NAS Storage itunes match

I'm working offshore so generally away from home for 4-5 weeks at a time, and I have recently added itunes match to my works Laptop, with approx 500 songs.
I haven't signed up to Match on my home PC(yet) and also I haven't added my FULL music library to the home PC yet, but I remember that my NAS Storage shows up in my itunes library as an External Device/ library in the house, i think i can just keep ALL my music which will be approx 40K songs in my NAS and simply dragg and drop to match, without reaching the limit.
does anyone else use a NAS with itunes as a media server. and does it impact on the limit of 25k

25K songs is the limit for iTunes Match. You can have more than that in the iTunes library, but only the first 25K scanned will be available via iTunes Match.

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ITunes Match on a NAS?

How do fellow Apple'ers,
Quick spec on what's being used at the minute:
-rMBP
-iPad Mini
-iPhone 4S
-Time Capsule
-ATV (don't know what gen you call it - the new one..)
-iTunes Match
Prospectively looking to add:
-A NAS
-Mac Pro on release (for no other reason than it will complete my life..)
So, what I'm looking to do;
-Have a NAS set as the main and only iTunes library (most likely set up as a 3rd party iTunes Server)
-Have iTunes Match see this iTunes Library (on the NAS), and upload for all devices to use in iTunes Match mode (including the rMBP)
Most other threads I've found basically say "point your rMBP to the NAS for the iTunes Server and it'll work" - which isn't what I want. I've had a play with this, but then the rMBP is seen as the 'host' for iTunes Match - therefore can't stream/cache songs - ie, when out of internet range, it can't connect to the NAS so hasn't any music cached on it.
Hope this makes sense to someone, and they can advise?
Much love,
Ash x

Presumably the Mac Pro will be resident on the network alongside the NAS?
iTunes Match requires a computer based iTunes library to act as the conduit to the Cloud.
The NAS is effectively a 'local Cloud', however it is unlikely that the NAS can host iTunes.
So the options are:
1. Use the Mac Pro iTunes library and the main conduit to the Cloud - periodically manually backup to the NAS, so the NAS can provide a local iTunes service; or
2. Configure the Mac Pro to always use NAS as the location of its iTunes library - a neat solution provided the NAS is always on.
In both options, once iTunes Match has completed its 'matching' / 'upload' the iDevices and rMBP can use Match as there source. A NAS with decent RAID configuration makes a superb local backup option.

HT4914 Does itunes match keep track of playcount

most of my playlists are based of playcount info.

No, it doesn't use your iCloud storage, iTunes Match is separate.

HT4914 Do you need to purchase more than the basic 5 Gigs of free iCloud storage if you have more than 5 Gigs of all data that can be stored on iCloud if you subscribe to iTunes Match?

I purchased an additional 10 Gigs of iCloud storage in 2012 for my iPhone 4S and iPad (3rd Gen Wi-Fi) for $20 per year through my iPhone carrier AT&T using IOS 4.3 which has been kept updated to IOS 6.13. In 2012 I purchased an iPad 3rd Generation with Wi-Fi only and at the end of my one year 10 gig upgrade I noticed that I had not used any of the additional 10 gigs and was not going to renew the additional storage. However, I decided to move all of my MP3 music library and copy my remaining CD collection of music (a couple hundred CD's) to my Windows Computer Hard Drive so that I could keep them safe.
As I started purchasing new Albums from iTunes I decided to allow iTunes to store all my music in case my Hard Drive crashed. I did not purchase iTunes Match but all of my collections appear to be stored on iTunes as the storage cloud appears on my Apple devices which use the same Apple ID. A week ago I purchased another iPad (4th Generation Wi-Fi only) so my wife and I could use them at the same time. I kept everything under the same Apple ID because I use a lot of music creation apps like AmpliTube, Drum machines, Guitar Pro etc for creating music as well as Photo Apps for my Photography hobby and I wanted access to the apps regardless of which device was handy (including connecting the 2 iPads together for music looping and more).
I still don't see any of the additional Ten gigs used as less than 500 Meg's are backed up into memory from each of the three devices.
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Confused as to which service I need?

Only 5gb free iCloud storage is available for one apple ID.
As you said, 2 + 2.4 doesn't add up to 5gb
These are all the things that gets saved on iCloud
Photos and videos
iOS backup
Documents (from Pages, numbers, keynote, documents from other apps)
Also email from @iCloud.com account
if you go to [Settings > iCloud > Storage > Manage Storage], you can see this.
This should show you what is taking up your iCloud storage.

ITunes Match on a Synology Nas - many exclamation marks in the first row

Hi,
I transfared my entire iTunes Libary of roughly 26.000 Songs (1.000 plus bought on iTunes) to my Synology NAS. Now when I start iTunes on my MacBook via WiFi it takes quite some time to be ready to play. Each time I open the Library on my NAS iTunes iTunes Match updates.
iTunes looks like it's hung up, but it's just increadibly slow working in the background. Afert around 15 to 30 Minutes it's throu with it, however it shows on many songs an exclamation mark in the very first row where there's no title to it and in the column with the cloude symbole on top.
When trying to play on of these songs it says: "The Title "Nothing Changes" cannot be played, because iTunes cannot find the original. Do you want to search for it?" Then I say: "cancel", double click on the same file again a a few seconds later the cloude icon switches from exclamation mark to the download symbole and I can play the song.
Why is iTunes Match searching each time for changes in the library, even when opening iTunes three times a day... Can I determine how often iTunes Match should update the Library?
Thanks for help!
Daniel
Cologne, Germany

Is the NAS mounted when you open iTunes? If not, then of course iTunes can't find the music files.

IPhone would not let me delete individual song from library, tried deleting album to remove music from local storage, now certain songs from album do not show in iTunes match on iPhone only on computer

Upon completion of matching and uploading my very large library of music (+15,000), I wanted to see how iTunes Match worked on my iPhone. I started it and selected the first album in the list to listen to. I let it play the entire album and then decided that I wanted to remove certain songs off of the iPhone's local storage. Tried to delete the individual songs and it would not let me. So I figured that I would go back and just delete the album. After selecting delete I went back to listen to one of the songs on the album and realized that it deleted several of the songs from the iTunes Match completely. When pulling iTunes up on my computer the songs are still there but does not give me the option to upload to iTunes Match.
I have tried turning off Match on iPhone and back on (doesn't seem to do anything cause when turned off the iPhone still displays the music.)
Then tried power cycling. (Still shows the music)
Then I tried power cycling again and resyncing the phone and the iPhone still shows the music as it was on the phone.
How do I get the music to be accessable on the iPhone again.. I have been messing with this for the course of 3 hours now.. and any help would be appreciated!!
iPhone 3GS 8GB

Actually Michael I know exactly how to delete.. The iPhone would not let me swipe to the left to delete the individual song, so I went to the album view and did it there.. The issue I am having is a bug because it removed 3/4 of the albums availablity off my iPhone.. You post proved no help because it is basic troubleshooting which, if you read my post, I have already done.. I did however figure out how to fix my issue on my own.. Basically I had to remove the album from my iTunes on my computer and upload it again to iTunes Match..

IOS 8: iTunes Match hogging huge amount of storage space on iPhone (6 Plus)

Hi there!
I use iTunes Match for a long time now, Have about 18k Songs in in all tagged incl. covers (compressed with JPEG mini app)
After updating to iOS 8, I'm quite sure that Match seems to be the root of a massive use of "other" storage space on my new iPhone 6 Plus. I opted for the 16GB because I thought I don't need more because of iTunes Match. Apparently I was mistaken as the baseline design by Apple is no longer sufficient for using the basic services Apple provides. I tried to solve the problem by restoring the Phone two weeks ago, but the problem reoccurs no matter wether I create a new iPhone and activate iTunes Match or restore it form an iCloud Backup.
I made some screenshots to show the problem:
Note that I have deleted every single cache-file prior to this screenshot and that there is not a single music file on the iPhone.
There also still seems to be a problem with the delete-function integrated in iOS, as music-data is not always wiped, but that's old news I think:
After experimenting with deactivating and activating iTunes Match on the phone and downloading a short album (~50MB) for testing purposes, this happened:
I am out of ideas how to fix this...Applecare is more or less not available right now here in Germany because of the iOS 8.0.1 disaster.
I'm really ****** of as more and more space is eaten up on my phone without even having any use of it. Restoring my iPhone every 2 weeks can't be the answer.
Does anybody have an idea how to fix this? Is this problem a known bug and fixed in iOS 8.1?
Any help is appreciated
Kind regards,
Thorbjörn

Hello Dan,
I am having the exact same issue except mine might be a little worse. I restored my phone and "set up as new" about 3 times. I didn't have much to lose as far as "backup" was concerned so I just went ahead and wiped the whole phone clean. I am missing 10gb.
I Have accepted the fact that iOS takes 5.2GB of storage to run my phone (which is ridiculous). I have also added up all my used data in the "manage storage" portion in setting and it adds up to about 2gb. So basically I have about 10GB unaccounted for. I chatted with apple twice and talked to supervisors and they all tried to walk me through the same process of restoring, rebooting, clearing cache, resetting etc. nothing has worked. I've come to the conclusion that it's a faulty flash drive and we just need to return our phones for new ones. Nothing can be done.

Is the music I play from iTunes Match taking up storage space on my iPad?

I'm a bit confused. I have about 9000 songs in my laptop iTunes. I signed up for iTunes Match. As I play songs from those 9000 is it bringing them into my iPad and using storage there, or do they stay in my iCloud storage area and simply play from there? I signed up for it with understanding/hope that I could have all my music without using up space on my devices (iPad and iPhone). Am I correct that my device storage is NOT being used?

You're welcome.
the bbq king wrote:
Thanks for the answer Michael. So how will I know when I'm getting dangerously close to using up all of my storage/data capacity?
If you've got your iDevice set up to sync via Wi Fi you can just look at the summary page for the device in iTunes to see how much capatcity is being used. But it shouldn't be a problem because the Music app will delete older downloaded tracks to make room for newer tracks as you download them. You can also delete music by track by swiping and tapping the delete button; or by Album or Artist by tap-n-hold and tapping the "x."
the bbq king wrote:
If I delete songs from my device to free up space will that delete it from my computer or iCloud list?
No. Only from your iDevice. And even when you do delete a track from your iDevice you'll still be able to see it as being in the cloud so you can download it again.
the bbq king wrote:
n my opinion Apple makes iCloud and iTunes Match sound like they are streaming technologies. Or let's at least say they aren't very forthcoming that all songs played are downloaded to your device. Maybe if you have any persuassion with Apple you could suggest they tweak their marketing message.
I don't have any "persuassion" with Apple but I do agree that the marketing language is, shall we say, fuzzy. It definitely should be modified.

HT5637 now that I have subscribed to iTunes match and synched with my phone, I assume that all the music stored on my phone is now stored in the cloud. Can I now delete the tunes on my phone so that I regain storage space?

Now that I have subscribed to iTunes Match and synched my phone, I'm assuming that my 6.9GB of music and 2.3 GB of videos are stored in the cloud and accessible to my phone for listening or watching. Can I now delete them from my phone so that I regain the 9.2GB of storage space?

Go to Settings > General > Usage, select Music, then Edit. There will be a delete option there. It may take a few minutes to delete if you have a large collection on your iPhone.

HT4914 Does the music upload limit of 25 000 songs to iCloud is aside of the 6gig limit offered by iCloud for stocking/saving data or is it the same? Will I have to pay for an storage limit update for iCloud because I take iTunes Match?

And will I have to pay for an update storage limit for iCloud because I take iTunes Match?

No, your iCloud storage is seperate. I have 42GB of music in my itunes match account and I still have almost all of the 5GB of storage space free. You only have to pay for itunes match once and as long as you don't have more than 25,000 songs in your itunes, you are good to go.

ITunes Match - Reclaim Storage?

now that i have iTunes match and my music library in the cloud, can i remove and reclaim the storage on my hard drive?

Read this first: https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-4112

HT4914 itunes match storage capacity?

What is the capacity of icloud compaired to icloud match??

iTunes Match is for up to 25000 songs, iCloud storage is separate and they provide different functions. If you subscribe to iTunes Match then you don't use any of your iCloud allowance for storing your music (iCloud is for backing your photos, documents, files etc.). Also iTunes purchases aren't included in your iCloud allowance, what you can re-download from the store depends upon what country that you are in
About iTunes Match : http://www.apple.com/itunes/itunes-match/
Once your music is in iCloud, you can play it from any of your devices. Just browse the complete list of all your music stored in the cloud and tap to play to it. You can store up to 25,000 songs in iCloud (more if songs are purchased from the iTunes Store), but only what you play or download is stored on your device. Tap the iCloud download button to download music from an artist, album, or playlist. So you have immediate access to a huge music library without having to worry about the storage space on your device.

TS4124 iTunes Match storage?

I have an iPad 3 & iPhone 4S. I have iTunes Match w/ about 1500 songs. I am still having storage issues where my iPad states that I am using 6.5GB of my 16GB storage for music. I thought w/ Match it stored everything on the cloud not on the device? I've been trying to update apps but its saying I don't have enough storage and that's how I saw how much my music is taking up. Any way I can fix this?

Welcome to the Apple Community.
iTunes match does keep all your content in the cloud, but you need to download it to a device to play it. If after playing something you don't want it on your device anymore, delete it by swiping.

HT4914 iTunes Match storage size

iTunes Match says you can store up to 250,000 songs. But are you limited by the 5GB of free iCloud space, or is extra storage space included with your iTunes Match subscription?

Welcome to Apple Support Communities
The songs you uploaded to iTunes Match don't take iCloud storage. iCloud storage is designed to store files on iCloud, and it's not affected by other services like iTunes Match. You can store up to 250,000 songs without worrying about the iCloud storage

ITunes match storage full error on I devices

If I have iTunes match enabled on i devices it comes up with the message saying say storage is full. I haven't downloaded any songs at all I just stream it. I have never had this issue before until it was time to renew iTunes Match

When you 'stream' music from the cloud it will cache the song on your device (i.e take up storage space). To clear this cache go to Settings -> General -> Usage -> Music then swipe right to left on 'All Music' and select delete. The space will be cleared.
I would have thought though that the system would clear the cache if more space to 'stream' a song is needed.

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