My Vision M Has Fro

Hi
I would really apppreciate some help. I've had my 30gb Vision M for a couple of months and everything has been great. It has frozen a couple of times but I used the reset button and everthing was fine.
The problem lies with the last time it froze I used the reset and as it was powering up, it became frozen on the ZEN screen. It has also frozen the cursor and all the function buttons. Resetting doesn't do any good it continually freezes on the same screen.
I have tried accessing the reformat and clean up options, I can get to the screen but because everything has frozen I am unable to make a selection.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated as I'm at a loss about what to do.
Thank you for any help or advice.
PyreMessage Edited by Pyre on 07-02-200706:26 PM

Did you try to put it in recovery mode?

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 This is what any music device should be about right? Nothing else matters if the sound quality stinks. I used to own Creative?s Zen Micro. The sound on it was great but the bass was lacking. The best sounding mp3 player I?ve ever owned was Iri'ver?s old H20. With its customizable SRS settings, it still stands out against all others I have encountered. If that Iri'ver was the best, I am happy to say that this little device is a very close second. Creative included a bass boost function, and paired with the customizable EQ settings, the sound is amazing. It knocks the micro out of the ballpark.
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 Creative has built a host of features in this thing as they do with a lot of their players. The FM radio is good and the voice recorder is good. Now lets get to the good stuff. The Vision:m actually lets you choose your own background. Not only that, but for the picture you do decide to use, its lets you edit its brightness and color tone. This feature definitely comes in handy. I selected a nice picture of me and my son at the town fair, and it was way to bright. The letters on the screen were hard to read no matter what theme I used. Upon selecting a picture to use as background, the player gives you the option to raise or lower its brightness and color tone. I lowered the brightness and changed the tone and now, the background looks great. Creative should have gone that extra mile and gave the player the ability randomly select a new background every day.
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 I have got to give creative its pro
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 Creative, I say this with the best intentions not to be taken the wrong way. You guys need to scrap the current beta software and go back to the drawing board. Do you guys even realize the potential you have with ZCO? First off, when using the sync organizer, it works, but it can't handle video. It is ridiculously slow when handling video. The syncing software in explorer works a lot better. And then ZCO doesn?t show all of the podcasts available on ZenCast. It brings up internet explorer. What you guys need to do, is go back to the drawing board and design software that expertly organizes my entire media library with extreme simplicity. Have a section for music, pictures, video, and zen/pod casts. The Music section can have the option of connecting to an online music store, the video section can have the option of connecting to an online video store, and the ZenCast, to to the Zencast website, where you can easily subscribe to any zencast without bringing up the browser.
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I have only noticed two bugs with this player. It seems that the Vision:m has an obsessi've compulsi've need to display album art for every song played. Even songs with no album art associated with them. Since my library is organized by genre and not by album, the player simply picks another album art from the folder ad displays that art for a song with no album art. Creative please fix this because its annoying. Also, one almost unnoticeable bug. The ?song time? count at the bottom of the progress indicator in the ?Now Playing? screen seems to have a hard time counting seconds in some songs. Its too slow and eventually catches up. Then counts regularly, and speeds p again. At first I thought the problem was with VBR mp3?s but it does it with regular 28 kbit rates.
Overall Creative has built a very good player and is currently the best out there. I was a fan of the micro and am now A HUGE fan of this one. This player has yet to crash since I have had it, considering that the micro crashed 3 times by this point of my having one. In fact, this looks to be the most stable player I?ve owned as well. I want to personally thank the Creative development for making a player so superior to anything else out there and at such a competiti've price. I will stomp for your company and brand every chance I get. But You have to meet me half way. Outside the Geek world, your brand is barely recognized. You need to set up a huge base of operations in the US and heavily promote your brand. Not just in magazines and one or two city billboards, but on constant TV commercials, get some music artists on TV promoting your player. Come on guys, really show Apple that you are serious about taking them on. I realize that this costs money to do, but you have to spend money to make money right?
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- make a main menu option for Zen cast. This shouldn?t be in the video folder.
- Add the ability to browse by title in the Genre folder.
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- USB On the Go would be a nice addition as well
- Add the ability to randomly select a new background from a pre selected group of photos every time the player is turned on or each day.
- SRS if possible. It sounds wonderful on other players.
- Make side scroll pad buttons to be used for navigating menu system.
- A small game or two wouldn?t hurt, but add more coolness to it.
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wow, very nice review Makes me want to get a vision for myself.
WebKnight wrote:

Add the ability to randomly select a new background from a pre selected group of photos every time the player is turned on or each day.
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Attachments:
cpu_load.png ‏267 KB
disk_load.png ‏233 KB

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