My startup chime not muted anymore.

I do not want to remove it but all of a sudden even though I have my volume muted when I shutdown it still chimes when I start up. I have added no software but I had a crash yesterday where the Mac told me I needed to shut it down. After startup I had a bluescreen crash. Since then I have reinstalled the latest 10.6.8 combo as well as repaired permissions.
I have normal volume control.

It's not one of life's necessities, no. It is an awesome sound though. It's a pick-me-up.
I do find it curious that my old SE, SE30, IIci, LC475, Power Macintoshes 7500 and 8500, and PowerBook G3 always had the startup chime through the external speakers and this machine doesn't.

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Muting Startup chime without a 3rd party program

I have a mac os x 10.6.8 before I used to be able to mute the startup chime by muting the sound before shutting down my mac book pro, so the next time I woul start it up it didn't play thr chime. Now when I try to do the same thing/process it won't mute the chime anymore. I was wondering if it could be tha there is a problem with my mac or something else?

Christine_1433, what did they tell you at Apple when you called them? I'm having the same issue. Setting everything on MUTE, plugging in a headphone and again setting Prefs on mute, I still get a LOUD start up chime. I downloaded Start Up Sound. It works if I have Mute checked but there are times I want to the chime to be audible, just now so loud. I use to be able to adjust it before shutdown but nothing works anymore, even resetting the PRAM doesn't help.
Everything listed in the other thread posts here, and then some has already been tried.

Mac Mini won't boot, distorted startup chime, gray screen

Hi all --
I've seen similar posts (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=12170891&#12170891) but thought I'd start a new one, mainly because I haven't heard anyone mention the startup chime.
I woke up my 2007 stock Mac Mini Friday morning and the cursor was frozen. Unplugged and replugged the mouse to no avail. Couldn't force quit, so I had to power down. Restarted with a badly distored startup chime (not "speaker breakup" from excessive volume, just distortion, and some "stuttering") and a gray screen that didn't go away. Restarted many, many times. Inserted Snow Leopard DVD to run Disc Utility but it wasn't recognized -- just a gray screen. Tried resetting the PMU and SMC with no results. Tried booting into single-user mode (with a wired USB keyboard) to eject the DVD, but no luck. Tried open firmware, but nothing. Once in an while I would get the Apple icon and a spinning progress bar that never went away.
Took it to the Genius Bar, where they tried to boot from a Firewire drive, with no success. The best they could do was tell me my 17-month old Mac was out of warranty. That confirmed, I took it home, cracked it open and removed the Snow Leopard DVD (with a credit card) to insert the install disc it shipped with. That didn't work. A couple of times it looked like it would, but then after the spinning bar I got the multilingual system bomb message. Tried to run Hardware Test, but nothing. Put in original Disc 2... and that gave me a flashing folder! Progress! Forced the DVD out and slipped in Disc 1. That started to read, and then I got some kernel-panic looking text and a shutdown. My last attempt was to create a USB boot drive from the original install discs, but my old Sawtooth won't let me run the installer.
Is there any hope at this point? I just bought the thing last May, so I've had it less than a year and a half. The distorted startup chime makes me think the logic board is fried and no amount of fooling with the startup drive will make a difference. The only thing out of the ordinary in this case was that it went to sleep last Thursday night with a DV camera hooked up via Firewire.
I'm not thrilled about giving Apple any more money for another Mini, but I'm heavily invested in Logic Studio so I don't have much of a choice of platform.
I'm pretty sure I'm doomed, but I thought I'd post anyway. A quick internet search shows I'm not the only one with the gray screen of death on a fairly new Mini. Thanks in advance for any pointers.

Thanks.
The Genius was able to get to the Apple logo and spinning... thing (what used to be the beachball). His theory was that as long as the Snow Leopard disc was in there, the boot process would never get to the Firewire port. Once I got home I literally pried the Snow Leopard disc out and put in the original install disc. But any progress whatsoever ends in the system bomb message.
Thing is, I had tried to eject the disc by booting with the mouse button down. But on restarting, the laser in the optical mouse flashes quickly, once. I don't think the USB ports are going "live" at all... so I can't get into single user mode, safe mode, hardware test, anything. The Genius' keyboard was no help in that regard. So yeah, I suspect a hardware problem.
A search of "gray screen of death" shows this happening to a lot of models.

Lowering/muting startup chime volume on iMac 14,1 (Late 2013)?

Hello everyone,
Has anyone had any luck lowering or muting the startup chime volume on the iMac 14,1? I'm aware that general threads exist for muting the startup chime volume but a lot of solutions only work on Macbook Pro's.
Here are the techniques that I've tried or aren't practical:
- remembering to mute the volume before you shutdown
- never turning the iMac off, leaving it in sleep mode
- using StartNinja
- using Psst
- using the "Startup Sound" System Preferences pane.

I knew I had to deal with this answer (rkaufman's). But I suppose it's good that you posted this in case people who don't know any better want to mute their chime. You are absolutely right, which is why I'd prefer to simply lower the default volume of the chime rather than it being whatever the volume was right before one shuts down the computer.
One solution I've found is to leave Psst running in the background, which is a kludge but at least it works.
The person named den.thed above clearly did not read the original post.

Input and output audio not working and no startup chime

The audio, both input and output, on my MacBook Pro has stopped working as well as the startup chime. Otherwise the computer starts up and seems to be working normally. Any ideas as to what the problem is and solutions?

Hey, my MacBook Pro has been doing the EXACT same thing off and on for a few weeks now.
I'm just now having time to browse the forums, so I've not even asked about it.
Yesterday it all started working normally - all sounds.
I'll follow this discussion for sure.
There definitely seems to be enough 'Mac-Daddy' Mac Helpers on here to be able to easily resolve this issue.
i.e.: Andreas! Just reading her stuff lets me know she REALLY knows what she's talking about & is able to explain the highly advanced info in terms people actually get!
Thanks for asking that question!
~dOiTdiGiTaL~

TS1367 My PowerMac G5 will not start up. There is no startup chime, no display and the fans speed up and sound like and airplane after about 30 seconds. Can someone help?

I push the power button, and it turns on, but there is no startup chime, no video display, and after 30 seconds, the fans spin up. Any ideas?

G5 has these hardware issues:
-- bad capacitors on logic board
-- bad capacitors in power supply
-- badly soldered video chip
-- "There were several Mac models with flat panel displays that had bad displays.
     Most had serial numbers beginning with "W8"---the code for one specific factory.
     This affected PowerBooks as well. If that's the case, the rest of the computer
     is probably fine." by Allan Jones in
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Google: g5 capacitor replacement kit
More info on capacitor replacement kits
http://jimwarholic.com/2008/07/how-to-repair-apple-imac-g5.php
http://thecapking.com/applg5.html

Macbook Pro not starting up no startup chime

Friday afternoon, I attempted to start up the Macbook Pro but after the Superdrive made a sound, I don't hear any startup chime. Yesterday night, after having to remove the battery and by inserting the RJ-45 Jack into the Macbook Pro, I finally got the thing to boot and I was able to back up both my Mac *AND* my iPhone 5. However, this morning, in spite of me taking the battery out and also going back to Wi-Fi connection, this morning when I had the Macbook Pro sleep (Macbook Pro Early 2008, 2.6MHz, 15-Inch), when I tried to wake it up, the Macbook Pro won't display any video, so I turned the Macbook Pro off by holding the Power Button until the Macbook Pro turned off. Now I tried to reboot the Mac by doing a PRAM plus an SMC Reset before I attempted to get the Mac to boot up again. I turned the power on, same thing happened on Friday Afternoon. That's the bad news. The good news is that I was able to have my Macbook Pro backed up whilst it was running yesterday night. The MagSafe Adapter is displaying a "connected" light (Green/Amber), and I know that the Superdrive is working fine, but I don't hear a start-up chime.
Now to tell you guys, I've been using a heavy amount of Flash on the Mac, and all I know is that Apple has been very ballistic against Flash due to Flash causing Macs to crash day after day.
Long story short. Turned the power on (even without the battery in), MagSafe Adapter is working fine, no startup chime. I also heard about the mass GeForce recall that affects certain Macbook Pros as well. I don't want to think it's the Logic Board or the Processor, even worse, the CMOS Battery. I also don't want to think that my Macbook Pro is infected with a Boot Sector Virus neither.
Seriously I don't want to see myself buying a new Macbook after 4 years of having the same Mac I have, but it could be the worst case scenario. I have my Mac backed up on the Time Capsule, just in case I must move to a newer, lighter Mac since I'm more of a mobile Mac user.

Well 4-5 years seems to be the average life span of a MacBook Pro computer depending upon use, how much dust it's inhales and hasn't been cleaned out
Also in my opinion that machine is too old to handle 10.7 or 10.8, despite Apple's say otherwise, you should have stayed with 10.6.8
All I can suggest is you run through this list of fixes, install OS X on a external drive (reboot twice from it to change the EFI firmware) and see if it's a internal hard drive issue, if you have to replace the internal drive, make sure to remove the fans and clean the vents there of dust, but it could be the heat damage to the video chip has already occurred and is irreversible.
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Create a data recovery/undelete external boot drive
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MBP does not boot - no startup chime

Hey folks,
a couple of days ago my MBP (2.16 Ghz, 2 GB RAM, 250GB HD, OSX 10.4.11) crashed. The screen froze and I turned it off using the power on/off button. Since then (at least that's when I realized it) it won't turn on any more when it's "hot". When I press the power on button the optical drive spins, fans turn on but the screen stays black and I can't hear the startup chime. No reactions at all - can't use keyboard shortcuts,.... - only chance is to turn it off again with the power button.
If I let it cool down for a couple of hours or use an external fan for this it starts up just if there wasn't anything at all.
Already repaired permissions, reset PRAM,...
To be a bit more precise what "hot" means: when I check istat pro or something and the CPU is over 40°C /105°F it won't turn on any more.
Has anyone of you experienced similar things?
I appreciate your help.

Hi!
I am in love with this MacBook Pro...
But for the last two weeks, starts to get frozen on a random. Then when trying to turn it on, nothing happens (just a tinny noice coming from the board). I went throught Apple Support website and I ended by reseting the Apple portable's System Manager Controler (SMC) which means removing adapter cord and battery, then holding the start button for 5 secs and then releasing it. Then I tryied again to start it up and worked fine. By now it still shuts down time to time but immediatly starts up again itself. Weird, isn't!
Thought has to be something with the termal sensors and the SMC perhaps!
Any suggestions?

No startup chime, red light, fans running loud...

yeah, I know that there are other threads with the same topic, but I just wanted to know how common this problem is?
How many people have experienced this?
What are the common disturbances?
What is going on?
Why is such an expensive, powerhouse computer become such a puny electronic product because of power issues?
I posted this in another thread but,
Here's my story:
I am having the same problem.
Now before you start taking advice to back up all your data, reformat your hard drive, and reinstall all the software; please take note of a few things:
first off, I'm ****** that this is happening to me. I spend $5000+ for a "reliable" Apple computer. Then it doesn't want to turn on because its not safe. Sorry if I drown this post with bitter sarcasm but I am coming to the end of the line with my patience.
I called Apple Care, read a bunch of posts (here and elsewhere), and yes I do know about the SMU Reset button (like that really does anything?).
My problem happened a few weeks ago and I thought nothing of it at first. There was a power outage for a quick second and it turned everything off. When I went to turn on my computer, there was no chime, the red light was on, and the fans were running and eventually began running very loud. After letting it run like that in hopes of the screen lighting up, I turned it off by holding the power button. By the way, there's nothing on the screen and the keyboard doesn't work (I use a wireless keyboard, but I plugged in the OG cord keyboard to push whatever series of buttons recommended by these "geniuses") Trust me, the computer doesn't make it to that part of the boot process, so stop with commandoption+PR or F12 to get the CD out. It doesn't work! What's up with this computer! It can handle all these intense calculations,etc. but a power surge is going to shut it down indefinitely.
So I left the computer came back the next day, turned it on and its fine. Cool, I'm happy. It's Working!! I go on a few weeks, then I go to turn it on this Monday, same problem. But actually a worse situation. I had a client come over and the computer wouldn't work. I looked like a idiot. Couldn't do anything cause my computer didn't want to turn on. I do music production/editing. I use my G5 for running ProTools LE. I have other programs but that is the main one I use. There's nothing wrong with it. It's optimized for use with the mac. So those people who are going to advise me to uninstall all my software and all that - I appreciate your concern but don't give advice when you don't know anything!
So I am getting frustrated. My client left a little disappointed, but what can you do? I tried to call AppleCare on Mon. but it was Memorial Day. So I waited for Tues.
Tues morning, my computer turns on like everything is fine.
I'm happy but cautious. I talk to AppleCare rep. He tells me that it is a common problem they have heard about with the G5's. Wherever blackouts, brownouts, spikes, sags, dips, and other electricity inconsistencies occur, the Power Mac G5 has a breaker in it which flips so it doesn't receive uneven power supply and damage internal components.
I like that feature. Good thinking Apple. Protecting my investment from bad electrical grids. But I don't like the fact my computer has a mind of its own where it decides when it wants to boot or when it wants to sit there and run its fans all loud.
I shut down Tues morn to go to work. I come back in the evening, it doesn't want to boot up. Instead of getting angry trying a bunch of times to turn on/turn off the computer, I leave my house all together and go and have a few drinks. I come home ,don't even look at my computer, and go to bed.
I wake up Wed. morning. Go to turn on my computer. Successful boot. It's running. Okay, I think, I'm going to get down to the problem. I read all the logs, not like I know every piece of info, but just to see what's happening. Everything looks fine. I decide to run the AppleCare CD Tech Tool. It says restart holding down C. I do that. When the gray Apple Logo comes up, all this writing about kernals comes up and it tells me to restart or shutdown. I shutdown and attempt to restart, same problem: no chime, red light on, and fans eventually spin loud. Now the CD is stuck in there. I'm going to take it to the Apple Store tomorrow to if these "geniuses" can figure it out.
(Just a side note: Apple calls them geniuses, but its hard for me to think some disconnected college kid with a bad haircut and questionable social skills knows what's up with the power supply issues of a computer; maybe I'm wrong, but you can run your diagnostics and look at the chart of what to do and all that BUT Apple needs to listen to the people)
I am going to get a UPS (uninteruptable power supply) with a clean sine wave output to curb the issue at my end. It's not my fault I live in a area that receives uneven power output. I live in Los Angeles. Summer is starting up and I think its going to be hot, so blackouts, power dips and sags are inevitable. I just don't understand why Apple hasn't considered this problem and fixed it with something:
A recall to change the power supply, Is it something on the logic board?, are they going to reimburse me for lost income (Ha, yeah right)
I really want to know how many people are having this problem?
From what I've heard, it is a common problem.
So I think we need a common solution.
If its so common, it must be the computer. We are all going to live in different areas where the power may vary. Not all of us have the consistent power flow of 1 Infinite Loop in Cupertino, CA. So if it is such a common problem, Apple needs to fix it.
I can't spend more than five grand on a super duper computer and have it wuss out on some power issues.
Its a loss of income and productivity to me.
I can't have that anymore.
Sometimes my computer turns on, sometimes it doesn't.
I bought my PowerMac G5 in April 2006, its been about a month and a half and I'm having these problems.
Thank you for your time.
If anyone else has been having this problem, I feel for you.
It was been very difficult for me not to curse in this post, but I have tried to extend the same respect to all that use these discussion boards to create dialogue, find help, and create solutions.
LETS FIX IT!
Peace,
Swami G
Power Mac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.6) Dual 2.3 Ghz / 4.5 GB RAM

Well, you can see my specs below. I have the same problems as you, just worse. I am also running (as I have my previous systems) on an APC Smart-UPS 2200, and it doesn't solve this problem.
I bought my machine last December. In early March (just 2 days before my 90 days of phone support were up), I woke the computer from sleep to check email; about 5 minutes later it just froze. I had to force it down, but it never even got to the startup chime.
Called Apple, bought Apple Care on the spot, spent about 45 minutes on the phone with two levels of support, and Apple couldn't really diagnose the problem. They decided to send out a replacement logic board, processor unit and power supply for on-site service (I don't have an Apple service center nearby).
Nearly two weeks later the technician arrived with the parts, installed all of them, and - nothing. The system still exhibited the same symptoms as before the repair. He spent around five hours here, most of it on the phone with Apple. They decided that the processor unit they shipped was defective, so they sent another processor unit.
Nearly another two weeks later, the re-replacement processor unit arrived with the tech. He installed it, and everything worked. This was around April 1.
Fast forward to last Wednesday. Arrived home from work, tried to wake the Mac. Nothing happened. Had to force the machine off. Never booted again. Called Apple and went through the motions again. They're sending another logic board, processor unit, and power supply.
I asked about having the machine replaced since this will be the third repair attempt, considering it took two visits and nearly a month to repair it the first time it died. Apple was unwilling to replace it but I was told that if I had another failure, a replacement would be in the cards.
I agree with you about needing reliability in a computer as expensive as a Power Mac. It is not acceptable to have this kind of failure, repeatedly, with this kind of system. If my Windows PC has a hardware failure, I can take care of it myself. A top-end power supply is ~$200, a quality system board is ~$200-$300 - all very doable, and in very little time, if the need arises. A Power Mac logic board is ~$1K, a cpu module is well over $1K, who knows how much that crappy power supply costs, etc. If you have Apple Care, you face the kinds of downtime I'm having to deal with. A month without use of your computer. I mean, if I buy a Dell workstation, or an HP workstation, and pay an extra $200-$300 for service and something fails, Unisys will be here the next day and it will be fixed. That's the standard business class service experience you get from those companies with a computer that costs $600, much less the $3000+ you dish out for a Quad Power Mac. Apple's response is unacceptable.
It's a good thing I have kept my Windoze machine around, cause it's really saved my butt the last 2-3 months; that also makes me really sad, because in the last 6-7 years of Power Mac ownership I've had zero problems with any of them. My dad has my previous machine, a Rev A Dual 2.0 G5, and it's rock solid.
I sure hope that the Intel based Power Mac replacement doesn't suffer from what ever seems to afflict the recent Power Macs. I would absolutely hate to abandon OSX, but I will not put up with this kind of quality failure (hardware & service) again.
Power Mac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.4) Quad 2.5 GHz, 4GB RAM, Disk0: 74GB WD Raptor

Startup Chimes with audio cable connected?

My Mini has started to sound it's healthy startup chime even when there is an audio cable connected to the audio/headphone output. The output works fine and sends audio to the speakers, but how can I mute the chime at startup?
Previously it always muted that sound with a cable connected and I believe it started chiming when I updated to 10.5.4.
TIA.

The mini generates the startup chime via the internal speakers regardless of whether external speakers are connected or not - the necessary support for the hardware audio port isn't loaded until after the power-on self test (which is what generates the chime) so in common with the iMac range, the chime comes from the internal speakers.
The only way to mute the chime at startup is to set the Sound preference pane to Mute (check the 'Mute' box in the Sound Effects tab). There are also some utilities such as Startup Sound (http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~arcana/index.en.html) which variously succeed in muting the chime, though these tend to get broken with MacOS updates.

How to physically stop mac pro 2008's startup chime

I have a 2008 Mac pro and since upgrading to Mavericks, nothing at all has stopped the startup chime from blaring out of the speakers at every startup. In normal use, it's annoying, during troubleshooting, it is intolerable in our quiet workplace.
None of the 3rd party software solutions for silencing the startup chime work in Mavericks.
The Terminal solution has not worked since Lion, I believe.
Muting the volume before shutdown does not work.
Inserting a headphone plug does not work.
The chime just will not shut up.
I am not interested in the replies whose main message is one of these: "Wow, never heard that one before." ; "What a small problem." ; "The startup chime is an important troubleshooting tool." ; "I don't have that problem / your problem is wrong."
But I would be very grateful for instructions on how to disconnect the speaker physically – preferably without doing any harm to my machine. If there is a software solution that works in Mavericks, I will try it but I am not aware of any.

Thanks, Johnb-one, I ruled out StartNinja because I have tried it before on a couple OS cats but it has never worked for me. I'll try it again just to be sure because they now claim Mavericks-compatibility.
As per my original post, I have already tried the other two suggestions. They have worked in the past up until Mountain Lion. Apple has really ramped up security around the startup chime with Mavericks.
As I understand, the startup chime is a completely separate entity from the OS itself. Some versions of OS X have allowed limited access to its volume but Mavericks removed all that.

I had somebody work on my OS 10.9.2 to speed it up. He failed and now Preview, Textedit, App Store, Mail and Contacts do not work anymore. I can still use Safari, Firefox and iPhoto etc. How do I get it fix I can still use Safari, Firefox and ed again?

I had somebody work on my OS 10.9.2 to speed it up. He failed and now Preview, Textedit, App Store, Mail (crashes) and Contacts do not work anymore. I can still use Safari, Firefox, Word, Photoshop and iPhoto etc. How do I get the Apple programs fixed again?

Try these in order testing your system after each to see if it's back to normal:
1. a. Resetting your Mac's PRAM and NVRAM
    b. Intel-based Macs: Resetting the System Management Controller (SMC)
2. Restart the computer in Safe Mode, then restart again, normally. If this doesn't help, then:
     Boot to the Recovery HD: Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the
     COMMAND and R keys until the Utilities menu screen appears. Alternatively, restart the
     computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager
     screen appears. Select the Recovery HD and click on the downward pointing arrow button.
3. Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions: Upon startup select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu. Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions as follows.
When the recovery menu appears select Disk Utility. After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the main menu. Select Restart from the Apple menu.
     Reinstall the 10.9.2 update: OS X Mavericks 10.9.2 Update (Combo).
4. Reinstall Lion/Mountain Lion, Mavericks: Reboot from the Recovery HD. Select Reinstall Lion/Mountain Lion, Mavericks from the Utilities menu, and click on the Continue button.
Note: You will need an active Internet connection. I suggest using Ethernet if possible because it is three times faster than wireless.
Reinstall the 10.9.2 update: OS X Mavericks 10.9.2 Update (Combo).

Startup Sound Pref Pane killed Startup Chime...

I made the mistake of installing and trying out the Startup Sound Pref pane from Arcana -
http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~arcana/StartupSound/index.en.html
I'm running 10.5.6 on an Al Intel iMac. What it seems this pane will do is allow you to turn the startup chime down, but not adjust it back up...if you mute it, it's muted permanently. I've tried uninstalling the pane and flushing caches, and zapping PRAM (though I can't tell if it actually zapped). Still no Startup chime.
I want the Apple default back...how do I fix?..

If you want to start from scratch I would download 1.1b2 and run the Uninstaller that comes in the .dmg, which should remove all vestiges of Startup Sound.pref from your Mac.
Normally the System Volume controls the volume of the Startup Chime if it is the last thing that you adjust before you Shut Down your Mac. For example, if you set the System Volume to the level at which you want to hear the chime and then Shut Down your Mac, when you Restart your Mac, that should be the volume level that you hear the chime. Likewise, if the last thing you do is mute the System Volume and then Shut Down the Mac, when you Restart the Mac, you should not hear the Startup Chime.
The one caveat to this is if your Mac has been sleeping. If you waken your Mac and immediately Shut Down, when you Restart the Mac, the Startup Chime will be muted. To insure that your Startup Chime is not muted, after you awaken your Mac, either play a sound intentionally or adjust the System Volume, then Shut Down your Mac and when it Restarts the Startup Sound should be the level that you have set.
On my iMac Intel, even though I have external speakers, the Startup Chime plays through the internal speakers. On my old iMac G3, with external speakers connected, everything plays through the external speakers.
The Startup Chime is your Mac alerting your that it has passed the POST (Power On Self Test), and that the Test has found usable RAM installed at startup. iMacs, based on the model, have a series on Alert Codes, chimes, beeps or flashing power indicator lights, that alert you when the POST encounters problems.

Java Web Start Application surprisedly does not start anymore based on new JRE1.7.0_45

Hi everyone,
we have to maintain a self-developed Java Application which is running based on JRE1.5.0_51 (x64). Our recent client machines have JRE1.7.0_40 (x64 too) installed in addition to the mentioned (and needed) JRE1.5.0_51 (x64).
Everything was fine up to the point where we tried to install the newest JRE1.7.0_45 (x64) as the new version for doing the web start magic. The result is that our application (which is/was unchanged!) does not launch anymore. The strange thing is that we do not get any StackTrace, Exception or something else like this.
The startup process simply hangs :-(
Nothing has changed (application itself, firewall, network settings, hardware) apart from the new JRE version. It's reproducible at will. If I install JRE1.7.0_40 (x64) the application starts, if I install JRE1.7.0_45 (x64) the application hangs.
I can say for sure, that in both cases (*_40 AND *_45) Web Start is able to do the synchronizing job and to launch the application base on the correct JRE1.5.0_51 (x64).
My guess is that in case of an installed JRE1.7.0_45 (x64), the application hangs when it tries to connect to the database (Oracle 11g) via JDBC.
I found a little hint in the Web Start Console. Therefore I had to switch the trace level of the console to 3 (which includes security, network and basic)
In case of an installed JRE1.7.0_40 (x64) - which leads to a running application - I will receive the following output:
Java Web Start 10.40.2.43
JRE-Version verwenden 1.5.0_51-b10 Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM
security: Istrusted: http://PKS-Server/jnlp2/advise_office.jnlp true
avawsApplicationMain     3798 DEBUG root                : get Service: com.sun.jnlp.BasicServiceImpl@3b8e609b fileName: connection.properties
network: Cacheeintrag nicht gefunden [URL: http://PKS-Server/jnlp2//connection.properties, Version: null]
network: Verbindung von http://PKS-Server/jnlp2//connection.properties mit Proxy=DIRECT wird hergestellt
avawsApplicationMain     3803 INFO root                : 'Alex2 connection.properties' wurde vom WebServer gelesen
network: Verbindung von socket://PKS-Server:1521 mit Proxy=DIRECT wird hergestellt
avawsApplicationMain     4488 DEBUG root                : get Service: com.sun.jnlp.BasicServiceImpl@3b8e609b fileName: connection.properties
network: Cacheeintrag nicht gefunden [URL: http://PKS-Server/jnlp2//connection.properties, Version: null]
network: Verbindung von http://PKS-Server/jnlp2//connection.properties mit Proxy=DIRECT wird hergestellt
avawsApplicationMain     4492 INFO root                : 'Alex2 connection.properties' wurde vom WebServer gelesen
Connect OK => application starts.
In case of an installed JRE1.7.0_45 (x64) - which leads to a hanging application - I will receive the following output:
Java Web Start 10.45.2.18
JRE-Version verwenden 1.5.0_51-b10 Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM
security: Istrusted: http://PKS-Server/jnlp2/advise_office.jnlp true
avawsApplicationMain     3805 DEBUG root                : get Service: com.sun.jnlp.BasicServiceImpl@25a41cc7 fileName: connection.properties
network: Cacheeintrag nicht gefunden [URL: http://PKS-Server/jnlp2//connection.properties, Version: null]
network: Verbindung von http://PKS-Server/jnlp2//connection.properties mit Proxy=DIRECT wird hergestellt
avawsApplicationMain     3810 INFO root                : 'Alex2 connection.properties' wurde vom WebServer gelesen
network: Verbindung von socket://PKS-Server:1521 mit Proxy=DIRECT wird hergestellt
network: Verbindung von socket://PKS-Server:1521 mit Proxy=DIRECT wird hergestellt
network: Verbindung von socket://PKS-Server:1521 mit Proxy=DIRECT wird hergestellt
network: Verbindung von socket://PKS-Server:1521 mit Proxy=DIRECT wird hergestellt
network: Verbindung von socket://PKS-Server:1521 mit Proxy=DIRECT wird hergestellt
network: Verbindung von socket://PKS-Server:1521 mit Proxy=DIRECT wird hergestellt
network: Verbindung von socket://PKS-Server:1521 mit Proxy=DIRECT wird hergestellt
network: Verbindung von socket://PKS-Server:1521 mit Proxy=DIRECT wird hergestellt
network: Verbindung von socket://PKS-Server:1521 mit Proxy=DIRECT wird hergestellt
network: Verbindung von socket://PKS-Server:1521 mit Proxy=DIRECT wird hergestellt
network: Verbindung von socket://PKS-Server:1521 mit Proxy=DIRECT wird hergestellt
These last "network:" log entries will never stop. This will lead to an infinite loop which results in a great memory leak. I have to kill the process via windows task manager in order to get rid of it.
Does someone out there has the same problem? Are there any new additional security issues which prevent my client to establish the database connection on port 1521?
Any other ideas?
Thanks in advance for any hint on this issue!
Regards,
Alex

Resolution: We still were not able to solve this issue! The only way to get out of this is to install the JRE1.5 as the x64 variant. In this case no switching from 64-bit to 32-bit is needed and everything is on track again.
But this is still strange and unexplainable :-(

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