N97 vs N97 Mini vs 5800

Hi all, First time posting on here. Have had a look through various threads and can't find a similar one. I have an N97 (Vodafone, Ireland, FW 21.0.045) and like many people am driven mad by the GPS. It's the usual problems - phone takes ages to get a signal which is then jumpy and inaccurate or else just about 500 metres behind me all the time, which isn't much use! From what I've read online I gather this is a hardware problem. Brought it to a Nokia Service Centre in Dublin but they just did an "internal software update" which appears to be to the same version it was on. My wife has a 5800 and the GPS is excellent on that compared to mine. Quick signal fix and retains it once it has a signal! My question: Does the N97 Mini suffer similar problems as the N97 on GPS? Is my better bet to keep returning the N97 to service centre until it works, or should I "downgrade" to the N97 Mini and sacrifice whatever losses there are (battery life and FM transmitter from what I can see)? Does GPS work fine (ideally as good as the 5800) on an N97 Mini in general, or does it have its own list of problems? Any advice much appreciated, thanks!

Nokia released a new cover for the back of the n97 with a better GPS receiver, its the same cover that does not scratch the lens. Go get that. It should be free, but I hear some Care Centers charge for it.
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N97 or N97 mini?

Im planing to buy a phone but dont know which to choose. As i know, the functions for both n97 n n97 mini is actually same. The different between them is the size, keyboard and fm transmitter i think. Any one can suggest which one i worth to buy? Im interested in n97 mini because of the improvement on the keyboard design but it took off the fm transmitter. Any one can suggest me? Thanks..

I am very happy with my N97 and prefer it to N97 mini, a work colleague just got one (Vodafone sent it as a substitute for N97 he had ordered) I helped him set it up, and found the smaller onscreen keypad less 'fat finger' friendly, and obviously, if media is a priority then the extra storage and bigger screen are favourable. I know there are many bad reports on N97, but you tend to find people go to forums with problems and complaints, not to praise phones. That's not to say there are no problems with the phone, but you will find problems on any forum for any make or model. I've been very lucky with my handset, I've spent many hours using it, adding apps, music, films etc and it is by far THE BEST PHONE I'VE EVER HAD !
Nokia tend to improve phones with software updates (N95 8Gig got better and better) and the N97 is already much better with V2.0. You pays your money and makes your choice, if you want minimal problems, get a really simple basic handset, if you want a really clever and entertaining smartphone I love my N97. Iphone aint perfect, omnia isn't and new sony ericcson has its faults, but the more complex a machine the more chance of problems !
Hope you enjoy whatever you choose.
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How to fix your Nokia N97 and N97 mini

Hi al
As my previous post was deleted by the moderators here is a quick overview of how to resolve many issues with your Nokia N97 or N97 mini.
You like myself maybe having issues with freezes, applications not working properly, rebooting, home screen disappearing etc.
This I have found is due to Nokias firmware being modified by companies like 3 mobile/optus/telstra vodaphone etc. they modify the software to suit their requirmeents , but in the process cause issues with the software so it stops the phone from working properly.
To remedy this. Take the phone to your telco/mobile phone network operator and ask for them to authorise Nokia to update the firmware on your phone. once this permission is given you take it to Nokia and they will update the software with the correct version of the firmware for that phone.
Once this is done you should see no more issues with the phone and it should work well. Removing the original carriers "version" of the software seems to fix it, but you must have written permission from your carrier to Nokia to do this.
Cheers
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The only way to go back to the old software has been described for you. It is not officially sanctioned by Apple. They do not provide a way to go back to former software. There is not currently a fix in iTunes, as the only thing iTunes does is provide a conduit for you to update firmware.
As provided before, Apple is addressing the issues with 3G and 3GS phones running slow with iOS4. According to developers with access to the iOS4.1 beta, it has been addressed there. You will have to either try the Genius bar as suggested, and I understand the distance issue, or you will have to wait for iOS4.1 to be released. If a restore as a new phone and a DFU restore do not work, then I'm not aware of any other alternative except what was provided above.
Edit: You might try and delete the iOS that you have on the computer and let iTunes download a brand new one. That might help.
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N97 v N97 mini

Has anyone who had the original n97 downgraded to the mini (or is it an upgrade?)
Can you let us know how it performs?
Current Devices:
N900, N97, 5800 & iPhone.
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jimmyireland wrote:
there is no card slot to start with have a look here
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n97_mini_previewed_ahead_of_launch_fails_to_impress-news-1088.php
No card slot? MicroSD:
http://www.nokia.co.uk/find-products/all-phones/nokia-n97-mini/specifications
expandable to 24gig (with a 16gig card)
Also, I can't seem to find anything suggesting the OS flash (c and available RAM are any larger than the N97? 512Meg? dunno.. don't think so though
It's a smaller N97, with out a camera shutter and without a "Select" button as it doesn't have a joy pad.. And only has 8gig of flash (rather than 32)
Not a great phone, but neither is the N97 to be fair
Actually it does have twice the flash.. a no FM transmitter as mentioned above.. the lack of c: flash on the N97 is laughable.. it's like booting Windows XP from a floppy disk.. The update will make it more stable and less joke worthy..
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N97 and opera mini beta 5

Just installed opera mini beta 5 and it is a fantastic piece of software, the onyl problem I have is it will only connect using my contract wap and not through my home wifi, I have the N97 set up for all other internet applications to always ask. Anyone know how to resolve?

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Firmware BUG in N97 and N97 mini!

qwerty keypad lights up in landscape mode when slider closed. Why?
It unloads Batteries.

same thing happens in mine.
open it just the tiny little bit and you can quite clearly see the keyboard light is on, but it doesn't happen in portrait mode.
doesn't look like a fault either, just the way it is built.
thanks for pointing this out, i use landscape all the time
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N97 (and general S60 v5 - 5800, etc) iphone style ...

Howdy all!
k, this post has two purposes. first of all, i'm wondering if anyone knows a good iphone-style conversation app (c'mon, you know it's the only thing they have over us, we all want one) that integrates well with the built in "new message" pop up thing?
second of all i'd like to raise awareness of http://betalabs.nokia.com/apps/conversation
this is an app developed by nokia for S60 v3. would you like nokia to develope an S60 V5 version? if so either post here, or sign in to beta labs, (same user name and password as for this) and put yourself as a follower. bring this issue to the attention of nokia!
Solved!
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hmmm... i've found a trial version of the 1.08 (it won't sync all your mesages into the app unless you buy it n there are a couple of other limitations... not sure what), am having a bit of a play with it at the mo. considering buying it, but it's still anoying! this is something nokia should include as standard! grr...
P.S. it is a near perfect emulation of the iphone aproach, cheers
P.P.S. http://www.gczm.net.cn/download/FreeiSMS_AllInOne_v1.08_Final_Signed.sisx for anyone else interested in downloading it. to buy a licence you can google it, i'm lazy... also i'm a student at uni, so reluctant to fork out for this (yes, it's only a tenner... but it just don't feel right...)

Update on N97 V30, N97 mini V20

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He also said that the phone is more stable and some extra apps are available... No changelog btw!
 
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it only updates your apps that you have currently installed on the phone. the nokia messaging update i believe came out with all the others today or so. check it again refresh it and see if it has changed.
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Cannot enter URL and text in Opera Mini on 5800

I installed Opera Mini and it works, but I cannot enter any URL.
Clicking on the URL does not popup the onscreen keypad.
How do you enter text on Opera Mini ?
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Is the version of Opera supported on the S60 5th edition? That may be an issue.
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N97 mini further updates (udates after v12.0.110)?...

Since jul 2010 n97 mini has recieved no updates .... many apps in it are now outdated like
1. music player
2. browser.
3. top apps dont work.
4. no interface improvement... like slow ks
5. etc...etc..
all other phone like my dads 5800 xm has recieved about 3 new updates.... all bringing improvement to the phone.....
please Nokia do something...
and i request a honest reply by a Nokia person on this post pls... also the tentative dates for update...

If you want a reply from Nokia then you have to ask Nokia, not post a question on a forum populated by other users of Nokia products like yourself.
The general consensus among users here is, however, that the N97 and N97 mini are abandoned products. They've not been updated since July and August 2010 respectively.
On the other hand, I did recently see a page on a Nokia site saying that some piece or other of software that they were pushing did require PR2.x (V2x) on the N97 mini and PR3.x (V3x) on the N97 to work correctly. Would Nokia be releasing software that will never run on phones because the required firmware will never be released? It would be a bit stupid, although I wouldn't put it past them.
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Nokia Experience (N97 and 5800)

About two weeks ago I was in the market for new a new cell phone...being an AT&T user I decided to go unlocked instead of buying a subsidised phone. After searching the net I gave up and went to a cell phone "boutique" store here in Washington DC which specialize in unlocked phones. This place came highly recomended so I gave them a try. I went into the store to find that there was a lot of Nokia advertisement in the store. In the past I haven't dealt with nokia much. I told the salesman what I was looking for and he first tried to sell me an IPhone but at $800 unlocked I passed. I then told him that I was also looking for a phone for my girlfriend. I have big fingers so I needed a keyboard...long story short I left the store with an N97 for myself and a 5800 for my GF.
I should have done more research on Nokia and not just listen to the salesman.
The first few days were great then came an update for the N97 and things seemed wonderful. But things started going south for both phones. Since the 5800 belonged to my GF and ultimately caused me the most grief we'll start with that one.
5800:
My GF uses the phone for three things...talking, texting and facebook. The phone is untouched outside of the latest updates and adding the Facebook app. Every so often the phone will freeze after a phone call, she is usually around me when this happens and she just throws the phone at me and says fix it. The Facebook app is useless and doesn't come close to any other Facebook app out there (I hear it constantly). The web browser will shut down on it's own for no reason. She has like 1000 friends literally and she find scrolling through her contacts annoying and the search function is not always helpful. There are many other little small glitches that she complains about and I have to hear and feel the results...thans Nokia.
I use the N97 myself. I got it because it has the Keyboad and I am a DJ and have tons of music that I like to carry with me. After a couple of days of use and a couple of app installs..the phone became slow(er). Switching from landscape to portrait and back would cause the phone to stop and think for a second (or two). The phone wants to go to landscape when some one call, this a very annoying and gets in the way. I have almost 30 gb of music and phonos in the phone and I will say that digging through them is painful to say the least...why can the photos be place in folders in the gallery? The nokia browser does the samething that the 5800 does with the shutting down problem. The alarm clock is off by several minutes. My phones randomly freezes for no apparent reason.
After searching the web I stumbled across this forum and started reading the many topic...wow I am not alone. Many people are having the same issues and it looks like these issues have been around for some time. Isn't this a Nokia forum? Do they even read this forum? How could these phone go through several updates and still have the same annoying problems? All I can say is WOW. Before the is Phone I had a Blackberry and it too had its bugs when it came out but in subsequent updates the bugs went away. I have heard the same for other smarthpones. Being a first time Nokia user, this left a foul taste in my mouth. I call the store to complain and they are willing to cut me a deal on any other phone they sell since my Nokia experience has been less than favorable.
Sorry for the long rant...I didn't come here to vent, I actually came for advice. Before I go and return these phone and lay down even more money, please tell me that there is a light at the end of this tunnel. You guys have more experience with Nokia's than I do and I am willing to listen to your advice in this matter...should I stay or should I leave? HELP!!!

Okey, thanks. Nice to know!

N97 mini firmware update seriously needed

hi all,
Its been ages of waiting for a new update for the N97 and N97 mini, one which would do at least the following:
(1) better UI
(2) new and better browser with the latest flash support
(3) freer space on the RAM
(4) a social app for IM like facebook, twitter, myspace e.t.c
(5) smileys in our Instant messaging (fed up with words like smileysad)
(6) a UI that wouldnt use up batteries so fast
skyee and other nokia staff, thanks for speaking up atleast i must acknowlegde you for confirming that there will be an update. But as you said for chat 2.5 and the firmware update its till further notice. Please give heed to our plight and give us specific date and schedule as you have done for PR 1.1 & 1.2 for symbian ^3 devices.
Each day i browse through all threads to hear pleasing and helpful news about the firmware update for N97 mini & N97. Please we are loyal customers begging for your support.
Solved!
Go to Solution.

OK friends, last Sunday once again I went to the customer care and told them about my homescreen problems they didn't care me. They Switch off and on again my phone gave it to me and said ur problem is solved.
They doesn't try to understand me.
Suddenly I got angry and fought with them. On the spot I pictured them and forward my complaint to the nokia' with in two days nokia officials contact me ask me about the problem and help me to solve that problem.
After that I'm not saw that problem again in my phone.
so if you have any serious problem pls forward your mails directly to the nokia.

N97 (not mini) - Microphone not working

I have a Nokia N97 (not a mini) and the microphone has abruptly stopped working properly. I first noticed it 2 days ago (the day before that, the phone was working fine). Basically, when I speak to someone on the phone, I have to raise my voice quite a bit to be heard - people on the other end of the line have advised me that I sound faint, they can hardly hear me, or it sounds like I'm calling from a distance.
The issue with the microphone does not change whether the call is outgoing or incoming and it doesn't seem to make a difference whether I use the phone normally or on loudspeaker.
I haven't dropped the phone or done any damage to it - certainly not in the last 48 or so hours that would explain the sudden microphone issue! I also haven't updated anything or downloaded anything. My use of the phone over the last few weeks has been normal (phone calls & text messages mostly), but minimal.
Would this likely be a hardware or a firmware/software issue??
I've tried searching for a similar topic but am coming up with zilch - any help would be greatly appreciated!

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Software v12.0.110 released for N97 mini...

Where is changelog? I think nothing changed!
Menu stuck when the app icons more than 20! Autorotate display works with drunk man! System stuckingggg! System software is **bleep**!
Just upgraded ovi softs! Nothing! Argh!

If you want a reply from Nokia then you have to ask Nokia, not post a question on a forum populated by other users of Nokia products like yourself.
The general consensus among users here is, however, that the N97 and N97 mini are abandoned products. They've not been updated since July and August 2010 respectively.
On the other hand, I did recently see a page on a Nokia site saying that some piece or other of software that they were pushing did require PR2.x (V2x) on the N97 mini and PR3.x (V3x) on the N97 to work correctly. Would Nokia be releasing software that will never run on phones because the required firmware will never be released? It would be a bit stupid, although I wouldn't put it past them.
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N97 mini software?

can nokia introsuce the landscape and portrait qwerty keyboard in touch screen of nokia n97 mini

They're very unlikely to / probably won't, since software development is focussed on the newer Symbian phones. There was word a while back on here from the Nokia guys saying there is a firmware update for the N97 and N97 mini in the works, which by the look of things looks like will be the last one for these devices.
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