. logic is too unreliable - especially when people pay you money.
    motu software is starting to LOOOK GOOOOD!!!!!
    most of the gear we're buying is pro-sumer, not pro-fessional. it has a known shelf life. i still have really excellent stuff from my analog studio days which just KEEPS ON WORKIN'. my tannoys are 29 years young. my power amp has NEVER NEEDED A SERVICE in 20years.
    as a comparison, since i went "digital" (DAWs), in 2000, i've had to pay out for a new logic board for the mac, been thru three cd/dvd burners, two monitors
    2 external drives,one scsi card and two drives, 2 apple mice, never mind the dud blank media, etc. etc.
    i know a lot of tech people in sydney and i take their advice seriously, and their opinions generally reinforce my own - digital gear ain't RUGGED enough.
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    From: John Jamison[SMTP:[email protected]]
    Sent: Monday, June 01, 1998 6:58 PM
    To: Kamran Amin
    Cc: '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'
    Subject: Re: EnvMgr out of memory
    <<File: vcard.vcf>>
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    Number of application in the environment: two
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    From: [email protected][SMTP:[email protected]]
    Sent: Monday, June 01, 1998 9:59 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: EnvMgr out of memory
    Hello all,
    Has anyone experienced their EnvMgr dying due to
    an out of memory ?
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    most the EnvMgr memory :
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    Although we increased the Memory settings, we are still running
    into this problem once in a while in our production environment
    (Forte 2.0H1).
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    Vincent Figari
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