N8-00 and Belle Refresh

Hello, i was wondering when the "Belle Refresh" update will be available for N8-00 059D607 devices.

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Hello, i was wondering when the "Belle Refresh" update will be available for N8-00 059D607 devices.
Your Italian N8-00 is a Country Variant and the Belle refresh update is subject to local/regional approval. You may try and contact your local Nokia Care for more information.
Ray.

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Nokia 500 and Belle Refresh: browser issues.

Greetings.
The Belle Refresh was indeed a welcome refresh for this low-to-midrange phone. However, there is a serious issue with the browser.
With the update to Qt 4.8, you inherited QtWebKit, an amazing browser I know very well. In a desktop, it's fast, although it eats more memory than Firefox. However, in a cell phone like the 500, with limited amounts of RAM, this browser freezes the phone, due to the lack of memory. I'm also sure this browser can and will break phones with more memory and Belle FPx, since I've made QtWebKit use more than 1 GB of RAM in a computer running KDE.
There is a way to avoid this, called "user agent". Opera Mobile avoids this scenario by telling pages through user agent "hey, don't be hard on me, I'm browsing this from a cell phone", and pages adjust themselves to that scenario. However, you didn't tweak the user agent in your browser.
If you add no user agent tweaking, full HTML5 support, Flash Lite support (the much higher specced iPhone 4S doesn't support Flash), and low memory, you get a nightmare scenario.
1. The webpages send their complete, full featured DESKTOP versions to my Nokia 500.
2. QtWebKit supports everything, so, it makes a faithful attempt to properly render the page, even with Flash apps.
3. Nokia 500 has only 70-80 MB of RAM free for apps to use.
4. Boom.
Can you release a hotfix for Belle Refresh, changing the user agent of Nokia Browser to something that can trigger the mobile version of web pages? In that scenario, QtWebKit will eat much less memory and everyone will be happy. And please, can you do this for everyone using Belle Refresh?

I can confirm serious browser issues with the Belle refresh on a C6-01 device. The crash is so severe that only taking out the battery helps. It typically occurs when scrolling larger, feature-rich (and image-rich) webpages, so far I've seen this only on mobile connections (Edge, Umts), but that may be due to lack of testing with WLAN. (Where I've got WLAN I've usually a more powerful device as well..

Questions on FP1, FP2, Belle Refresh and availabil...

Hello,
First things first: Note that my post is not intended to ask when Belle Refresh will be available for my phone. I have been reading a lot about this topic, on this and many other forums, and know by now that I need to be patient and wait for Belle Refresh to be available for my Nokia N8-00.
My questions are:
Among the many things I read, one caught me completely off-guard. It stated that Belle Refresh might be discontinued for older phones like the N8 because of the many hardware limitations, the many reported issues and the complexity of the deployment for the many different product codes. Is there any truth to it?
Can someone please explain what the FP1, FP2 and Belle Refresh features are, what the release sequence is, and why these updates have not been released simply as "Symbian Belle updates" and identified by a sequential software version number?
Lately, I have noticed that there are more and more apps for Symbian "disappearing" from the Store. I noticed this when I tried to reinstall a home-banking application after a full phone-reset/reinstall and I was not able to find that app on the Store anymore. The Store's support was not able to help and recommended to contact the software provider. So I did. Their answer was pretty straightforward: "We are not developing applications for Symbian anymore because it's an obsolete and unsupported platform." (sic) Other software development companies gave me similar answers (anyone can contact and ask Soft Pauer, a company that develops a Formula 1 app. This company is the official software provider for "Formula One World Championship Limited" and disregarded the Symbian platform as a target for the official Formula 1 mobile app last year). My question: Has anyone in this forum also heard something like this? If so, why is Nokia telling us they will support and promote Symbian until 2014?
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The Nokia Belle Refresh was just released about a week ago or so. So, even if there is indeed Nokia Belle FP2 Refresh or whatsoever for these phones, it might take (Probably) months for it to released. In anyhow, we will never know when will it released or even if there IS Nokia Belle FP2 for Nokia 500 or older.
If I have helped you in any way, give me a kudos!

N8-00 (Belle Refresh) vs. Fiat Blue&Me pairing pro...

Hello there,
Fiat, Alfa Romeo and Lancia cars has Microsoft Mobile based Bluetooth audio setup.
http://www.blueandme.net/blueandme/index.aspx
Once you pair your BT connection with Blue&Me, you can call and accept calls via the car. But, my N8-00 (Belle & Belle refresh) has a problem with Blue&me. Most of the times, N8 can not be paired with the car, even the Blue&Me set as authorised. A system application called "Sharing" prevents to pairing and phone become unresponsive. I have to manually force to close the "Sharing" application. Then I have to manually force to pair with Blue&Me. But in the next time I get in the car, I have to the same again.
I tried other N8-00's at the company, it is the same situation in all of them.
The firmwares on N8-00's are Belle, and Belle refresh. And Blue&Me has the latest version on it.
Looking forward for a reply,

Still no Belle refresh?

It's been months now and Belle refresh is still not available for my product, my product code is 059D0V2 and I still have 111.030.0609 firmware version!!!! Any updates at all?

There isn't a lot this forum can do for you regarding the availability of the Refresh update. You can however try contacting Nokia care in North America to check if the update will be released for your N8.
Ray.

E6-00: what's wrong with Belle refresh (and other ...

I've been following this forum and have always been up-to-date with E6-00 firmware. I've been almost happy with Belle and was expecting hardly the Belle refresh version for the Music player upgrade. What I got was - ? I don't know. Just the new version and no instant visible change. However... :
- the Music Player is the same. Meaning, no song search and still ridiculous user interface
- the phone tries to establish the data connection quite often even if no application is open
- the phone is hardly responsive from time to time (while looking for the network connection)
- the phone does not want to connect to the wifi. Restart helps.
- the phone loses the network operator and does not reconnect. Happened once (when roaming). Restart helps immediately.
- the Microsoft Apps: pursued upgrade. I personally do not need them. The screen is simply to small to use them effectively.
- (not a complaint) the battery life: I think the battery life is not really affected by the OS. Those complaining about shorter battery life should check how much time they spend using the phone, being connected to wifi, etc.
I'm very disappointed with the E6-00. I try to keep it positive but it keeps me down with every (new) issue. Does anyone has advice what to do with upper mentioned issues? I bought the phone ~2 months after it was available. I'm assuming that these first production series can have hardware issues? My phone was on reparation twice: for the notification light (hardware thing) and bluetooth issues (voice not heard over the bluetooth headset). The latter is still present I think...
I consider buying E71 since there's no other good (Nokia) phone on the market. What makes me sad the most is that my iPod touch does wifi connection and other things smoothlessly... But I don't want an iPhone (which is in principle the same as iPod touch), I just want a good Nokia.
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strelamcqueen:
I agree with your post except for the fact that Belle hosed my E6. Meaning: if you look at all my other posts, it's all about the GPS data functions that were awesome with the E71 then went away with the E6 on Anna. At least with Anna, there was an app called LeGPSData2 that restored most of the E71 GPS functionality. LeGPSData2 is not compatible with Belle. Sooo, I am currently using my E6 ONLY because of the decent camera.
Belle made the UI look pretty but that's it. I found the same problems with the responsiveness that you mentioned and issues with not connecting to my home wifi when I try to browse the net at home. There's nothing like downloading a bunch of big files only to discover that I've chewed up a bunch of data because the phone didn't connect to wifi. I put the wifi widget on one of my home screens and I make sure that I manually connect to wifi now before starting the browser. The Microsoft app via the upgrade were a joke. They actually took over Quick Office so that Excel and Word opened with MS Office Mobile. This would be fine but they open so tiny they are unreadable and they are not editable with MS Office Mobile for some reason. I removed the MS apps immediately.
My battery life suffered a lot after Belle refresh. With normal use as before the upgrade I would get home with about 50% battery with 3G ON. With Belle refresh, The battery won't make it through a full day with 3G on and I end up with about 25% battery at the end of the day with 3G off. Good thing I don't use much data through the day!
This is actually my second E6; long story but the first I upgraded to Belle and was disappointed with the loss of LeGPSData2 app. This one I was forced to upgrade to Belle refresh because while updating Ovi Maps one night, the update completely deleted the Ovi Maps app and I could not get it back without updating the OS to Belle refresh.
So I am with you. I too am very disappointed with the E6 but most of my disappointment comes from the software 'upgrades'. If Nokia would just leave well enough alone, all would be fine. I am sorry I have no advice to take care of the problems you and I are facing. I am in search of a new phone now and if I don't downgrade to an E72, I won't be getting a Nokia again. It's a sad story because I have been a die hard Nokia fan for a long time.
DS
@adrianhughes:
HUH? stelamcqueen is asking advice from other USERS. That's what the forum is about.

USA, Belle Refresh, and N8

I have an N-8, product code:
059C8T6
I'm trying to get Belle Refresh on it. I live in the US, and bought it here unlocked..... I'm on AT&T at the moment.
Nokia's site is showing that the software version should be 111.040.1511.
I'm showing 111.030.0609... and no software updates in Nokia Suite, or on the phone.
I'm not sure if I'm just not going to be able to get it, but knowing would be nice.

The OP and other North American users are not asking for any "new" update to the N8 than is already available to many (most?) N8 users around the world. I'm in the same boat - have an N8 with Symbian Belle, but not the Belle Refresh. Would like for Nokia to publish the update to US users.
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Since I installed the Belle refresh on my N8 the backup of Nokia Suite 3.5.34 has difficulties to safe Documents.
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And unfortunately 808 PureView still has a bug they introduced with Symbian Belle - bluetooth connection with some hands-free car devices do not work correctly, eg. with Bury CC9045 V04. You do not hear the first incoming call, need to drop it and wait for a second call.
Apart from above, it is a great phone!

Nokia N8 Belle Refresh

Here in New Zealand I upgraded my Nokia N8 to from Belle to Belle Refresh today (Product Code 0598797 - Chinese).
1) Nokia Suite was full of information about what the upgrade would do.
2) Nokia Suite also told me what I could lose, and suggested that some Apps may be lost.
3) The upgrade proceeded smoothly, well within the 30 minutes or so it suggested it may take, and restarted the phone.
4) It came up with the default colours and default number of home screens, and in Chinese. A quick couple of taps to put it back into English, and then around ten minutes to re-instate my home screens, shortcuts, and widgets, and voila, an upgraded phone.
5) It seems smoother, snappier in the Browser, and an improved set of features within the music player.
6) the Space on C: has improved by around 28MB.
Well done Nokia. This is so appreciated for a phone that had the first generation of Symbian ^3.
I travel a lot with my business, and nowadays take just the N8, as I find it's camera sufficient for my needs. When I go somewhere exotic I take my HD VideoCam of course, and my SLR, but in general the N8 does what I want. Coming back home, it's simply plugin via HDMI and show my family the pics. On my Travel, the GPS, both Drive and Walk is a God-send, and very reliable.
Having watched the saga of Nokia mishandle the Symbian "burning platform" intentions, by prematurely announcing it's death, and then killing off Meego just as it started to show some ability in at least shoring up the share price and retaining Nokia market share for another twelve months, I started to become doubtful about Nokia's ability to survive.
I nearly bought a Pureview 808 but decided to wait, and being in the IT industry, I knew it would be crazy to go for a Win 7 Lumia product. Having seen the specs on the Lumia 920, I am confident that if I wait for a succesor to the Lumia 920, there might be a phone worth having.
I love HDMI, I love the removable micro SD-Card, and I use both a lot. Any phone without these N8 features would be retro-grade!
So Nokia, when you bring out a Lumia with all the hardware features you have taught me to love on my Symbian, then I will upgrade. But in the meantime, you did such a good job with the N8, and Nokia Belle, that I am confident it will last until you do bring out a phone that really is an upgrade.
Kudos for Nokia Belle Refresh in the meantime - you have bought some brand loyalty for the Interim.

Having sold my Lumia I bought 808 PureView, owned previously N8. In my view, Symbian Belle is a great system, much better than Windows Phone and you do not need to sacrifice your privacy as much as with WP. The only one thing I wish Nokia could improve, is the speed of reading emails, web browsing and installation of apps from Ovi Store. I do not know why it still so slow as 808 PureView has double fast processor clock compared to N8?
And unfortunately 808 PureView still has a bug they introduced with Symbian Belle - bluetooth connection with some hands-free car devices do not work correctly, eg. with Bury CC9045 V04. You do not hear the first incoming call, need to drop it and wait for a second call.
Apart from above, it is a great phone!

Massive power drain after Belle Refresh update on ...

Hello
From being a minor annoyance the massive power drain from my N8 after Belle Refresh update is now a big problem!
The battery does not even last a full day now
No apps running - power save on, but to no avail.
After advice from Nokia Support I've tried to reinstall Belle Refresh again from Nokia Suite, but it didn't make a difference.
What else can be done? Is it possible to uninstall Belle Refresh completely?
Some have suggested it is because of the weather widget. Any confirmation from Nokia on that issue?

I have Belle refresh for over a month now and I keep running the weather widget permanently on first screen. Overall the power consumption is the same as before on Anna (I skipped the first Belle incarnation).
The only particular thing here is that I flashed clean the full 111.40.1511 version for my phone language. All I can tell is that in the first days after flashing the power drain was significant, merely because of intense phone usage, part of various customizations or just by curiosity. Since then the power consumption has slowly came back to "normal" for my daily usage habits.
Currently running widgets: clock, profile, weather, next coming event, BBC feed, WiFi, 3G, data usage counter, Nokia Battery Monitor, locations near me. Also Nokia Sleeping Screen is active. I gave up in using email widgets because I only use IMAP manual fetch mode and in this mode they are completely useless.
Cristi

Nokia E7, music player? Symbian belle Refresh.

Sorting problem.
Examplle, i had 5 song from Jennifer Lopez, they are from the same album named 'Love?' In the music player shows 2 'Love?' album.
They are from the same CD.
P.s. This website ---->
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Hi Mushroomlolz,
Sounds like a problem with metadata in the music files. I recall this happening to me also when upgrading from Symbian Anna to Nokia Belle. The way the metadata of music files is handled differently in Nokia Belle and Nokia Belle Refresh, therefore you will need to locate the offending files and use an advanced ID3 / metadata tag editor on your PC to edit the metadata tag information so it will display correctly on your device.

Youtube issue with Belle refresh

Invalid parameters,that's what I got after installing nokia belle refresh on my N8.
tried to do a hard reset,but doesn't work
Moderator's note: Mentioning of illegal third party software removed.
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Here is the solution: For thos who uses a negative GMT ,like me (Argentina -3 GMT) , will need to change for a positive GMT ,like Germany +2 GMT, then go to youtube with your native browser, see how works, and finally go back to your previous GMT.
PS: Luxintosh was the provider of this solution. (from another forum)

Re: N8-00 Belle Refresh

Hi there,
We are located in the Boston area, USA, carrier is T-Mobile.
Question: Are we going to be able to update to "Belle Refresh" ?
When checking for updates, we are told that we are "updated",
however, when looking the Device Manager, it tell us that
Latest Update was not updated...\
Other info that may help situating our phone software:
-> Software Version: 11.030.0609
-> Software Version Date: 2011-11-26
Thank you for your attention.

I am in USA too, with an N8, 700, and 701. Seems a lot of N8's worldwide didn't get the refresh. Conjecture has been that updating all the phones was too much trouble and too expensive, especially given Nokia's abandonment of Symbian. Reading some of discussions, I gather many people are upset. Nokia didn't give fp1 or fp2 to the 700 and 701 devices either , notwithstanding the promises to do so. Bad business.
N86 8mp: RM-485,0590552; Version 20.115 - 6/29/2009. - -- E71-2; RM-357; 0569371; Version 100.07.76 - 6/08/2008.
N8; N900

When Nokia Belle Refresh for N8 branded by 3 ITA o...

When Nokia Belle Refresh for N8 branded by 3 ITA operator?
I still cannot see the update in NOkia Suite.
Thanks

You should call your operator because Nokia releases the update for operator to authorise and push the updates out to their user's.
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