My Procedure for Camera Profile Betas (1&2) & Presets

I went ahead and installed the Beta 2 profiles without deleting Beta 1. I had presets called:
1. Adobe standard
2. Canon standard
3. Landscape, etc
4. all the others
The preset folder name is appropriately: Profile
I just updated the Beta 1 presets with the Beta 2 presets by right-clicking the original preset and selecting update with current settings. The only current setting I had selected was camera calibration with the Beta needed for the preset.
Now, when I select a preset the new Beta 2 presets are used. I still have available the Beta 1 presets by going to the camera calibration panel.
Hope this helps because I've seen a lot of questions about deleting the old beta 1 etc.

There was no need to install the beta profiles as LR 2.7 comes with its own set of final profiles, so you could get rid of the beta versions.
If you're on a Mac they're located at Library > Application Support > Adobe > CameraRaw > CameraProfiles
In there you should only have two folders labelled "Adobe Standard" and "Camera".
LR automatically recognizes your camera, so all the choices you see in the drop-down menu only apply to that particular model. Besides the Adobe Standard profile you will find other choices that resemble the camera manufacturers' rendering styles for certain camera models. It looks though as if the E-520 is not supported, so you might only see ACR x.x.

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Time frame for Camera Profile Beta?

What might be Adobe's thinking in terms of releasing a final version of the new Camera Profiles? Not as idle a question as it might seem. It sounds like many LR users have added a new profile as an automatic Import choice; and as the weeks go by, significant numbers of photos must have been given one of these excellent developments as a starting point for further tweaking.
As the profiles are in public beta, and Adobe Labs state they want user import before finalizing the release; it is germane to ask to what degree does Adobe plan - or indeed need to plan - to provide compatibility between a series of profiles that might be subject to further modification, and those applied during the interim (beta) period? And also how long that interim period is likely to last?

The beta profiles will never just disappear. When we do release the final profiles, they will be installed such that both profiles appear in the calibration popup. The beta profiles will only go away if you manually delete them.
If the user choses to manually delete the beta profiles, Camera Raw/Lightroom will automatically switch any previously adjusted images using the beta profiles to the final profiles with the same base name.

Camera Profiles Beta 2 in LR 2.3

I just downloaded the beta 2 camera profiles from labs.adobe.com. They appeared as advertised in Camera Raw 5.3 but all I get in LR 2.3 under Camera Calibration is Profile: "Embedded"
I did restart the computer but still no luck.
Is there a step I am missing?
Thanks,
Alan
PS I have Vista Ultimate with 4 GB of RAM.

You should not be bothering with the beta profiles as they have been superseded when ACR 5.2 was released.
If you download Camera Raw 5.3 you will find an installer package for the most recent versions of the camera profiles included in the download package.
Mac - http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/thankyou.jsp?ftpID=4364&fileID=4061
Windows - http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/thankyou.jsp?ftpID=4365&fileID=4067
Embedded suggests that the file you're trying to check the profile in is JPEG, TIF or PSD, which don't support the camera profiles. In some situations it may also appear for DNG files, but thse should also show Adobe Standard as a second option.

Camera Profile Beta - will it port?

First, thank you very much to Adobe for creating these new camera profiles per:
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles#Camera_Profiles_and_DNG_Profile_Editor
For the Fuji S5 and Nikon D80 this makes a major difference.
So, here's the question - if I set my pictures to "Adobe Standard beta 2" profile and in a couple months you go out of "beta" and the profile becomes "Adobe Standard", are the pictures I assigned "Adobe Standard beta 2" going to lose their profile or get messed up.
I assume when this becomes production I will remove and reinstall the production version and/or the production one will replace the beta profiles. In which case will the "fixed" naming of profiles cause me problems?
If the answer is yes, will there be a way to find and replace the broken profiles at some future date with the correct production one (I have a very large catalog)???
Thanks in advance!

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:
>
I actually read that before going ahead and deleting the beta 1 profiles.
"Camera Raw 4.6, 5.1 and Lightroom 2.1 will automatically switch to
using the beta 2 profiles instead."
This statement seems rather clear, but when I checked afterwards the
profile selection was empty on *all images* that had the beta 1 profile
assigned before.
What does that mean? Did the automatic switch not work or is this just a
cosmetic glitch?
Cheers Martin

Using colorchecker for camera profile

Created photo then used file menue, export preset, xrite. It worked but I never got a change to select a name. It came up as "profile". What am I missing. Found the profiles but my camera Cannon Rebel 4ti is not listed. Is there an easy way to change or delete these profiles?

This may help. Don't forget to also calibrate your WB with the new profile using the gray patch next to the 100% white patch. I save this as a new Develop preset with only 'White Balance' and 'Calibration' (Camera DNG profile) checked. I found this necessary as the WB was different when using the LR WB presets.
Be careful when renaming camera profiles. Any images already using the profile will revert back to 'Adobe Standard' since it no longer sees the profile with the "old name." Try to use something descriptive like '600D CCPP Sunny.' This will help identify them if you decide to use the Adobe DNG Profile Editor for creating or modifying camera profiles.

"Matrix" is only Camera Profile for 7D in update?

I am using PSE8 and a Canon 7D on Windows 7.
In the original ACR my drop down only offered "Beta" for Camera Profile.
I downloaded 6.2 today which I believe is the newest update for PSE8 and the only option for Camera Profile is "Matrix".
What must I do to get Camera Neutral, Camera Standard, etc?
Thank you!
Jen

twinmommy_jen wrote:
Are there any ideas when there will be an update for PSE users to include the 7D?
For Elements v8? Never...Camera Raw 6.2 is the last version of ACR that will work. You'll need Elements v9 to update ACR further.
But as has been pointed out above, the free DNG converter version 6.4.1 (which is not tied to a Photoshop or Elements version because it's a stand alone app) can install additional DNG Profiles as part of the installer...
The DNG Converter can be used to convert raw files to DNG for cameras that are not supported by previous versions of Camera Raw.

"Embedded" camera profile for .dng file?

Why does Lightroom 5 show "embedded" as an option for camera profile for .dng files created by my pentax k-30? I thought that "embedded" profiles did not apply to .dng files?

A JPG can contain color profile data not just a reference tag containing the name, although other Google results indicate that the APP2 segment is only has 65533 bytes of data and if the profile is too large for that then it is either chunked somehow or written into an XMP segment:
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/javax/imageio/metadata/doc-files/jpeg_metadata.ht ml#color
“If the ColorSpace of the image is based on a non-standard ICC Profile, then that profile is embedded in an APP2 marker segment. If the ColorSpace is not based on a non-standard ICC Profile, but an app2ICC node appears in the metadata, then an APP2 marker segment is written with the appropriate standard profile. Note that the profile must specify an RGB color space, as the file must be JFIF compliant.”
EXIFtool can extract and embed a profile:
http://cpanforum.com/threads/2873

Camera profiles not showing up in Camera Calibration

I would be very happy if someone can help me.
I have lightroom 2.7 + lightroom 3 beta installed + I have downloaded and installed camera profiles beta 2 and DNG profile editor from Adobe Labs.
Despite doing so both versions of lightroom only offer me the option of adobe standard and embedded.
What am I doing wrong?

You are doing nothing wrong. That is the expected behavior. The profile popup menu only shows the profiles for the camera you are using. For the M9 there is the Adobe Standard profile (made by Adobe) and the Embedded profile (made by Leica and embedded by the camera at the time of capture).
Eric

Allow Camera Manufacturers to provide their own Camera "Profile"

I recently bought a Nikon D5000 DSLR and noticed that very often, the jpeg Foto Files created by the camera are ***much*** better rendered than the RAW/NEF Foto Files, as rendered by Lr. This is true both with Lr 2 and with Lr 3.
For this reason, for my Nikon D5000 Photos, I use/edit only very seldom the RAW/NEF Photo files and use/edit most of the time the Jpeg Foto Files. This is somehow a pitty.
It is therefore my impression, that Adobe should allow (and motivate!) the camera manufacturers to provide for Lr (and for Adobe Camera Raw) their own Camera Profiles, which would render RAW Files as well as they (=the camera manufacurer) render their jpeg files.
Such an enhancement would allow me (and other users) to benefit more from the combined use of two excellent products: my excellent camera and the excellent Lr Software. It is my impression that such an enhancement woulde also be benefitial for Camera Manufacturers (e.g. Nikon will be happy to know, that their customers can benefit more from Lr) and would also be benefitial for Adobe (Adobe will be happy to know, that those users who bought a brand-X camera can achieve for their camera with Lr the best RAW rendering).
Adobe could leave it to each camera manufacturer, to decide if they prefer to sell or to give-away their Lr camera profile.
Notice: I am not a Lr expert and do therefore not know how easy or how difficult it will be to provide such an enhancement. But as a non-expert, I have the impression that since it is today possible for a user to define and use his own Lr Presets, it should also be possible to define and use Camera profiles that are not defined by Adobe. ....Perhaps, what I am looking for, could be achieved with some kind of Presets that will be provided by the camera manufacturers.

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ssprengel wrote:
Adobe's point-of-view is to make their RAW engine process RAW files consistently from 100s of cameras.
Each camera manufacturer's point-of-view is to produce in-camera JPGs better than their competitors or at least good enough to turn a profit.
ssprengel, on the above subject too, I fear that you are describing the somehow sad reality.
But, sometimes enlighted managers also spend time to think about and to work on the objectives/point-of-views of ***their users***; this not only for the benefit of their users but indirectly also for the well-understood benefit of their products.
In this particular case, my point of view/objective is to get an excellent RAW rendering for ***my*** particular camera. I guess that this is/will also be the case of a lot of other non-sophisticated Lr users ....and I believe that Lr has (thanks to its excellence) also a very interesting market potential within the segment of non-sophisticated users (who are a little bit like me: neither bloody beginners nor experts).
If (what is very probable), Adobe can not afford to spend a very high amount of time on the RAW rendering for each one of the thousands of different camera models: it would be great if there would be a solution that would allow the camera manufacturers (and/or third parties) to provide "something" (perhaps something new, which is different from todays camera-profiles and from todays Presets) that will allow to render within Lr excellently the RAW File formats of their cameras.
I understand that you will answer me: "please stop to bother us with your day dreams" and I will therefore stop.
Thanks again for the help that you provided.
Sincerely
Robert

Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS50 camera profile

I have a Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS50. I am running Lightroom 5 on a 27” Mac Retina 5k.
I got the Adobe DNG converter so I can load the raw files into Lightroom. The only camera profile available to me in Camera Calibration is Adobe Standard. Will a future Lightroom update include anything for my camera?
In the meantime, can you recommend preset settings that would better match my jpeg color and lighting?

This is a user-to-user forum.
Nobody here can tell you what future plans Adobe has for camera profiles for specific cameras.
You may want to place your thoughts here: http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family

Problem updating 2.1 to 2.2--duplicate camera profiles

I'd installed the Camera Profiles beta 2 in Lightroom 2.1.
Now that I've upgraded to Lightroom 2.2, for every camera profile there is a beta version of it.
For example, there is "Camera Portrait" and "Camera Portrait 2".
Is this normal or a glitch?

Once the beta profiles are removed, any image using them will show a blank name in the Camera Calibration panel.
Adobe should supply a tool to update the profile names from the beta to non-beta.

Camera profiles. /what happens when deleted

Hello.
if you use the camera profiles (beta) that can be downloaded. What happens to photos that used such a profile in develop, if the profile where to be removed.
Like if you need to re-install LR, buy a new computer, an updated profile (non beta. etc etc.
i find the D2X mode3 (set down brightness a little and change green hue a bit) give good match to Capture NX style from my Nikon D50.
/Walker

In the absence of your requested profile for an image, LR will use the first available profile. It's a current UI glitch that causes LR to show the blank Profile popup menu, but in fact it is using a profile specific to your camera (you'd know for sure if it wasn't: colors wouldn't be remotely close).
We plan to provide a smooth migration path for those who want to upgrade from beta profiles to final profiles once they're ready.

Specific camera profile in camera raw

I’ve just started using Lightroom 5 & Photoshop CC in Creative Cloud and understood that there would be a specific profile for my Panasonic GH3 in Camera Raw, that is I expected the programme to suggest default adjustments specifically tuned to the characteristics of my camera. I can’t find this anywhere in the programmes, indeed the only reference to my camera/lens combination is in the metadata and camera Raw seems to work on an Adobe default.
Am I missing something?
Jeff Hodgson

What profile options you have depends on how many profile Adobe ships for camera and how many profiles you save for you camera. The name may seem the same for other models but the are for a particular Camera model. The The Pull-Down profile menu jsy does not display the camera model. If you look in the folder Adobe stores the Camera Profiles you will get an Idea of how many profiles are on your system. I'm on Windows the root folder for Camera profiles is "C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles" It has two sub folders "Adobe Standard" and "Camera" in "Adobe Standard" adobe stores all its standard profile for all the cameras it has profile for. The "Camera" has sub folders for each model camera and those folders may have several profiles for the camera model.

Camera Profile missing in ACR 6.7 (PS CS5)

I have looked all over the place for a solution to this problem and so far can not find one.
I am running Windows 7 64bit, PS CS5.
I just noticed that my Nikon D90 camera profile is missing under the Camera Callibration area in Camera Raw (it had been there before). The only thing that shows up is ACR 4.6:
I have tried reinstalling the ACR 6.7 plug in...didn't work.
I really don't want to try to uninstall and reinstall Photoshop.
Oh, I have also looked on my computer in my C drive and found the list of camer profiles...the D90 is not listed (in fact, there are only 8 Nikon cameras listed in my Adobe Standard folder).
One more thing...I had CS4 installed originally. I have since uninstalled it. I'm not sure if the issue I am having has to do with that or a recent update.
Adobe should really have a seperate file that you can unstall just for camera profiles.
Like I said I have searched all over and have not found anything...I am really hoping there's someone on here that can tell me how to get my camera profile in there.

I recently installed Windows 8.
1. Can I get a ACR profiles for my Canon 1Ds Mk lll and my Sony RX 100?
2. Can I install the DNG Converter on Windows 8? This OS isn't listed as here as one of those suitable. > http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5389
3. Noel, where are the equivalent locations on a Windows 8 machine? ProgramData doesn't exist, as far as I can see.
Thanks.
D.
Edited:
Ok. I found another Adobe download that said Windows 8 is compatible, so I installed the DNG Converter.
However, no cameras are listed under Camera Profile in ACR.
This is the case whether I load a Canon RAW file or a DNG conversion of a Canon file.
Any idea how I can get the profiles to load?
Thanks.
D
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Camera Profile Default in LR2--Problems

I downloaded the camera profile betas and Camera Raw 4.5. When working with a Nef, I set a beta camera profile in LR2. No problem. When finished I open another NEF--same thing. Reverts to 4.4 default. Is there no way to make that sticky?
Also, each time I open LR the default profile is Camera Raw 4.4, and I have to reset it. Nefs are all I am testing LR2 with, shot with a D300. How do I get a sticky profile. What am I missing?
Also, since I have Camera Raw 4.5 installed, shouldn't that default to 4.5 instead of 4.4? 4.3 is also on the list, but not 4.5. Why isn't 4.5 available? Have I done something wrong?

[email protected] wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I downloaded the camera profile betas and Camera Raw 4.5. When working
> with a Nef, I set a beta camera profile in LR2. No problem. When
> finished I open another NEF--same thing. Reverts to 4.4 default. Is
> there no way to make that sticky?
>
> Also, each time I open LR the default profile is Camera Raw 4.4, and I
> have to reset it. Nefs are all I am testing LR2 with, shot with a
> D300. How do I get a sticky profile. What am I missing?
>
> Also, since I have Camera Raw 4.5 installed, shouldn't that default to
> 4.5 instead of 4.4? 4.3 is also on the list, but not 4.5. Why isn't
> 4.5 available? Have I done something wrong?
Try opening ARC with no photo, set the profile to what you want, and save
it as the default setting. I know I've left out the details, but the
general idea should work.
John Passaneau

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