Naive about the Environment Window

Hi,
I use a Korg synthesizer as a MIDI controller through the MIDI-IN of my Presonus Firebox. The keyboard is automatically detected whenever I open Logic, and so I'm able to play all the software instruments. However, I know nothing about LE's Environment Window and I wonder if I'm missing something. Can someone tell me if I'll gain anything in terms of enhanced functionality, etc. by some sort of manipulations within the Environment Window? For example, I was somewhere something about being able to create an arpegiator there.
Thanks.
Tom
2.1 GHz PowerPC IMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.8) Presonus Firebox interface

Hi.
The Environment is the single most powerful yet misunderstood features of logic.
The manual dedicates an entire chapter on the environment.I suggest you read that,to start.
To give you two examples of what can happen in the Environment:
You can hook up different objects to control ANY device that receives MIDI.this includes synths,effect boxes,coffee makers,garage doors,etc...
Also,you can make MIDI information be transmogrified and changificated into OTHER MIDI data,so if you desire to control a rocket launch with a c3 key,then so be it.
It really is very very deep...but also very rewarding once you get the concepts behind it.
The Logic Environment is to MIDI like Calculus is to Math.
Cheers

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Message was edited by: Axel Rohrbach

Hey Jim,
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