Named anchor hyperlinks error
Pages '09 (and apparently '08 per http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=9989290) has an annoying error that hasn't been fixed in over a year and just wasted a lot of my time figuring out. As noted on that earlier thread (now archived, so I couldn't add to it), if you enter a URL that includes a named anchor, the # sign gets changed to a space (or %23) and causes horrendous rendering when the user clicks. The workaround is to enter the URL as text and choose “enable as hyperlink” in the Inspector. That creates the right hyperlink and you can then change the text to what you want. That this hasn’t been fixed in over a year is not what I expect from Apple. Hopefully someone is listening.
I just discovered another quirk in Pages but can't figure out what sets it off. Text character/paragraph highlighting simply refuses to set in particular bits of text, then later for no reason suddenly works again.
I am seriously thinking about setting up my own blog to keep track of all the bizarre bugs/UI "features" I keep finding in OSX and its applications as well as Pages.
Ennui tends to creep in though, in all the time I've known Apple, which is a very long time, they've never paid the slightest bit of interest in what I as a user think or have discovered.
Peter
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Named Anchor Hyperlink Problem
Has anyone used "named anchor hyperlinks" or bookmarks to jump from one location to another on the same page? (Portal version 9.0.4)
Go There!
...jumps to....
<a name="gothere"></a>
There's a <base href="http://hostname:port/pls/portal"> tag in the head of every portal page which screws these links up. Any workarounds?
Thanks,
WayneI've used this method:
in edit page mode, reach your portlet, clink on edit defaultas link on its right and as display name use
<a name="xyz">Display_name</a>
Then take the address of the page
http://servername/servlet/page?_pageid=NNN,MMM,624&_dad=portal30&_schema=portla30#XYZ
adding #xyz at the end of the link.
This is my experience, it works.
marco -
RE: (forte-users) Named Anchored Obj-EnvironmentFailover
I did some playing around with this stuff as well. I can tell you a few
things.
1) The search path option of connected environments only works for SO's, not
for named anchors.
2) When EnvA creates a directory "/glob", which contains object "obj1", then
EnvA owns directory "/glob". Even after restarting environments. If EnvB
tries to add a subdirectory to "/glob" or inserts its own objects into this
path, then the situation becomes unstable. It doesn't immediately produce an
error, but things go wrong anyway. Is this a bug or expected behaviour? I
don't know. I just learned not to do this. Every environment must place it's
named anchors in it's own tree. Directories can't be shared.
3) I think the relative name "glob/obj1" should work, but only if you set
the ObjectLocationMgr to start looking at the root. Default, it will start
looking in it's own environment basepath. But I don't have any experience
with this.
Pascal Rottier
Atos Origin Nederland (BAS/West End User Computing)
Tel. +31 (0)10-2661223
Fax. +31 (0)10-2661199
E-mail: Pascal.Rottiernl.origin-it.com
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Philip Morris (Afd. MIS)
Tel. +31 (0)164-295149
Fax. +31 (0)164-294444
E-mail: Rottier.Pascalpmintl.ch
-----Original Message-----
From: Master Programmer [mailto:masterprghotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:13 PM
To: forte-userslists.xpedior.com
Subject: (forte-users) Named Anchored Obj-Environment Failover
Hi to all,
We connect from EnvA to EnvB giving the user directory parameter as / and
set the Environment Search Path
as EnvA:EnvB. From both environments we start and register
'/glob/obj1' named anchored objects with the same name.
From a client we connect to EnvA and bind to'/glob/obj1' when we shutdown EnvA partition it fails-over to
EnvB. And then we restart EnvA partition. We restart/rebind the client and
try to use object. We see that it is using the EnvB object.
Although we started the primary environment object again.
It is not using the search path. Once we shutdown secondary environment
it starts using primary environment object.
When we try to use relative path when we are binding the object
First parameter ('glob/obj1') No first slash. Trying 3rd parameter
for bind function or just using environment search path, Is is not able to
find the object. From nsls command I figured out that
under the root directory
/forte/UUID of ENVA/node
/site
/UUID of ENVB
/glob/obj1
names are available. When we use relative path (without slash)
is it trying to find /glob/obj1 under the /forte/UUID of ENVA
but we are registering the name under the root.
What is the reason of this odd behaviour or is this a bug?
Any answer will be appreciated,
For the archives, go to: http://lists.xpedior.com/forte-users and use
the login: forte and the password: archive. To unsubscribe, send in a new
email the word: 'Unsubscribe' to: forte-users-requestlists.xpedior.comI did some playing around with this stuff as well. I can tell you a few
things.
1) The search path option of connected environments only works for SO's, not
for named anchors.
2) When EnvA creates a directory "/glob", which contains object "obj1", then
EnvA owns directory "/glob". Even after restarting environments. If EnvB
tries to add a subdirectory to "/glob" or inserts its own objects into this
path, then the situation becomes unstable. It doesn't immediately produce an
error, but things go wrong anyway. Is this a bug or expected behaviour? I
don't know. I just learned not to do this. Every environment must place it's
named anchors in it's own tree. Directories can't be shared.
3) I think the relative name "glob/obj1" should work, but only if you set
the ObjectLocationMgr to start looking at the root. Default, it will start
looking in it's own environment basepath. But I don't have any experience
with this.
Pascal Rottier
Atos Origin Nederland (BAS/West End User Computing)
Tel. +31 (0)10-2661223
Fax. +31 (0)10-2661199
E-mail: Pascal.Rottiernl.origin-it.com
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Philip Morris (Afd. MIS)
Tel. +31 (0)164-295149
Fax. +31 (0)164-294444
E-mail: Rottier.Pascalpmintl.ch
-----Original Message-----
From: Master Programmer [mailto:masterprghotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:13 PM
To: forte-userslists.xpedior.com
Subject: (forte-users) Named Anchored Obj-Environment Failover
Hi to all,
We connect from EnvA to EnvB giving the user directory parameter as / and
set the Environment Search Path
as EnvA:EnvB. From both environments we start and register
'/glob/obj1' named anchored objects with the same name.
From a client we connect to EnvA and bind to'/glob/obj1' when we shutdown EnvA partition it fails-over to
EnvB. And then we restart EnvA partition. We restart/rebind the client and
try to use object. We see that it is using the EnvB object.
Although we started the primary environment object again.
It is not using the search path. Once we shutdown secondary environment
it starts using primary environment object.
When we try to use relative path when we are binding the object
First parameter ('glob/obj1') No first slash. Trying 3rd parameter
for bind function or just using environment search path, Is is not able to
find the object. From nsls command I figured out that
under the root directory
/forte/UUID of ENVA/node
/site
/UUID of ENVB
/glob/obj1
names are available. When we use relative path (without slash)
is it trying to find /glob/obj1 under the /forte/UUID of ENVA
but we are registering the name under the root.
What is the reason of this odd behaviour or is this a bug?
Any answer will be appreciated,
For the archives, go to: http://lists.xpedior.com/forte-users and use
the login: forte and the password: archive. To unsubscribe, send in a new
email the word: 'Unsubscribe' to: forte-users-requestlists.xpedior.com -
Named Anchors not working in Safari
Has anyone found a work around for named anchors not working in Safari?
For example:
<http://www.macbenimble.com/links.html#browsers>
Would be greatly appreciated if anyone has any info re this?
hollieThat particular page fails the w3c validator: "This page is not Valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional!" Safari is one of the least forgiving of browsers for code that is not correctly written to standards. You might want to put your pages through the validator and look at the list of generated errors.
Named anchors do work in Safari, for example is this web site faq. -
Named Anchors not working in Apple Mail
Hi... we have an HTML Email Newsletter. About 2 months ago the named anchors (links) from the top to different parts of the email stopped working right. For years, named anchors would simply go to the section of the email that you desired. The location of the anchor would appear at the top of the email window. Recently, the links have still worked, but Apple Mail would put the location at the bottom of the email, requiring the user to scroll down to see the content. And even more recently, now we have to double-click the link at the top to get it to work, and still incorrectly.
At first, this seemed to only not work in system 10.6. But now it's working the same way in 10.5. I am surprised a web search hasn't found anyone else with this problem. It affects not only our emails, but any email that has a link from the top of the email to any other part of the email.
Is this just a bug in Apple Mail or is there a fix? Thanks in advance!I have exactly this same problem - anchors now move the cursor so that the desired text is just off the bottom of the message window, and one has to scroll to see it.
This is obviously an error - it is inconsistent with all web / anchor behavior I am familiar with.
What's going on????? -
Why is my named anchor link not working
Can someone please help.
I am a novice at Dreamweaver - but my website works well with almost all links working.
Situation :
The problem lies on the following page www.ozonesystems.co.uk/airunits
There are 7 links in the table which point to Named Anchors
While browsing in Internet Explorer, all links work perfectly
While in MozillaFirefox or Google Chrome, only the fist 2 links work. The remaining 5 links do not redirect me to the appropriate section (anchor) on the page. There is no error message.
Can anybody please help with this problem?
Thanks - Roy MarnewickHi Jon
Many thanks for your reply and comments.
I am a real novice. I used ApDiv's only because I had a problem in getting images and text to reside where I intended them to be placed - and this was the only way which I discovered would achieve the result I required. I do not want to re-invent the wheel, so I will just live with problems which may appear to those using different size text, and hope there are minimal visitors doing this!
I will visit the link which you have provided to resolve the minor errors. Thanks for the link.
It is good to hear that (hopefully) the problem is not as widespread as I thought it might be as you did not experience a problem while browsing with Firefox36 and Chrome40. I will try and clear the browser cache as suggested - do not know how - but will try and find out.
Thanks & Regards
Roy Marnewick -
Anchor tag error, also copy and pasting text comes up "null"
After the recent update I am receiving anchor tag errors telling me to start with an alphabetic letter, which I was. Also no longer lets me copy and paste text onto a page, instead it says "null". Any ideas on a fix ?
I don't see a closing </body> tag in your code. There's an opening tag, but no closing tag, hence unbalanced.
^_^ -
Target Named Anchor in a Spry Collapsible Panel from a different page
Let me start by saying I have combed this forum (and others) looking for a resolution to this. I am familiar with David Powers solution on Foundationphp.com and am using that code in project to open the collapsible panel from a separate page and it works beautifullly. The problem I have is that I want the browser to move down to a specific named anchor inside that opened collapsible panel when clicked from a different page.
Snippets of my current code here.
Below is the code that I have on an image that when clicked goes to the correct page and opens Panel1. Works Perfectly!
<a href="bamboo-species.php?col1=open#CollapsiblePanel1"><img src="images/Content/Photos/HomeScroll/blackTmbor.jpg" width="227" height="175" /></a>
Below is the link to the .js file and the script in the head of the target page
<script type="text/javascript" src="SpryAssets/SpryURLUtils.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript">
// Grabs the values of the URL parameters for the current URL.
var params = Spry.Utils.getLocationParamsAsObject();
</script>
Below is the code that I have on the target page for Panel1
<script type="text/javascript">
var CollapsiblePanel1 = new Spry.Widget.CollapsiblePanel("CollapsiblePanel1", {contentIsOpen:params.col1 ? true : false},{duration: 1000});
</script>
If I have a named anchor say <a name="species1" id="species1"></a> down in the page, how do I target that named anchor from my link on the separate page. I have tried adding the #species1 to the end of the link on the link page (see below) but with no luck. I believe those were the instructions on foundationphp.com site.
<a href="bamboo-species.php?col1=open#CollapsiblePanel1#species1"><img src="images/Content/Photos/HomeScroll/blackTmbor.jpg" width="227" height="175" /></a>
I hope (and suspect) that this is an easy fix, I just do not know what it is. Any help or direction where to look is greatly appreciated.I once had the same issue can created a small function that allows me to "jump" to a element.
function scrollTo( element ){
var stylize = function( element){ return !+"\v1" ? element.currentStyle : document.defaultView.getComputedStyle( element , null ) },
getPosition = function( element ){
// based on the SpryEffect's module:
var computedStyle, tryComputedStyle,
position = { x: 0, y: 0 };
if ( element.style.left && /px/i.test(element.style.left) ){
position.x = parseInt(element.style.left, 10); // without padding
} else {
computedStyle = stylize( element );
var tryComputedStyle = computedStyle && computedStyle.left && /px/i.test( computedStyle.left );
if (tryComputedStyle)
position.x = parseInt( computedStyle.left, 10 ); // without padding, includes css
if(!tryComputedStyle || position.x == 0) // otherwise we might run into problems on safari and opera (mac only)
position.x = element.offsetLeft; // includes padding
if ( element.style.top && /px/i.test(element.style.top) )
position.y = parseInt( element.style.top, 10); // without padding
else
if ( !computedStyle )
computedStyle = stylize( element );
var tryComputedStyle = computedStyle && computedStyle.top && /px/i.test( computedStyle.top );
if ( tryComputedStyle )
position.y = parseInt( computedStyle.top, 10 ); // without padding, includes css
if( !tryComputedStyle || position.y == 0 ) // otherwise we might run into problems on safari and opera (mac only)
position.y = element.offsetTop; // includes padding
return position;
scroll( 0, getPosition( element ).y );
So now we have a scrollTo function that accepts a pure HTML element as argument, all what is left to do is figure out if we have a hash, and if the anchor exits on the page.
( hopes this works, i wrote it without testing, but you get the general idea ):
if( window.location.hash ){
var hash = window.location.hash.substr(1), // remove the # from the hash
element;
// as anchors can also be used with id attributes, check that first,
element = document.getElementById( hash );
// maby we used name="" attribute
if( !element && ( element = document.getElementsByName( hash )) ){
element = element[0];
// if we have a match:
if( element ){
// give the collapsible panel some time to init and update the DOM;
setTimeout(function(){ scrollTo( element ) },0);
\o/ -
Links to id's and named anchors within a page in an iframe do not open in firefox
In order to force layout of my liquid website, I use i-frames to display content . It is all on my sight www.rdelutherie.com, and I am not displaying pages from other sights. The links to sections of pages from within the same page do not work in firefox.
I have had this problem before with named anchors, and in moving up to html5 and in making my site accessible for people with dissabilities, I started using <nav> eliments... and changed from named anchors to links to ID's like this:
In an unordered list I have these:
<pre><nowiki> <li><a href="#s1">Subject 1:</a></li>
</nowiki></pre>
They link to sections of the same page like this one:
<pre><nowiki>
<section id=s1>
<h2>Subject 1:</h2>
<p>Blah blah blaaaaah, and bla bla!</p>
</section></nowiki></pre>
Last time I researched this problem (a year or more ago), I was told that it was because of a security risk (something about being able to count views...and other peoples proprietary and copyrighted material), but the vaguely described reasoning made little to no sense to me nor many others, who can not even link to our own stuff. The Mozilla developers were rather abrupt and some were even rude in telling us to live with it, instead of trying to come up with a solution or work around, and closed the post and disallowed further posting.
The problem still persists, and although I am not a programmer, I have a real hard time believing that it is impossible for Firefox to distinguish between links contained within a document and site, from those on different sights, domains and what have you.
As far as I know, no other browsers have this problem, so if it is such a big security risk, what is to stop someone with malicious intentions, from just using M$ IE, to bring their evil plan to fruition?
In keeping with "Making the web a better place": Please address this problem, and find a solution, workaround, or at least explain why it is impossible.
Bob EnglishThanks again jscher2000,
I know exactly what you mean, but I have had other page display problems with adjacent columns where one side does not display completely and seems to be conforming to the other ones height... hence the height settings and other tricks to force things to be acceptable.
I am far from understanding code, and most of the solutions, including the one in the link you posted do not have the information a novice like me would need to implement them successfully. Most of them are written for people much more advanced. Without it telling me where exactly to put the code, point to it, what I can (and should) change and remove elsewhere because of it... I am at a loss. I don't know the basics, and have tried hard to understand them, but it is not like electrical circuits, physics and other things that I can understand naturally and with ease.
I will look into it further in a few days, meanwhile I have to attend to my real work that doesn't even pay the bills completely: guitar building and repair, now that comes easy and naturally to me! -
when testing a datasource connection I get the following error.
Named Pipes provider, error:40 could not open a connection to sql server.
I've read all the posts on this and nothing works. This is a scale out deployment and the connection
works from the other server I have setup with SRS that is connected to the same backend SRS databases. It just doesn't work from one of the SRS front ends. I'm at a loss.. please helpEnable both named pipe and TCP communications.
Make sure client is using the same (named) pipe name as server for connection.
Kalman Toth Database & OLAP Architect
Free T-SQL Scripts
New Book / Kindle: Exam 70-461 Bootcamp: Querying Microsoft SQL Server 2012 -
RE: Named anchored objects
Albert,
In my case I was using a named anchored object to get a handle to an actual
service object. My named object that I registered in the name service was
an intermediary to which I did not maintain a connection. So I have not
explicitly tested what you are asking.
However, I too was not using a hard coded reference to the SO, and fail over
and load balancing worked fine. The functions of fail over and load
balancing are not done by the service object but by the name service, proxy
and router. Since you are getting a proxy back any time you do a lookup in
the name service I would think that fail over should work with any anchored
object that is registered in the name service. When you do a RegisterObject
call you will notice that one of the arguments is the session duration,
which implies to me that fail over will be handled the same as for service
objects.
Load balancing adds another wrinkle. Load balancing is handled by a router.
You must get a proxy to the router and not a proxy to an instance of the
object that the router is doing the load balancing for. In the latter
scenario you will be bypassing the router. If you are creating, anchoring
and registering your objects dynamically you will not have a router so you
will not be able to load balance! This applies even if the objects are
instantiated within partitions that are load balanced because you will still
be getting proxies back to a particular instance of the anchored objects.
There are ways to accomplish load balancing between objects that you
register yourself. However, the best solution will vary depending on the
actual problem trying to be solved. If you would like to discuss this
further, include a little more detail about the scenario you need to
implement and I will give you what I know.
BTY what I have outlined above also applies to getting references via a
system agent.
Sean
Cornice Consulting, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[<a href="mailto:[email protected]">mailto:[email protected]]On</a> Behalf Of Albert Dijk
Sent: Friday, July 03, 1998 11:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject:
Alex, David, Jez, Sean,...
My question about both solutions (using Nameservice and agents) is:
If I reach a remote service object using either a BindObject or an agent, do
fail-over and load-balancing work the same way as they normally do when
using a hard coded reference to the SO.
Albert Dijk
From: Sean Brown[SMTP:[email protected]]
Reply To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 6:55 AM
To: Ananiev, Alex; [email protected]
Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and
interface
Alexander,
I can not comment on the speed difference because I never tested it.
But, I
will say that we looked at the agent solution at a client sight
before. I
will give the same warning I gave them. If you go the agent direction
you
are now using agents for a purpose that they were not intended. Even
though
it technically works, as soon as you start using a piece of
functionality in
a way the developer did not intend it to be used you run the risk of
forward
compatibility problems. By this I mean, since agents were not
originally
intended to be used to look up service / anchored object references,
it may
not work in the future because it is not likely to be given
consideration in
any future design.
As we all know, programmers are always stretching the bounds of the
tools
they use and you may have a good reason (i.e. performance). I just
wanted to
let you know the possible risk.
One final note on a limitation of using system agents to obtain
references
to anchored objects. You can not access agents across environments.
So, if
you have connected environments and need to get references to services
in
another environment for fail-over or whatever, you will not be able to
do it
with agents.
Just some thoughts!
Sean
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[<a href="mailto:[email protected]]On">mailto:[email protected]]On</a> Behalf Of Ananiev, Alex
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 12:14 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and interface
David,
The problem with dynamic binding is that in this case you have to keep
the reference to the service object somewhere. You don't want to call
"bindObject" every time you need to use this service object, "bind" is
a
time-consuming operation, even on the same partition. Keeping
reference
could be undesirable if your object could be moved across partitions
(e.g. business object).
The alternative solution is to use agents. You can create custom
agent,
make it a subagent of an active partition agent and use it as a
placeholder for whatever service you need. "FindSubAgent" works much
faster than "bindObject", we verified that and agent is "user-visible"
by its nature.
Alexander
From: "Sean Brown" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:12:55 -0500
Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and interface
David,
I actually determined it through testing. In my case I did not want
this to
happen and was trying to determine why it was happing. It makes sense
if
you think about it. Forte is trying to avoid making a remote method
invocation if it can.
Now, for anything more complex than looking locally first and if none
is
found give me any remote instance you can find, you will need to do
more
work. Using a naming scheme like Jez suggests below works well.
Sean
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jez Sygrove [<a href="mailto:[email protected]">mailto:[email protected]</a>]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 4:34 AM
To: [email protected]; 'David Foote'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and interface
David,
there's a mechanism used within SCAFFOLDS that allows the
location of the 'nearest' SO when more than one is available.
It involves registering each duplicated SO under three dynamically
built
names. The names include the partition, the node or the environment
name.
When wishing to locate the nearest SO the BO builds a SO name using
its
own partition and asks the name service for that.
If there is an SO registered under that name then it must be in the
same
partition and all is well. No cross partition calls.
If not, then the BO builds the name using its node and asks the name
service for that.
This means that if there is an SO outside the BO partition but still
on
the same node then this can be used. Again, relatively 'local'.
If neither of these work then the BO has to resort to an environment
wide search.
It may be that this approach could be adapted / adopted; I like it's
ingenuity.
Cheers,
Jez
From: David Foote[SMTP:[email protected]]
Reply To: David Foote
Sent: 24 June 1998 03:17
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and
interface
Sean,
First, thank you for your response. I have wondered about this fora
long time.
I looked at the documentation for ObjectLocationManager and on page
327
of the Framework Library and AppletSupport Library Guide indescribing
the BindObject method Forte says:
"The name service allows more than one anchored object (from
different
partitions) to be registered in the name service under the same
registration name. When you invoke the BindObject method with a
request
for a name that has duplicate registration entries, the BindObject
method finds an entry corresponding to an active partition, skipping
any
entries that do not. If no such active partition is found, or if the
requested name is not found in the name service registry, a
RemoteAccessException will be raised when the BindObject method is
invoked."
My question is: How did you discover that in the case of duplicate
registrations the naming service will return the local object if one
exists? This is not apparent from the documentation I have quoted.
Is
it documented elsewhere? Or did you determine it empirically?
David N. Foote,
Consultant
----Original Message Follows----
David,
First I will start by saying that this can be done by using named
anchored
objects and registering them yourself in the name service. There is
documentation on how to do this. And by default you will get mostof
the
behavior you desire. When you do a lookup in the name service
(BindObject
method) it will first look in the local partition and see if thereis
a
local copy and give you that copy. By anchoring the object and
manually
registering it in the name service you are programmatically creating
your
own SO without defining it as such in the development environment.
BTW
in
response to your item number 1. This should be the case there as
well.
If
your "mobile" object is in the same partition where the serviceobject
he is
calling resides, you should get a handle to the local instance ofthe
service object.
Here is the catch, if you make a bind object call and there is no
local
copy
you will get a handle to a remote copy but you can not be sure which
one!
It end ups as more or less a random selection. Off the top of myhead
and
without going to the doc, I am pretty sure that when you register an
anchored object you can not limit it's visibility to "User".
Sean
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[<a href=
"mailto:[email protected]]On">mailto:[email protected]]On</a> Behalf Of David Foote
Sent: Monday, June 22, 1998 4:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: multiple named objects with the same name and interface
All,
More than once, I have wished that Forte allowed you to place named
objects with the same name in more than one partition. There aretwo
situations in which this seems desirable:
1) Objects that are not distributed, but are mobile (passed by value
to
remote objects), cannot safely reference a Service Object unless it
has
environment visibility, but this forces the overhead of a remote
method
call when it might not otherwise be necessary. If it were possibleto
place a copy of the same Service Object (with user visibility) ineach
partition, the overhead of a remote method call could be avoided.
This
would only be useful for a service object whose state could besafely
replicated.
2) My second scenario also involves mobile objects referencing a
Service
Object, but this time I would like the behavior of the calledService
Object to differ with the partition from which it is called.
This could be accomplished by placing Service Objects with the same
name
and the same interface in each partition, but varying the
implementation
with the partition.
Does anyone have any thoughts about why this would be a good thingor
a
bad thing?
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In my case I was using a named anchored object to get a handle to an actual
service object. My named object that I registered in the name service was
an intermediary to which I did not maintain a connection. So I have not
explicitly tested what you are asking.
However, I too was not using a hard coded reference to the SO, and fail over
and load balancing worked fine. The functions of fail over and load
balancing are not done by the service object but by the name service, proxy
and router. Since you are getting a proxy back any time you do a lookup in
the name service I would think that fail over should work with any anchored
object that is registered in the name service. When you do a RegisterObject
call you will notice that one of the arguments is the session duration,
which implies to me that fail over will be handled the same as for service
objects.
Load balancing adds another wrinkle. Load balancing is handled by a router.
You must get a proxy to the router and not a proxy to an instance of the
object that the router is doing the load balancing for. In the latter
scenario you will be bypassing the router. If you are creating, anchoring
and registering your objects dynamically you will not have a router so you
will not be able to load balance! This applies even if the objects are
instantiated within partitions that are load balanced because you will still
be getting proxies back to a particular instance of the anchored objects.
There are ways to accomplish load balancing between objects that you
register yourself. However, the best solution will vary depending on the
actual problem trying to be solved. If you would like to discuss this
further, include a little more detail about the scenario you need to
implement and I will give you what I know.
BTY what I have outlined above also applies to getting references via a
system agent.
Sean
Cornice Consulting, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[<a href="mailto:[email protected]">mailto:[email protected]]On</a> Behalf Of Albert Dijk
Sent: Friday, July 03, 1998 11:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject:
Alex, David, Jez, Sean,...
My question about both solutions (using Nameservice and agents) is:
If I reach a remote service object using either a BindObject or an agent, do
fail-over and load-balancing work the same way as they normally do when
using a hard coded reference to the SO.
Albert Dijk
From: Sean Brown[SMTP:[email protected]]
Reply To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 6:55 AM
To: Ananiev, Alex; [email protected]
Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and
interface
Alexander,
I can not comment on the speed difference because I never tested it.
But, I
will say that we looked at the agent solution at a client sight
before. I
will give the same warning I gave them. If you go the agent direction
you
are now using agents for a purpose that they were not intended. Even
though
it technically works, as soon as you start using a piece of
functionality in
a way the developer did not intend it to be used you run the risk of
forward
compatibility problems. By this I mean, since agents were not
originally
intended to be used to look up service / anchored object references,
it may
not work in the future because it is not likely to be given
consideration in
any future design.
As we all know, programmers are always stretching the bounds of the
tools
they use and you may have a good reason (i.e. performance). I just
wanted to
let you know the possible risk.
One final note on a limitation of using system agents to obtain
references
to anchored objects. You can not access agents across environments.
So, if
you have connected environments and need to get references to services
in
another environment for fail-over or whatever, you will not be able to
do it
with agents.
Just some thoughts!
Sean
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[<a href="mailto:[email protected]]On">mailto:[email protected]]On</a> Behalf Of Ananiev, Alex
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 12:14 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and interface
David,
The problem with dynamic binding is that in this case you have to keep
the reference to the service object somewhere. You don't want to call
"bindObject" every time you need to use this service object, "bind" is
a
time-consuming operation, even on the same partition. Keeping
reference
could be undesirable if your object could be moved across partitions
(e.g. business object).
The alternative solution is to use agents. You can create custom
agent,
make it a subagent of an active partition agent and use it as a
placeholder for whatever service you need. "FindSubAgent" works much
faster than "bindObject", we verified that and agent is "user-visible"
by its nature.
Alexander
From: "Sean Brown" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:12:55 -0500
Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and interface
David,
I actually determined it through testing. In my case I did not want
this to
happen and was trying to determine why it was happing. It makes sense
if
you think about it. Forte is trying to avoid making a remote method
invocation if it can.
Now, for anything more complex than looking locally first and if none
is
found give me any remote instance you can find, you will need to do
more
work. Using a naming scheme like Jez suggests below works well.
Sean
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jez Sygrove [<a href="mailto:[email protected]">mailto:[email protected]</a>]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 4:34 AM
To: [email protected]; 'David Foote'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and interface
David,
there's a mechanism used within SCAFFOLDS that allows the
location of the 'nearest' SO when more than one is available.
It involves registering each duplicated SO under three dynamically
built
names. The names include the partition, the node or the environment
name.
When wishing to locate the nearest SO the BO builds a SO name using
its
own partition and asks the name service for that.
If there is an SO registered under that name then it must be in the
same
partition and all is well. No cross partition calls.
If not, then the BO builds the name using its node and asks the name
service for that.
This means that if there is an SO outside the BO partition but still
on
the same node then this can be used. Again, relatively 'local'.
If neither of these work then the BO has to resort to an environment
wide search.
It may be that this approach could be adapted / adopted; I like it's
ingenuity.
Cheers,
Jez
From: David Foote[SMTP:[email protected]]
Reply To: David Foote
Sent: 24 June 1998 03:17
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and
interface
Sean,
First, thank you for your response. I have wondered about this fora
long time.
I looked at the documentation for ObjectLocationManager and on page
327
of the Framework Library and AppletSupport Library Guide indescribing
the BindObject method Forte says:
"The name service allows more than one anchored object (from
different
partitions) to be registered in the name service under the same
registration name. When you invoke the BindObject method with a
request
for a name that has duplicate registration entries, the BindObject
method finds an entry corresponding to an active partition, skipping
any
entries that do not. If no such active partition is found, or if the
requested name is not found in the name service registry, a
RemoteAccessException will be raised when the BindObject method is
invoked."
My question is: How did you discover that in the case of duplicate
registrations the naming service will return the local object if one
exists? This is not apparent from the documentation I have quoted.
Is
it documented elsewhere? Or did you determine it empirically?
David N. Foote,
Consultant
----Original Message Follows----
David,
First I will start by saying that this can be done by using named
anchored
objects and registering them yourself in the name service. There is
documentation on how to do this. And by default you will get mostof
the
behavior you desire. When you do a lookup in the name service
(BindObject
method) it will first look in the local partition and see if thereis
a
local copy and give you that copy. By anchoring the object and
manually
registering it in the name service you are programmatically creating
your
own SO without defining it as such in the development environment.
BTW
in
response to your item number 1. This should be the case there as
well.
If
your "mobile" object is in the same partition where the serviceobject
he is
calling resides, you should get a handle to the local instance ofthe
service object.
Here is the catch, if you make a bind object call and there is no
local
copy
you will get a handle to a remote copy but you can not be sure which
one!
It end ups as more or less a random selection. Off the top of myhead
and
without going to the doc, I am pretty sure that when you register an
anchored object you can not limit it's visibility to "User".
Sean
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[<a href=
"mailto:[email protected]]On">mailto:[email protected]]On</a> Behalf Of David Foote
Sent: Monday, June 22, 1998 4:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: multiple named objects with the same name and interface
All,
More than once, I have wished that Forte allowed you to place named
objects with the same name in more than one partition. There aretwo
situations in which this seems desirable:
1) Objects that are not distributed, but are mobile (passed by value
to
remote objects), cannot safely reference a Service Object unless it
has
environment visibility, but this forces the overhead of a remote
method
call when it might not otherwise be necessary. If it were possibleto
place a copy of the same Service Object (with user visibility) ineach
partition, the overhead of a remote method call could be avoided.
This
would only be useful for a service object whose state could besafely
replicated.
2) My second scenario also involves mobile objects referencing a
Service
Object, but this time I would like the behavior of the calledService
Object to differ with the partition from which it is called.
This could be accomplished by placing Service Objects with the same
name
and the same interface in each partition, but varying the
implementation
with the partition.
Does anyone have any thoughts about why this would be a good thingor
a
bad thing?
David N. Foote
Consultant
Alexander Ananiev
Claremont Technology Group
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Hi, I am using SQL Server 2008 R2 and on one of our dev boxes I am trying to setup ReportServer using ReportingServices Configuration manager. This is was installed longtime back and during installation they created a service account for reporting services.
When I try to configure the service account I do not get the service account created during the installation in the pull down and if I were to use something different I get this "Named Pipes Provider, error: 40 - Could not open a connection to SQL Server"
error.
Thanks in advance...........
IoneHi,
Take a look at this blog - http://blogs.msdn.com/b/sql_protocols/archive/2007/03/31/named-pipes-provider-error-40-could-not-open-a-connection-to-sql-server.aspx
I hope it will help. -
Named Anchor linking from another document
I made a Named Anchor and linked from some text in another document. Great. Worked just fine. The only thing is it doesn't display the named anchor at the top of the page.
In other words the footer is at the bottom of the page and the named anchor in the middle of the page... not at the top. Like a #top would be.
Anyway to get it to the top of the page? Do I just need more content under it?
Much appreciated!Thanks for the help. I had no luck trying it out.
If possible, at: artdesignsneed.com/joeldoctor
Under menu choice "Treatment" then choose "TFP".... the first sentence has ..."Borderline PD developed..."
I wanted to link Borderline PD to:
Menu choice: Disorders... choose Personality... go down to "Cluster B" and there's Borderline PD.
The link worked but the named anchor "Borderline PD" is in the middle of the page.
Cheers if you can help.
If not, I'm going in the right direction.
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Re: Named Pipes Provider, error: 40 - Could not open a connection to SQL Server
Hi,
I'm encountering an issue with "Named Pipes Provider, error: 40 windows" and am having problems determining how to fix it due to the environment I'm using. I have two SQL Servers installed on two separate Win2K3 Server boxes, one is SQL Server 2000 and the other is SQL Server 2005. The SQL Server 2000 contains the actual application data. The 2005 database is used only for Reporting Services. I've set up the reports on SSRS such that their datasources hit the 2000 server. This is using SQL Server authentication.
When testing the reports via SSRS (in Visual Studio 2005), the connection to the data works and the reports are generated fine. When I deploy them to the reporting server and launch IE to test locally (still on the 2005 box), I get this "Named Pipes Provider, error 40" issue. I made sure that Named Pipes and TCP were enabled and the port set at 1433 (to match that on the 2000 box).
Now I changed the datasource's authentication from SQL Server to Windows authentication. I tested this in SSRS and this works too. When I redeployed the reports with this authentication change, testing the reports via IE locally (on the 2005 box) worked. Great. Now when I open IE on an external box, i.e. on the 2000 box, and try to test the reports, I get this same error 40 issue. I've been through a few threads describing the error 40, fiddling around with the SQL Server configuration as well as SSRS, to no avail. I have a feeling this error 40 issue has to due with permissions/authentication between the SQL Server boxes but I can't really be sure. Anyone have any ideas on how to troubleshoot my situation. Thanks.
larryNamed Pipes Provider, error: 40 - Could not open a connection to SQL Server :
I. Incorrect connection string, such as using SqlExpress.
Check out: http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=558456&SiteID=17
https://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1245564&SiteID=1
The typical error when dealing with Express includes:
a. User is not aware of SqlExpress was installed as a named instance, consequently, in his/her connection string, he/she only specify ".","localhost" etc instead of ".\SqlExpress" or "<machinename>\Sqlexpress".
b. Np was disabld by default after installing SqlExpress.
c. If Sqlexpress was installed on the remote box, you need to enable remote connection for Express.
Please read the following blog for best practice of connecting to SqlExpress.
http://blogs.msdn.com/sql_protocols/archive/2006/03/23/558651.aspx
II. Named Pipes(NP) was not enabled on the SQL instance.
Check out: http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=136253&SiteID=1
Oppose to SQL 2000 which turn on all protocols, SQL 2005 SKUs turn off NP by default. So, when you see this error, please check:
1) Go to SQL Server Configuration Manager, See Server has NP enabled.
2) %windir%\program files\microsoft sql server\mssql.1\mssql\log, notepad ERRORLOG, see whether Server is listening on NP. You should see "Server named pipe provider is ready to accept connection on [ \\.\pipe\sql\query ] or [\\.\pipe\mssql$<InstanceName>\sql\query]"
3) Notice that "sql\query" is the default pipe name, so you need to know server is listening on which pipe name. eg: if you specify server pipe name is "sql\query1", then you would see in the errorlog that server listening on [ \\.\pipe\sql\query1 ], and go to SQL Server Configuration Manager, click client Named Pipe properties, see whether the pipe name is same with the one server listening on.
4) If you are using SQL Native Client ODBC/OLEDB provider({SQL Native Client} or SQLNCLI), go to SQL Configuration Manager, click client protocols, make sure NP and TCP are both enabled. Right click properties of NP, make sure client is using the same pipe name as server for connection.
5) If you are using MDAC ODBC/OLEDB({SQL Server} or SQLOLEDB) provider, in command line, launch "cliconfg.exe" and make sure NP enabled and right pipe name specified.
III. Remote connection was not enabled.
Check out: when you right click on the Server in SQL Server Management Studio, in Connections, the Remote server connections part, you have enabled the "Allow remote connections to this server" check box
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=322792&SiteID=1
https://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=763875&SiteID=1
If you are making a remote connection, namely, your target SQL Server is on the different box as client application, you might need to check whether:
a. "File and Printer Sharing" was opened in Firewall exception list.
b. Please see the blog for enabling remote connection for express and troubleshooting tips of remote connection.
http://blogs.msdn.com/sql_protocols/archive/2005/11/14/492616.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/sql_protocols/archive/2006/09/30/SQL-Server-2005-Remote-Connectivity-Issue-TroubleShooting.aspx
IV. Server not started, or point to not a real server in your connection string.
Check out: Open SQL Server Surface Area Configuration and ensure all the required services are started, Remote Connections are configured.
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=348662&SiteID=1
a. use "sc query mssqlserver" for default instance or "sc query mssql$<instancename>" to make sure SQL Server was started. Sometimes, reseason behind the broken of your client application w/ this error:40 might be SQL server restarted and failed, so, it'd better for you to double check.
b. User specified wrong server in their connection string, as described in the forum discussion, "MSSQLSERVER" is an invalid instance name. Remember, when you connect to default instance, <machinename> could be best representitive for the instance, when you connect to a named instance such as sqlexpress, you should specify <machinename>\<instancename> as data source in your connection string.
V. Other reasons such as incorrect security context.
Check out: http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=192622&SiteID=1
Such error also occured during user operation such as moving database or db mirroring or cluster, any DB OP that might invovle different sql instances, namely, the destination database is located in another sql instance and user is not aware of the state of the destination. I recommend you first isolate whether this fail is during connection stage or data operation stage.
a. During data operation, you are normally asked to type in the destination server name whether it is default to "(local)" or another server "<remotemachinename>". So, remember the exact string that represent the target instance, then when the error repros, open command line, use "sqlcmd -S<representitive> -E" ,see what happens, if the connection fail, please follow up above I - IV troubleshooting lists. otherwise continue.
b. If you can make basic conection, but still face the error, then there must be something that server reject the connection or client close the connection for some reason.
VI. Please try basic connectivity tests between the two mahcines you are working on. One simple way to verifty connectivity is to use command line tools, such as osql.exe. For example, osql -E -Stcpervername\instancename. If it connects cross-machine successfully, please also verify that your connection string in your scenario is correct.
Here are some blogs which could be helpful: just follow the basic connectivity troubleshooting guidelines on the SQL Protocols blog, see:
SQL Server 2005 Connectivity Issue Troubleshoot - Part I
http://blogs.msdn.com/sql_protocols/archive/2005/10/22/483684.aspx
and
SQL Server 2005 Connectivity Issue Troubleshoot - Part II
http://blogs.msdn.com/sql_protocols/archive/2005/10/29/486861.aspx
Hope this helps. -
Named Anchored Obj-Environment Failover
Hi to all,
We connect from EnvA to EnvB giving the user directory parameter as / and
set the Environment Search Path
as EnvA:EnvB. From both environments we start and register
'/glob/obj1' named anchored objects with the same name.
From a client we connect to EnvA and bind to'/glob/obj1' when we shutdown EnvA partition it fails-over to
EnvB. And then we restart EnvA partition. We restart/rebind the client and
try to use object. We see that it is using the EnvB object.
Although we started the primary environment object again.
It is not using the search path. Once we shutdown secondary environment
it starts using primary environment object.
When we try to use relative path when we are binding the object
First parameter ('glob/obj1') No first slash. Trying 3rd parameter
for bind function or just using environment search path, Is is not able to
find the object. From nsls command I figured out that
under the root directory
/forte/UUID of ENVA/node
/site
/UUID of ENVB
/glob/obj1
names are available. When we use relative path (without slash)
is it trying to find /glob/obj1 under the /forte/UUID of ENVA
but we are registering the name under the root.
What is the reason of this odd behaviour or is this a bug?
Any answer will be appreciated,Hi Juliesmiley,
According to your description, I recommend you check the conditions required for an automatic failover.
• Primary replica and secondary replica are both configured for syschronous-commit mode and set to AUTOMATIC failover.
• All availability databases that are defined in the availability group must be in a SYNCHRONIZED state between the primary replica and the secondary replica.
• The Windows Server Failover Clustering (WSFC) cluster has quorum.
• The primary replica has become unavailable.
For more information, please review the following articles.
Failover and Failover Modes (AlwaysOn Availability Groups)
Troubleshooting automatic failover problems in SQL Server 2012 AlwaysOn environments
Thanks,
Lydia Zhang
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