My surround Sound is messing up he

Hi guys, Here is my set up
t7900 7. surround sound by creative
x-fi xtremeaudio
I have set up the wiring correctly now, but the sounds arent coming out on some of the speakers while some of them makes a sound, its in the wrong speaker. I have correctly set up the hardware.
I.e. the left speaker produces sound intended for the center speaker, but once I change the settings from 7. to headphones in the console.. the right and left speakers correctly addresses the speakers. I dont know why but can this be caused by a software bug or is it my speaker/sound card that has hardware problems. Help!

Hey Todd01,
Try the tips in this article: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93610
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Guide : Getting 5.1 surround sound. Audigy 2

Hi all
I thought I would write up a really quick but effecti've and simple guide for owners of the Audigy2 ZS and seeing how its Xmas time, I can assume a few lucky boys and girls may have this awesome card under the tree.
Most of whats covered should work with all creative products.
(Sorry, but I WILL NOT cover any info regarding encoding media or the like that will conflict with copyright laws)
This guide is for setting up your Creative Audigy 2 ZS for surround sound 5. reproduction and information in regards to required Filters/Codecs. I have not included any advanced set up options or the like as the ZS with the set ups I have incluced here will cover it out of the box.
One of the most common issues people may have with 5. not fuctioning correctly while playing a DVD movie ( Mpeg ) or any multi channel media that is 5. encoded, has to do with Codecs/Filters.
Most media players will not decode all AC3filters/Mpeg, thus require extra filters/codecs/plugins to be installed.
Ok , the first thing to do is ensure your sound card and speakers are set up correctly.
Most common speaker sets have 3 plugs that go in the back of your card .
EG, Logitech X-530. Pink = Front Centre.Black = Rear left and right. Green = Front left and right.
Ensure they are in the correct place and are tightly fitted.Ensure your sound card is secure and tightly in place.Make sure your speaker cables are tidy and not a big tangled mess.
Ensure in device audio controls that SPDIF passthrough is NOT ticked as this is for optical output ( the ZS pro with rack fuction )
Update to the latest drivers an media source ap
ps.
A few little things to set up first in Creative Mixer Control Panel to ensure cleaner sound:
Lower Master and Wav volume in Creative mixer to about 90% as to avoid any over dri've disstortion.Lower Master Bass Volume to about 90% to avoid over powering the bass.Ensure that your speaker settings Windows control panel and Creative speaker settings match your speaker set up..
Also run the THX Speaker Callibration test in basic mode.
YOU SHOULD DISSABLE CMSS IN EAX CP IN ORDER TO GET 5. TO FUCTION AS IT SHOULD.
CMSS is to be use only for a MONO or STEREO source/signal. It is for sending the stereo/mono signal ( left and right) to all speakers. This is not 5., mearly it is the same signal sent to all speakers to give you a more rich and vivid sound reproduction of an other wise flat source.
Turn off any EAX FX.
Things you want to do to ensure stable use:
SHUT DOWN CTHELPER:
A background task that is a plug-in manager for Creative drivers. A 3rd party manufacturer can use the CTHELPER plug-in interface to produce drivers, add-on features, and fixes that will integrate with a tighter fit with Creative?s sound drivers and utilities. Gi'ven its purpose CTHELPER would normally be classified as a "leave alone" background task. It also allows Creative speaker setup to be synchronized with Windows Control Panel speaker setting. Without it running that check box in Creative speaker setting is not functional (settings are not in sync). Unfortunately there are often problems with CTHELPER, most notably that it can use 00% of CPU time so it's best left disabled unless you REALLY need it .
Type in run "msconfig" and shut down all Creative Start up entries. Infact its proberly best to shut everything down.
NOTE: Any essentinal Software for the proper fuction of devices ,Eg: Razer mouse utils should be left on.
Simple Bios settings to help improve audio and stablity:
Dissable Pallette Snoop.ANY AND ALL shadows for devices, EG VGA BIOS and system bios should be dissabled. If you have the setting for PCI latency in your bios ( AGP boards only ) set it to 64, if its already at 64 try 32 .
Shut down ( remove, reconmended ) any 3rd party tweak apps that run in the background.
EG, Cache Man and any monitoring software.
Ok, now for Filters/Codecs and Plugins.
A major required Filter is AC3. (ac3filter__0a_rc5)
AC3Filter - it is DirectShow filter for AC3 decoding to play AVI with AC3 audio tracks and MPEG2 (DVD). Required for WMP.
NOTE: If you have DVD software that should play encoded 5. then make sure you have any updates/patches for the player installed and go through the tools/options for the player and ensure its setup correctly to decode AC3filters in the applictions tools menu.
If you use Cyberlink Power DVD you may need to pay an extra fee to get the required AC3filter/MPEG2 decoders to fuction as all 5. sound settings may be greyed out on some dated versions.
InterVideo WIN DVD ( this software suit comes with most "Asus" if not all makes of Mainboards. This suit comes complete with the required codecs/filters so get full surrport for 5. - 6. - 7. out of the box. Note: you must set it up first under audio options as it defualts to 2..
If you use WMP0 you should download and install the AC3filter or get the latest XP codec/filters packs. With out these filters you may not get 5. sound and/or poor reproduction.
Supported file types:
The following table lists the file types (formats) supported by Windows Media Player .(For files type played by Power DVD or WIN DVD please refer to the makers website or read me file for a detailed list).
File type (format) File name extension .
Music CD Playback (CD audio) .cda Audio Interchange File Format (AIFF) .aif, .aifc, and .aiff Windows Media audio and video files .asf, .asx, .wax, .wm, .wma, .wmd, .wmp, .wmv, .wmx, .wpl, and .wvx Windows audio and video files .avi and .wav Windows Media Player skins .wmz Moving Picture Experts Group (MPEG) .mpeg, .mpg, .mv, .mp2, .mpa, .mpe, .mp2v*, and .mpv2 Musical Instrument Digital Interface (MIDI) .mid, .midi, and .rmi AU (UNIX) .au and .snd MP3 .mp3 and .m3u DVD video .vob Macromedia Flash .swf Microsoft Recorded TV Show .dvr-ms*
NOTE: WMP defualts to 2.. To enable 5. run WMP0. Click on tools then point to options. Navigate to DVD then open up the advanced window. In here is everything you need to set things up.
NOTE: If you mess things up simply return to defult settings and start over.
Some common errors you may encounter with WMP.
Error messages are identified by numerical IDs, such as C00D0BC2 and 800704CF. You can determine the ID of a specific error message by clicking the More Information or Web Help button on the error message when you encounter it. The resulting page will indicate the error ID.
: Error's C00D6A and C00D9A while playing DVD's or MPEG-2 content.
This is directly related to either your current video card drivers or the MPEG-2/DVD decoder you have installed (EG: PowerDVD, Win DVD etc ). Reinstalling and/or uninstalling the MPEG-2/DVD decoder (PowerDVD, Win DVD ) and/or video drivers should fix the problem for you.
You should now be able to re-install you decoder ( Power DVD etc ) and continue its use.
Erro : C00DAC:
Cannot play the file Windows Media Player cannot play the protected file because there is a problem with your sound device, such as a sound card or sound controller. You might encounter this error message for one of the following reasons.
Your sound device requires an updated driver. ( update driver )
The selected sound device does not support Secure Audio Path (SAP).
If you have multiple sound devices installed on your computer, try using a different one.
To use a different sound device, on the Tools menu, click Options, and then click the Devices tab. Double-click Speakers, audio device to use, click a different device.
Error : "divide error in module IVIAUDIO.AX at".
Only exists in systems that have various Sound Blaster Li've sound cards and WinDVD installed.
This is infact a compatibility problem between these products. The problem is realized when MP3 oriented applications call upon certain sound card services making it look as though the error was raised from within the application in question.
FIX:Uninstall WIN DVD. Reinstall WMP and AC3 filter and then reinstall DVD WIN.
A simple but rare issue.
ModName.Win DVD "msvcrt.dll" and/or Win DVD MFC application error.
FIX:
Uninstall any java filters. Macromedia and Macromedia Acti'veX.
( to remove Acti'veX go to C:\WINDOWS\Downloaded Program Files and delete the Acti'veX )
What are codecs Codecs/Filters.
Codec stands for Coder/Decoder. Basically it is a piece of software or a driver that adds a support for certain video/audio format for your operating system. With codec, your system recognizes the format the codec is built for and allows you to play the audio/video file (=decode) or in some cases, to change another audio/video file into that format (=(en)code).
For example, when you install Windows to your home computer, Windows installs automatically most commonly used codecs into the system, so you don't have to download them separately from their vendors. However there are some codecs that are widely used, but not installed by Windows. Most notably DivX , MPEG-2.
Get all the Codecs/Filters/Plugins you could ever need from:
http://www.free-codecs.com/AC3_Filter_download.htm (ac3filter__0a_rc5)
http://www.free-codecs.com/
NOTE: ( XviD-.0.3-2022004 for Divx ) Stand alone codec for playing Divx instead of the Divx full install.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...0/default.aspx
Ok, you now should be all set.
However Codecs/Filters/Plugins are like any other kind of software installed and things can go wrong. If things are not working as they should try the following.
Download and install "Gspot"
http://gspot.headbands.com/download.htmlBuild 0307 - 23 KB Run the programme and simply point to system and select "List Codecs and other Filters"
Its a no brainer really to know whats what here and how to use it to find out the source of the issue, if you have one. If its red, its bad so you then need to trace the Filter/Codec to its source and remove it.
Here is just one very simple excample you may encounter and how it was fixed.
If you have ffdshow file is missing error pop up while running a player application, first go to C:\WINDOWS\system32 and search for ffdshow.en. Its proberly not here though. If it is just leave it be.
NOTE: ffdshow is used for AVI/Xvid enc/dec source.
To fix this "ffdshow Video Codec file is missing " error Simply uninstall your Xvid codec or your entire DivX programme, or any other Filter/Codec you have installed for playback of DivX files and AVI Video Files.
(Some times it seems a few Codecs/Filters dont get along so you must be aware of what you install).
Cheak "Gspot" again and Filter should be removed from the list.
Now you can reinstall the Xvid filter "XviD-.0.3-2022004" or your desired DivX programme.
Now go back toC:\WINDOWS\system32 and search for ffdshow.en. It should be there if it was not before. If the issue is back try a different version of required Filter.
So, thats just excample of a simple fix that got everything working again. Its not to hard to find out what the problem Codec/Filter is and then its just a case of uninstalling it. You can re-install the Codec/Filter but you should double cheak with "Gspot" and ensure the issue has not repeated itself .
If it has you can try and find out if the issue is related to another type filter causing a conflict or use an alternate Filter/Codec that will perform the same task .
Search for an updated version of required the Codec/Filter also.
Ok, thats pretty much the basics in getting correct and stable 5. sound working the way it should with your new Creative Audigy 2 ZS sound card.
I hope this has been of help.
Regards,xmn.
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Problems with HQ-2300D headphones. Lack of surround sound and other minor probs.

I've bought Creative HQ-2300D, and I am disappointed so far.
My first problem was instructions. I am not trying to insult anyone, but the booklet didn't instruct anything. It merely explained what the buttons did and what did the pictures mean (as if I can't recognize a notebook when I see one). The diagram did not include PCs, either.
Regardless, it wasn't useless as finally I've made the headphones & the decoder work. I was surprised that the cable connecting my machine and the decoder was short and thin. Very thin. Here's what I had in my bundle, aside from the decoder, headphones, and cheap Energizer AA batteries:
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"A" is used for connecting the headphones to video game consoles, I gathered, so I put it aside, since I needed to connect the headphones and decoder to my PC. I tried using "B", but couldn't fit the black thing anywhere. "C" worked. Did I get it right?
I tried music first. Horrid. Bass sounded blurred out and what closely followed could only be described as hands clapping with bass at zero. After messing around with settings, I've managed to reduce that effect to a minimum. Then I've tried watching a movie, and the sound quality was actually very good. Although I've been watching a DVD, I didn't notice surround sound.
Then I've tried games. Half-Life 2 and then Doom 3 with EAX patch. The sound quality is admirable, but I didn't notice surround sound. Is there anything I need to tweak? Also, there's faint noise after low sounds.
Are the headphones defected, or what?
EDIT: Forgot to mention my soundcard is X-Fi Platinum.
Message Edited by Flawless on 07-07-2007 08:31 AM

I'm really sorry for the double post, but after thoroughly reading the instructions again, I've managed to eliminate that faint static by pressing Dolby Pro Logic II and Dolby Headphones buttons simultaneously and holding them for 2 seconds.
But the surround sound is still absent. I thoroughly tested with the helicopter sound circling you, with both CMSS-3D on and off, I fired up Half-Life 2 and Doom 3 and tested if there's any difference between front and back, with both CMSS-3D on and off. I closed my eyes, and I couldn't tell where the sound was coming from.

DTS & 5.1 Surround Sound using my Home AV Receiver and X

Hello, new to the boards and computers (buying @ least). Let me start with my Desktop, followed by the sound card and my home AV Recei'ver. BTW, all drivers are current and up to date.
HP m820n
Processor
Intel Viiv Processor Intel Core2 Quad Processor Q6600 (2.4GHz)
Operating system
Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Platinum Fatalty w/ I/O Dri've
AV RECEIVER
Yamaha HTR-5730 5. w/ DTS and Dobly Pro Logic II.
Connection between the two:
Digital Coax Cable from X-Fi I/O SPDIF Out to AV Reciever CD Coax Digital Input.
At first there wasn't any sounds coming from my receiver using the current connection (see above). However, I was able to change an input to digital PCM (pulse code modulation) on my AV Recei'ver and all of the sudden, I'm listening to mp3 & wma files in surround sound (all 6 speakers).
I thought that the problem was solved. Well then today I discovered it changed to stereo only, and as long as the digital input cable was hooked in back of the receiver, I couldn't change the setting from "stereo, PCM" to DSP, DTS or DoblyII. Solution? buy the Home Theater cable set or external decoder.
Next Problem, for some reason when I change the X-Fi settings to 5. ( or 2.0) and set up a "test" (whether creat.labs or Window's Media Center)there's no sound coming from any channel/speakers. HOWEVER, my AV Recei'ver will even change the setting from "Stereo" to "5." on the test automatically....but still, there's no sound??
So.... I ignored it and figured to grab my Led Zeppelin Double Disc DVD that's Dobly Digital and DTS 5. Sorround sound. After messing w/ the default & SPDIF by-pass settings and inserting the DVD, I can only listen to it in Stereo (left and right PCM). BTW, changed audio selection in menu on DVD too.
What gives? What's digital even good for on these things since the only solutions are to ether decode or switch to analog. Also, sorry that this is so long and possibly parts don't make sense but I'm extremely tired (2:45 am Central).
Thanks,
Chris

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Also, an update. Using my TV Tuner card, I was able to watch tonights football game in HD which is Dobly 5. Surround sound. Sure enough, the AV Recei'ver kicked into Dobly Digital right away. Now I just need to figure out how to configure DTS and Dobly using my DVD's and possibly buying software that converts music files into surround sound.
Chris

6.1 6700 + audigy 2 zs / surround sound?

Hi everyone,
I have an audify 2 zs soundcard and a set of creative labs 6.1 6700 speakers.
I have been trying to get it to work for surround sound but I am having a few issues.
Firstly I set the CMSS 3D on under the EAX console so that i can listen to music on all the speakers.
I am hoping that when I am watching a dvd though that it will overwrite this and play it as 5.1 surround.
However the problem I am having is with the rear centre speaker.
I had the switch on the back of the sub set to 5.1 / 6.1 so I would think that this meant the rear centre speaker would work if the dvd had 6.1 sound.
Is this the case, that only certain dvds have 6 channel sound support - or should all dvds now play proper 6 channel surround sound?
I have since switched the sub to 6.1 upmix - and the rear centre now works - but this is not true 6 channel sound as its just mixing the other two rear speakers.
Does anybody know if true 6.1 surround sound is actually possible? or is this upmix all there is?
Many thanks
David

What happened is when you installed the new itunes 7 it messed around with all of your files for the sound check and as a result when u are using sound check your speakers will not work correctly (I just fixed this problem). To fix it, simply go into the edit menu, then preferences and then click on the playback tab. In that tab the third box you can check off from the top should be sound check. Simply uncheck that box and you should be fine.
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Surround Sound (5.1) output built in to Mac Pros?

I have a new (2008) Mac Pro (Dual Quad 2.8GHz) processor. I connect my receiver to the digital out and have messed with all the setting to get surround sound out of it. In the audio setup it only keeps showing stereo speakers (5.1 is grayed out). I cannot find a clear answer (to me at least, pretty new to this).
Can i get surround sound (5.1) out of the Mac Pro *out of the box* for DVDs and Soundtrack Pro 2 ? If so where can i find the instructions to do it. If not, what do i need to do to get surround sound out of the Mac Pro?

Under preferances in DVD player if not mistaken there is an option you must set for Dolby digital to work, not 100% sure of this, will go look when I get home.
ABout the Mac's sound card.
The sound card build into the Mac is stereo ( 2 channels ) and will only deliver mono or stereo sound. Even if you use an adapter like the one I got with my Loictech speakers that allows you to connect all 5.1 speakers to the stereo output the sound will play through all speakers but it is not true surround.
The type of signal that is send to the digital output depends on the source, if you play a CD it will be PCM, if you play a DVD with Dolby Digital sound track it will be Dolby Digital. Your Amp / Receiver must have a Dolby Digital decoder to decode the signal. Dolby Digital can be 2 channels as well it is not always surround.
CD's are stereo, all though most amps / receivers got DSP's in which will play the music on all 5.1 speakers ( also not true surround ). Same goes for games.
Not sure if there are Apple games that are written for Dolby Pro logic and pro logic II, if there are they will be surround if you got a Pro logic / pro logic II decoder in your amp / receiver.
SACD / DVD Audio is multi channel - need SACD or DVD Audio player to play these. These players use 5.1 analog output, these can not be put out via digital output so with these players you need amp / receiver with 5.1 analog input.
If you where able to use M-Audio's PCI sound card in the Mac your music CD's will still be stereo or not true surround. Same with games unless the game have been written to take advantage of the sound card.
Hope this helps
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Audigy 2 ZS Surround Sound Problem - Please He

Hi, I have been using The Audigy 2 ZS sound card for over a year now, I have all the latest drivers installed and everything is updated.
My problem is, for some reason my 5. surround sound just stopped working. I did not change any of the settings, in creative settings or the control panel. All the cables and wires are plugged in to the correct spot. I checked the control panel and the creative speaker settings, and both are set at 5. surround sound. I have done the channel and noise tests with the speakers and I get sound in ALL of the speakers, yet when I try and play music through itunes and sound through games, it is only in the front left and front right speaker. Al lthe programs I have tested with have the 5. surround sound set in their options.
Like I said, the surround sound was working fine two days ago, and without changing any speaker settings or unplugging any cables, the surround sound stopped working.
I have looked through other threads trying to find a similar problem, but I did not turn up any good results. If you find any other threads that have a solution to this problem just link them and I will take a look at them (and sorry for the repeated thread).
Thank you for your time.
Edit: Anyone help? Message Edited by Cofer on 09-20-2006 09:07 PM

What happened is when you installed the new itunes 7 it messed around with all of your files for the sound check and as a result when u are using sound check your speakers will not work correctly (I just fixed this problem). To fix it, simply go into the edit menu, then preferences and then click on the playback tab. In that tab the third box you can check off from the top should be sound check. Simply uncheck that box and you should be fine.
Good Luck

Audigy 2 zs surround sound through dual channel headphones ?

< Hello,?
I've heard of virtual surround sound that the Audigy 2 zs can supposedly do. ?Does this mean that i can get surround sound out of regular dual channel headphones? i know it wont be true surround sound but the idea is that it will be something close to it right ?
if this is possible how do i set this up ?
thanks for your help!

What happened is when you installed the new itunes 7 it messed around with all of your files for the sound check and as a result when u are using sound check your speakers will not work correctly (I just fixed this problem). To fix it, simply go into the edit menu, then preferences and then click on the playback tab. In that tab the third box you can check off from the top should be sound check. Simply uncheck that box and you should be fine.
Good Luck

Surround Sound through optical on MacBook Pro 2011

So I've got this brand new MacBook Pro connected to my 5.1 surround sound home theatre system through optical, and I can only seem to get stereo sound out of it. I go through the Audio MIDI Setup and it always only shows 2 speakers and when I open up Left 4 Dead 2 it also only shows 2 speakers, any ideas on how I can get the surround sound working, I've been searching for awhile and haven't found anything, thanks?

Stereo has 2 channels, 5.1 surround sound has six channels total.
The Mac passes 5.1 through the optical cable/port.
The audio has to have a 5.1 encoding of some sort, Dolby, Logic etc.,
Your receiver has to be set to decode the 5.1 format being sent to it.
You can test this with a DVD that has extra sound capabilities in the audio menu, then match the encoding on the receiver.
Some 3D games provide surround sound on a Mac, but usually it's to a PC sound card that handles the processing. Since Mac doesn't do that, it just passes the surround sound through, the surround sound must be in a encoding format your receiver can understand.
Some good receivers can take Stereo 2 channel and separate out some of the frequencies and send them to the appropriate speaker, like the sub woofer and mid range. Then take the left and right channels and duplicate them for the front and rear left and right channels to fill a room with sound. However this isn't true surround sound as you won't hear objects moving up behind you or flying past over your head like in a good movie or video game with true surround sound abilities.
Your lucky I was here, not many people mess with surround sound on a Mac, or really don't even know it's there.
But it's really worth the effort, even iTunes music sounds great. A iPod sounds like crap in comparison.

Help Connecting my laptop to my 5.1 surround sound with optical Ca

Hi
I have recently bought a new hp 9667ea Laptop which has a express card slot. So also decided to buy the creative blaster x-fi xtreme audio note book sound card. I?want to connect my laptop to my surround sound using a optical cable.
So after days of messing about I cound get the sound to come out the card using the headphones supplied but not through my optical cable also when rebooting my laptop with the sound card in it would freeze my laptop and was unable to get a internet connection.
I since found out this card only supports 2. throught the optical cable.
Now what I am after is a card that supports 5. and I am able to connect to my surround sound using a optical cable?
I know creative are bring one out that support 7. will this also be compatible with my 5..
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Scott

I connect mine via XBox 360 using a program called uShare https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/UShare and it works brilliantly. However, I don't suppose you have an XBox or PS3, so you do actually have an option which is a VGA to HDMI converter. This is just one link I found for one http://www.amazon.co.uk/HDfury-1080P-HD … B000SOPWS8
It's fairly reasonable price, £57.80, I suppose if it works okay. You could always buy one and if it doesn't do what you want just send it back and get a refund.
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Disabling surround sound

Hey, I'm using newest Opera browser and newest Adobe Flash Player, however I bought surround speakers (5.1) like 3 years ago and I'm seriously addicted to non-surround sound on youtube/etc. - simply in the browser.
It really shocked me in the July, but I'm trying to fix it now.
Is there some way to disable it permanently ?
You could do that with messing in the Windows sound quality (16 bit, 48 000 hz - and all that sh*t), but I don't want that. I wanna fix it somewhat easily.
Thanks for responses, if any.

unfortunately, there are no listed switches you can use for audio output. i checked here: http://www.opera.com/docs/switches/

When song played with surround sound, vocals removed! :O

hi all, hope you can help.
first of all, why any1 would want to play music thats recorded/editted and mixed using 2 channels in surround sound is beyond me, but some people do, or even may do it accidentally.
i finished editting some songs the other day and sent them over to the guy putting them out, 1 song has the main vocal completely centered, no panning whatsoever, sounds fine through speakers/headphones, but if surround is activated, the vocals completely dissapear.
i think this has something to do with surround not playing what is mixed dead centered, but was wondering 1. why? and 2. if theres anything i can do as a quick fix without having to mess with the song too much, and 3. how would i avoid this in the future, without having to duplicate the track and pan each 25 each way?
:S
thanks for reading,
andy

thanks, maybe if i new abit more about surround that would help, i actually managed to recreate what was happening by oing into the mixer and clickin sum to mono on the vocals tracks (what does "summed" means in this context?).
ive come to the conclusion that whoever plays the tracks in surround isnt going to hear the main vocal, but i am really baffled by this as, as im sure you guys now how useful the centre channel remover function thingy for removing lead vocals, which suggests to me that a lot of music has the lead vocal completely centered, yet ive never heard any other song in surround that has had the lead vocal completely removed (admittedly if you mute the music track the vocal is there very, VERY slightly, but the difference is astonishing, i wish i could demonstrate it.
does any1 have any examples of a song which is effected in a similar way? or have you guys noticed this with your work (also, i recorded an entire album with aud 1.5 with lots of centered lead vocals and never had this problem).
thanks for llistening to me blab on.
maybe il never get my head round it.
andy

Maybe a possible solution to Mac analog surround sound?

wow-big title font. As I'm sure some of you know, we Mac users used to have a few options for analog surround sound. Sadly, those options are gone. However, I've tried something which sort of works okay-not a lot of options, and it's kinda kludgy, but it works. I don't work for the guy, so don't consider this an endorsement. Dr. Lex at www.dr-lex.be has written a CM2602 enabler for Mac OS X. What's that? you might ask, well, the CM2602 is the audio chip used in a couple of outboard USB sound cards for PC, and this little bit of software enables analog/coaxial output and lets the darn thing work with your mac. I'm using a Zalman ZM-RSSC
outboard USB box. Paid about $55 for it, but it does work. All you have to do is find out if there's the right chip in there, grab the software, follow his instructions, and it should work. However....I've found that messing around with the speaker settings doesn't work that well. Just set it to Use encoded Digital Audio and you will get sound. the only other solutions I know of are having a set of speakers with digital audio input ($$$) or some fancy Firewire boxes ($$) so this may be helpful to you
Good luck
John B

sorry folks, I spoke too soon-I shut down my Mac pro, and then started it up today, and...nothing....the usb device is gone...I guess it doesn't stay, I'm guessing I have to reboot my Mac Pro, then plug in the usb device, then mess around with Audio Midi setup...again...
again, I'm sorry-I thought it was a permanent solution, but now I'm kinda embarrassed
I'll have to wait until I get an email from Dr. Lex and see what he says. Of course, it may be that 10.6.8 might have fudged things up-that's been known to happen, alas. My FireWave used to work fine with Tiger and Leopard, then after that....
jb

Is it even possible to edit surround sound on a Mac Pro?!?!?!

Hello,
I've just been reading this thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2924869?
Which among many things discusses the fact that Mac Pros, even through an optical cable, are not capable of exporting live 5.1 audio - they can only playback already encoded 5.1 dolby audio from DVD's for example. Apparently the optical out is a purely stereo affair otherwise. I've finally received my Logitech 5450 speakers (took weeks and weeks) and hooked them up. They can indeed playback 5.1 from a DVD, which is splendid. However, one of the things I was most looking forward to was working on surround mixes in Soundtrack Pro. However, firstly STP doesn't want to convert stereo files into surround (like the video online showed), but only means that the surround panner pans between the two front speakers. (I know there's another thread about that, but the proposed solution of adjusting the collapse slider does nothing).
Secondly, and perhaps more confusingly, if I load an actual 5.1 file from the STP content, it still doesn't play in proper surround - the centre speaker kind of works and I think something's rumbling through the subwoofer, but both of the left speakers and right speakers are 'compressed' into the front one alone - nothing comes out of the rear speakers (they are perfectly connected I assure you!). In other words, f I move the puck in the surround panner so it's solely on the front right, and then over to the rear right, it's exactly the same (coming out the front).
I'm sure there must be a solution. Why would Apple advertise the ease with which one can now mix surround if the Mac Pro (I'm not exactly talking about a mac mini here) cannot export live 5.1?
Something which I'm sure is related, but which I can't solve, is that if I go into Audio MIDI setup in Utilities, and try and 'Configure Speakers', only two channels are recognised, and it won't let me select any of the multichannel options (such as 5.1, which is greyed out.)
Anyone know what I'm going on about? I'm totally lost - not really an audio person in general, but hoping to enrich my short films with some surround magic.
Any help greatly appreciated!
Steve
Mac Pro Mac OS X (10.4.8)
Mac Pro Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Typically 5.1 is mixed, and monitored on a 5.1 monitoring system, which means you need an audio interface and setup capable of outputting six channels of audio.
So of course the Mac Pro is capable, but not without additional multi-channel playback and monitoring hardware.
Encoded surround sound, which you hear on playback from things like a DVD, is entirely different story and the encoding is done at the end of the mixing/mastering process. Sometimes you will encode a mix in a variety of formats, Dolby Pro Logic, DTS etc.

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