Need advice on Video card for my 1st Gen Mac Pro 667ghz

OK, I'm getting frustrated because I can't seem to find a card to replace my now failing NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT. I was thinking of buying the ATI 4870 but I saw that it needed 800ghz and my Mac Pro has 667ghz..
What are my options? ;-(

The graphics card doesn't care about your memory bus speed. The ATI 4870 will work in any Mac Pro.
<http://www.barefeats.com/nehal05.html>
"As with the Radeon HD 3870 and HD 2600, ATI included both a 32-bit and 64-bit EFI driver in the ROM, so it should work in all models of Mac Pro with the latest drivers. We installed in the Clovertown first generation 8-core Mac Pro (as you can see from the graphs above) and a close colleague installed it in a 2.66GHz Woodcrest 4-core first generation Mac Pro. As long as you have two power feeds for the card in your first generation Mac Pro and have the correct drivers properly installed, it should work fine."

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<http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB999ZM/A?fnode=MTY1NDA5OQ&mco=NDE4NDMxOA>
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