Need Guidance To Overclock K8N Diamond Plus

Helo Everyone,
Newbee R8 Here.Need A Bit Guidance To Overclock My System.I Heard My Mobo Is Not Ideal For Overclock.I Had Never Overclocked It.Even I'm Not So Experienced To Do It.I Just Want To Do Tht As A Experiment.My Current CPU Runs At 2.01 Ghz While CNQ Is Enabled.I Want To Increase The Speed Upto 2.2/2.3 Ghz.Not More Than Tht.Is It Safe To Do So?Pls Tell Me Atleast Which Of Those Settings I Have To Change In Bios.U Can Get My System Info From My SIG.My Current CPU Runs At 38-40 Temperature At Idle State.

Quote from: bose.subhasis on 26-February-07, 22:44:05
well i scaring to give much load. the only things i done is running IE7,firefox,utorrent.shareaza and media player 11 running at the same time. nothing else. while doing this the temperature touching 54-57. as u said it should not cross 55 under load. so am i thinking wht should happen while compressing or decompressing a large size of rar file.i noticed while using compression or utility cpu process always near 100% usage. so wht should i do at this stage.
improve CPU cooling system. re seat CPU,(ensure CPU makes good contact with heatsink) apply new thermal paste, but do not put too much paste!!
replace CPU cooler with better one if need. add extra FANs to the case to improve airflow, re-arrange cables in the case too.(ensure they are not obstacle to the airflow)
get Orthos and test your system. https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=103598.msg760534#msg760534
watch out CPU temp during testing.
to stress CPU for maximum heat, use Toast as well, ensure you can handle 40 min without issue.observe CPU temp during testing too.
you currently use CPU stock vcore right?

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Quote from: bose.subhasis on 26-February-07, 22:44:05
well i scaring to give much load. the only things i done is running IE7,firefox,utorrent.shareaza and media player 11 running at the same time. nothing else. while doing this the temperature touching 54-57. as u said it should not cross 55 under load. so am i thinking wht should happen while compressing or decompressing a large size of rar file.i noticed while using compression or utility cpu process always near 100% usage. so wht should i do at this stage.
improve CPU cooling system. re seat CPU,(ensure CPU makes good contact with heatsink) apply new thermal paste, but do not put too much paste!!
replace CPU cooler with better one if need. add extra FANs to the case to improve airflow, re-arrange cables in the case too.(ensure they are not obstacle to the airflow)
get Orthos and test your system. https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=103598.msg760534#msg760534
watch out CPU temp during testing.
to stress CPU for maximum heat, use Toast as well, ensure you can handle 40 min without issue.observe CPU temp during testing too.
you currently use CPU stock vcore right?

MOVED: K8N Diamond Plus Motherboard overclocking problem.

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
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Quote from: TimeReaper on 15-February-06, 09:15:17
I know this board can reach 300+ by reviews by Tom's Hardware. But I was wondering how I could get my FSB up there? I can't seem to get past the hurtle at 270. Anything above this will make the system fail to start up and I have to clear the BIOS again.
I lowered the HT to the equivalent of 3X, and CPU Multiplier to 8X using a venice core 3500+. I even tried adding voltage to the HT. I'm wondering if I'm missing something in this equation that stops me from getting 300+ FSB? The overclockable items are too many and unexplained.
If someone could spread some light on what else needs to be done, please tell me.
My system is as follows.
MSI K8N Diamond Plus
AMD64 3500+ Venice
OCZ DDR600 Platinum Elite
520 OCZ Powerstream
2x Samsung 200G@Raid 0
Zalman CNPS 9500 LED
Sapphire GTO2
Hi dude,
I have the similar problem as well. Sounds like you are in the bad shape, but yeah, try to loose your RAM settings. First, all settings auto seem to be good, but it's actually not the case. You have to set TRC and TRFC as higher than 12 and 14. I am seeting those to be 14, 18, and it seems to be working great. It will be better to set the burst length as 4 beats. I don't like this board coz I can't set the drive length to be weak instead of normal detected by the Windows. My system can post, but I got problems of playing 3D demos and games, which looks like it's the problem of motherboard. Not mature enough.
My rig:
AMD Athlon64 3700+ @ 2.7GHz
OCZ Platinum Elite DDR600 2.5-4-4-10 Dual Channel
Leadtek PX6800GT @ 425/1200 at 2nd PCIe slot
2 x WD 120GB 7200RPM + Samsung 160GB HD

Anoying issue with K8N Diamond PLUS and overclocking.

I just got the motherboard wehn i overclock and restart the PC either from windows or BIOS etc. The PC will not boot and have to turn it off then turn back on. Apart from this annoying issue it's a great board better theen my A8N SLi Premium mostly due to the extra CPU voltage yay :D Is anyone else getting this issue?
System spcs are
AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ @ 2766MHz (1.6v)
2GB Crucial Tracer PC4000
2x DELL Slient Geforce 7800GTX 256MB card
Espison 700w SLi cert PSU with EPS CPU voltage connected
Koolance EXOS AI Watercooling
MSi K8N Diamond PLUS
2x 150GB Raptor X in RAID-0
Coolermaser RC-830 w/ 4x 140mm + 3x 120mm fans

thats funny mine did that when i first got it , but when i received my new memory and video card everything was normal...so i dont remember if it was the memory or the VC..i just totally forgot about it..funny though i thought it was only me

Cant Overclock With K8N Diamond Plus

I recently upgraded from stock cooling and thought I would give overclocking a try. I have a K8N Diamond Plus with the latest BIOS on the MSI site. When I change any settings in the BIOS to overclock they do not work. They are saved in the BIOS, just not showing in Windows. For example, I set the FSB to 210 just to test, but when I check Nvidia Monitor it still shows the FSB at 200 and the CPU is still running at stock. What could be the problem?

hello,
update your BIOS to ver. 3.0A should be fine. -----> https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=101664.0

K8N Diamond Plus need a -5v rail?

If you read my saga, by now you know my on-board sound card isn't working, I haven't been able to figure out what was the problem, nor did my shop.
Now.. do I need -5v rail for the k8n diamond plus like the K8N Diamond (non-plus) ?

Quote from: HighTest on 14-February-06, 05:15:15
Doubt it, as you don't need it on the non-plus. See my sig, I've got one and my onboard Creative Sound solution is working fine with my Enermax EG565P-VE FMA 2.0 (SLI Compliant).
There's no -5V on the supply, in fact there is no wire on that connector, so it's very evident. What I do see is a mod performed before the board was shipped for retail.
Since I purchased my board in Feb 2005, I suspect most in the channel also don't require the -5V. The Diamond Plus has the mod build into the actual board design, so you shouldn't have any problems there.
only the 1st revision Of DIAMOND have -5V supply. Your's the latest revision without -5V
Quote from: TEKNOW on 02-March-06, 04:20:05
What I mean is, I no longer have crackling/popping/distortion etc. - but my sound is -weak, it's maybe 1/5 the power it used to be on my old P4 rig.
You need the powerful PSU which has 12V and i believe it has been discuss in this threat.

I need help DDR voltage and latencies (K8N Diamond Plus)

I noticed my DDR voltage was incorrect in the bios and I don't know what "Auto" is doing with my timings. I have 2GB of Corsair TWINX2048-3200C2 DDR400 Memory installed on DIMM1 and DIMM2 of my K8N Diamond Plus board.
So far I've made the following changes (as my RAM's specs indicate) in the BIOS but I'm new to this (first build).
DDR Voltage 2.75V
CAS 2.0
tRCD 3
tRP 3
tRAS 6
I left everything else at it's default setting. Are there any other changes I should make?

Quote from: memeticvirus on 14-May-06, 15:41:10
I'm having an issue with the 1.10 BIOS that is preventing me from manualy setting the timings...The problem I'm having right now is deciding what BIOS to install and where to download it. Perhaps you could help me with that?
With pleasure! I had the same problem with the v1.10 BIOS, as did another member here. I flashed BACK to the v1.0 BIOS (make sure to use the command line switched (just run the batch file)) and was able to set timings, and then I flashed directly to the 3.0A BIOS and was able to adjust timings still. See my old thread here.
For my success (I don't know if any or all of these influenced it, but I'm just happy it works) in flashing I did the following:
Download the 1.0 (original) and 3.0A (latest "official") BIOS images from MSI's support site.
Downloaded the DrDos BIOS flash bootable ISO CD image from bootdisk.com
Used my ISO software to add the BIOS image files onto the ISO image.
Burned the ISO to CD.
Booted from the CD
Flashed to 1.0
Cut Power (flipped PSU switch in back), held down the CMOS reset switch button on the mobo and the power button for 45 seconds.
Powered up, set "Optimized Defaults" and set memory voltage to 2.75v and rebooted.
Set all "normal" BIOS parameters (boot devices, et al).
Windows (x64) loaded with no issues, Everest reported timings appropriately
Did the same procedure for the 3.0A BIOS, with similar success.
You can see my post or click on the link in my sig for detailed memory reports.
Quote from: RogerP on 15-May-06, 03:04:55
Are you running just one set of TWINX2048-3200C2's?
Just one pair. I fiddled with the CR and the only result was with the single known good DIMM my latency got slightly slower (like a 5ns drop), but still no love with 2 DIMMS. I think it is just dead. But this is not my story (at least not in this thread)...this is memticvirus's story.

Help! My K8n diamond plus wont start!

HELP! I've bought a MSI k8n diamond plus mother board, and it woont start, i've tested all my other hardware on my other computer, and it works fine. When i'm turning on my computer, it shuts down after a second. What is the problem?
/Jeppe

Quote from: Jeppar on 31-May-06, 21:15:19
What does it mean if it has a short...
There is a 12 Vatx Connecter on my motherboard with 8 pin, but on my power supply theres only four, i've connected it anyway, and it fits in, on the half of the connector.
Could that be the problem?
I use the same type of connectors, no need for converters.
I too have only 4 pins out of the 8 on the board connected, no problem at all....
And yes I do overclock
But big chance it's the PSU that can't cope, it has only 14A @ 12V1 & 18A @ 12V....not very much for a 500W....
Also, try to boot with just 1 stick of memory in slot 1.

K8N Diamond Plus Questions?

I have a some questions about my K8N Diamond Plus. I recently replaced a K8N Neo Nforce 3 board and some other parts as well. The machine has been working very well with this new board so far but there are a few issues I’d like to get resolved.
1. Does anyone know if there is a new BIOS out for this board? I have that problem where at start up it shows that I have a new card in one of my PCI slots even though I do not….it does’nt seem to hurt the machine at all it’s just annoying….i’m wondering if they released a BIOS that corrected that?
2. On my old board I overclocked the machine with no problems at all. Now I’m no expert at over clocking but I do like to dable a little and last time I did I had no problems. This board seems like it will over clock well so I went and got better RAM….i just received some Corsair XMS 2GB DDR 400. I went into the Cell Menu to look at the options for the RAM and saw much, much more then I had on my old Neo board.
I know I need to adjust the CAS Latency, RAS# to CAS# delay, Min RAS# Active Time and the Row Precharge Time for this RAM….people have been saying that their motherboards do not detect the correct timings for this RAM (2.5-3-3-6) so you need to adjust it Manually…along with uping the Voltage to 2.7.
My question is…..do I need to worry about any other options under the MCT Timing Mode besides the 4 I mentioned above? Also…I could’nt seem to adjust the Voltage for the RAM? Every time I high lighted it and hit enter nothing would pop up for me to adjust (and it is white not gray like some things are)….is there something I’m missing that I need to shut off in order to access it???
Thanks ahead of time for anyone that can provide me with some answers.

I have not been able to find any information on those other settings. It is my current project and I am not having a great amount of success.
The defaults for them do not seam to have any adverse effect on stability the system in my signature is my MS-7220 system at FSB=225, CPU multiplier of 12, Memory/FSB =1/1 system is quite stabile if I am not playing with the BIOS settings.
I am working on, some major some minor these current problems. Watch out for number three it will flat blow your BIOS Parameters. It happens on my system every time, but I not been able to find any body that is will to trash the BIOS to verify it, so I can be sure it is a real BIOS problem or my system. “MCP Timing Mode” use to do the same thing, that where the V1.16 BIOS version came form MSI Tech Support sent my that one to fix the problem and this one looks to be the same.
1.   First boot screen the line “DRAM = 400 MHz, Dual-Channel.” It reads 400 MHz do matter what that actual memory transfer rate actually is.
2.   Cell Menu parameter “Adjust DDR Voltage (V)”, has two problems (1) the BIOS default voltage is outside the manufacture specification for normal operating range. BOIS default is 2.65V and manufacture states the Memory Module should be operated between 2.7V minimum and 2.9V maximum. (2) The voltage cannot be set to the manufactures minimum voltage of 2.7V. Starting with the BIOS default voltage of 2.65V and you press “+” key once and voltage jumps to 2.75V, press the “-“ key and the voltage jumps back to BIOS default of 2.65V.
3.   Cell Menu>Memory Configuration>User Config Mode parameter, when set to “Manual” and all of the “User Config Mode” sub-parameters left at BIOS default. The system will not boot. When I say will not boot I mean Blank Screen, no beeps, no drive activity, just case and motherboard fans come on.
4.   Menu “CPU Frequency Configuration”, parameter Adjust CPU VID. CPU correct voltage tracks the set by about 0.03V high. Example: if Adjust CPU VID to 1.375V and actual vCore voltage is about 1.405 Volts. The offset is maintained through the voltage adjustment range of the current CPU.
Roger
When submitting a problem, include a complete list of your system components; include part numbers, all Power Supply Voltages, and their output ratings. It is almost impossible to estimate what your problem is without knowing something about it.

K8N Diamond Plus: I LOVE THIS MB!!

I'm not a huge overclocker...but I soon will be. Sorry i just had to give major props to msi this time around..im spending way too much time with this thing and my gf is getting jealous

Quote from: nthexwn on 03-February-06, 11:44:39
Mine is being a major pain in the arse!
It refuses to recognize my Corsair XMS PC3200 memory as anything but DDR333. I've tried tinkering around with the BIOS several times but it either locks up (thank god for the CMOS reset switch) or doesn't change anything when I reset the frequency (by the way what the heck is with the numbers after the 133, 166, 200mhz, etc. options under the manual memory timings? The ones that say "us" after them. Is that microseconds?). I've even tried overclocking it through the BIOS with no luck and then I tried overclocking it in Windows with Ntune (which MSI seems to have butchered support for) and finally with Corecell which is being stupid and won't let me do any overclocking but the D.O.T options. I had the K8N Neo2 Platinum a while ago and I had control over the FSB with Corecell on that motherboard. When I try to adjust the memory frequency in the BIOS it just gives me ratio options. When I set it to 1/1 with a 200mhz FSB it STILL only runs at DDR333. I'm not even allowed to force the damn thing! Also, all of those smaller memory timings are nice to have, but I don't understand them all and it forces you to set some of them to settings other than auto if you want to, say, change the command timing from 2T to 1T (which I still haven't been able to do without a lockup). On top of that, the SPD is detecting different timings EVERY TIME I RESET CMOS. I seriously need a newbie mode where it just lets me adjust the 4 standard timings (my memory supports 2,2,2,5 at DDR400 in dual channel but this motherboard doesn't friggin' understand that!), frequency, voltage, and command timing, but instead I have to deal with all of these obscure timings that I've never heard of, and when I get them wrong I have to start all over again. The documentation is sparse at best and the amateur English that MSI speaks in all of their documentation is infuriating. I swear my purchasing decisions will be based on comprehension of the English language by the company that I'm purchasing from rather than actual product quality in the future.
I'm about to go nuclear... I'm going to do some browsing here as I assume that I'm not alone on this issue?
No signature yet so here are my system specs:
-MSI K8N Diamond Plus
-AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Venice)
-1Gb (2x512) Corsair XMS PC3200 PRO (2,2,2,5)
-Raidmax 460W PSU (Only 14Amps on +12v, new power supply due for delivery on the 6th)
-MSI NX7800GT
-WD2500JS
-Don't think other components are related to issues
OMG buddy !! R U KIDDING ME....why the **** would u even get this board if you dont even know the first thing about overclocking....i suggest you educate yourself first then start asking questions...I think this board is too big for your britches...you should definitely stick with a nice and simple intel board especially if you dont even know how to put the ram into dual channel mode(do a search buddy its there!! the search button on the top of this page isnt just for looks!!!).....geeez how do you expect to do anything else..i'm just scared that you'll fry your board before you even get a chance to enjoy it...i have the same board and have no problems running 2 gigs pc 3200 (running dual channel), using ntune, manipulating the FSB or anything else...what the hell r u doing using core cell to overclock ...if your going to over clock dont pussy around fiddling with that thing...Do everything manually!! ...get cpuz get everest or something ...OMG ... PLEAASE for the sake of the board DO SOME RESEARCH
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MSI K8N Diamond Plus - Guide to my first week

OK, not a newb here, but been around the block quite a bit. MSI K8N Diamond Plus is my 5th A64 mobo (ECS K8M800, my daily undestroyed computer, K8T800, my 12 year olds gamer, Asus A8V Deluxe, first 939 system, Abit AN8 SLI, first SLI gamer, and now the MSI Diamond Plus). Had the KDP (K8N Diamond Plus) for more than a week now, and here's what I've learned.
This is state of the art again, and we have no one to blame but ourselves for the pain this causes us when we upgrade like lunatics
And as usual, the drivers and BIOS are al Dente (i.e. not cooked enought yet, a little raw)
MSI is also oddly silent on this system, which is wierd, as they are a large company, and specifically cater to enthusiasts. But their BIOS guys are MIA. Hopefully this will not be forever. Asus, ABIT, DFI, Epox are always fast with fixes
The board is a nice design, with everything basically accessible, as much as any other board. Lots of purposeful components, not too many dumb frills. No tooty fruity colors, but rather practical parts.
The new 2 piece NForce chipset is fine, and the MSI guys gave us a decent, but funky cooler. It gets a little warm to the touch when you pound on it with Prime95, or Quake4, but other than that it is fine
The manual has a zillion typos, and fortunately for us in this forum, we have shared what we've learned. The translation from Chinese to English leaves quite a bit to be desired, and hopefully, MSI will learn from Asus and Abit and get a better translation service. In 2006 this is just plain stupid, especially with a $225 board
As usual, the mobo supplied tweaker utilities are just aweful. They look like a hallucination from a Hunter S Thompson book, and they work about as well. Core center is a sad state of affairs, and the rest of them just burrow their way into your otherwise stable system and cause it to have poor behavior. And therefore as usual, the BIOS is the best way, if slowest, to tweak this bundle of parts
Which brings us to the BIOS. IMHO, the worst one I've seen on a high end board. ZERO explanation for half the settings (this is not strange in and of itself, BIOS is still a black art, but in a tweakers board, we should have some basic explanation )
There seem to be adequate settings in the BIOS for all sorts of doodads and gizmos, but who the heck knows what half of them are. Roger points out rightfully, that we now need to "Tune" across all these different intermediary bus structures and test. But with the lack of info from either NVidia, MSI or anyone else for that matter, its kinda hard to know where to start.
The board is clearly sensitive, which is a result of it being high strung. This is no different than any "first out" product I've ever bought. Most take 2 or 3 turns of the crank to get totally stable and forgiving. This one hated my OCZ platinum EL 2Gb kit memory, and it brought out the worst in one of the SLI based EVGA 7800 GT COs. These components worked in the Abit AN8 SLI (although not always great), but the MSI has ZERO tolerance for even the slightest pertubation from the memory. It was BSOD city until I removed both of these components by process of elimination that took probably 100 hours
Once I removed the bad components, and replaced the memory with Geil Ultra X 2x512 2-2-2-5, it worked great, ran Prime95 for 10 hours with no errors, and seems reasonably stable. I've RMA-d the bad 7800GT CO back to EVGA, and will report back on how SLI behaves when I get the new one (cross shipped of course, I haveno patience )
I also now need to replace the 2Gb RAM kit with something that the board will tolerate. I may RMA the 2Gb kit back to OCZ and try another one, but I dunno. I love OCZ but I have a bad feeling about this, even though they have great!!! support. I may try OCZ PC4000 or the RAM that Roger successfully used.
I did upgrade to the 1.16 BIOS, and found that some new things were added, as well as voltage control in Cell was a little better, but registration of changes in voltage is still a disaster. I adjusted a bunch of times, it didn't register, and I ended up smoking a new A64 3700+ Diego with 1.95 volts, even though the BIOS claimed it was 1.53. I had to rebot to see what was going on. The Thermalright XP-90 kept the proc from melting down through the earth
Finally, I hope this board attracts more people, and therefore more tweakers that can figure out all these gadgets and settings. Everyone flocked to the Asus X16 SLI product, which is too bad, as this one needs lots o' folks to hack it up for us to figure out what is going on.
The on board Creative audio sounds lousy to my ears, and I will replace it with an Audigy 2ZS gamer that I had in the Abit. It just sounds better, but hopefully the drivers will not trash my newly stable system. Creative scares me, they scare me alot.
I've been able to get the CPU up to 2.4Ghz, with a .5 volt bump to the CPU and 2.9 volts into the Geil memory. So far, so stable, no smoke coming out yet
I hope this info is somewhat valuable to someone on this board. I will post details of all changes that I make, as others are doing, so we can at least take care of ourselves with this thing.

Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
Which brings us to the BIOS. IMHO, the worst one I've seen on a high end board. ZERO explanation for half the settings (this is not strange in and of itself, BIOS is still a black art, but in a tweakers board, we should have some basic explanation )
There seem to be adequate settings in the BIOS for all sorts of doodads and gizmos, but who the heck knows what half of them are. Roger points out rightfully, that we now need to "Tune" across all these different intermediary bus structures and test. But with the lack of info from either NVidia, MSI or anyone else for that matter, its kinda hard to know where to start.
first of all, i do think that all the settings in the BIOS have an explanation in the manual, even if it's a basic one. if that explanation doesn't tell you everything in detail, is because if you do need a detailed explanation of the settings, you probably shouldn't be messing around with those settings.
Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
I did upgrade to the 1.16 BIOS, and found that some new things were added, as well as voltage control in Cell was a little better, but registration of changes in voltage is still a disaster. I adjusted a bunch of times, it didn't register, and I ended up smoking a new A64 3700+ Diego with 1.95 volts, even though the BIOS claimed it was 1.53. I had to rebot to see what was going on. The Thermalright XP-90 kept the proc from melting down through the earth.
wanna tell me how did you get 1.95V on that mobo?
Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
I've been able to get the CPU up to 2.4Ghz, with a .5 volt bump to the CPU and 2.9 volts into the Geil memory. So far, so stable, no smoke coming out yet
a 0.5V bump? again, you must be joking. maybe 0.05V.

K8N Diamond Plus, SLI and Creative X-Fi cards, anyone running similar?

Hi there!
I've got an ASUS A8N32-SLI board and my X-Fi card does not work with it, nor does it for many other people with similar setups.
See here:
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=31426
and here:
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=26289
I get crackling and popping noises when running most games, e.g. BF2, Fear, FarCry. When my 2x7800GTX's are in SLI mode it crackles loads, e.g. start far cry, click options, and listen. When i disable SLI mode it crackles less, but it still crackles. Many others encounter similar issues with their systems that are not identical but the symptoms are similar - high load = crackling/popping.
My question is:
Is anyone here sucessfully running any X-Fi card (music, fatality, elite pro, etc) with 2x video cards and NO crackling/popping in BF2, FEAR and FarCry?
I've already had a replacement X-Fi card from creative which their tech guy said "should" fix it, lol, I'm wondering wether to replace my A8N32-SLI with an K8N Diamond Plus to fix the problem. Besides, the MSI board has better PCI slot location and works with nTune too unlike the ASUS board.

What's going on guys.
I hate to see peep's having soooo many prob's and it sucks major BALLZ. The reason why I'm reposting is that I encountered a new issue. Not with my rig, but a friend's.
We pretty much have the same setup. Differences are he's using 2GB of Corsair DDR400 (which is picking up as DDR333 as well), different branded video cards (I'm running two EVGA 7800GT's in SLi, he's running two BFG 7800GT's in SLi), XFi Platinum (me, Fatality Edition) and he's got a dedicated ITE RAID PCI card for his RAID from his previous rig. Configured his BIOS pretty much the same way I have it running (he wanted to Overclock his AMD x2 4400+ to 2.6 GHz), but when it came to installing Windows we kept getting BSOD's during installation. Looked over things numerous times and it didn't make sense. We resetted the BIOS to default settings and Windows went through without a hitch. We tried OC'ing it one more time and Windows was fine. But, when he installed and ran Quake 4, either Windows or the game would just lock up. He booted back into the BIOS and put the CPU back at stock frequency of 2.2 GHz. Game ran flawlessly afterwards. That points at the processor. The only differences were we both have different stock fans and his CPU was manufactured in July '05. Mine in Sept '05. His rig also reports the infamous "Phantom" PCI modem as well.
Quake 4 is the only game he's got installed so far, but he reports everything is set to their highest qualities, including resolution. He said it runs great with no anomalies. He's going to install Dawn of War and Winter Assault later I know.
Me? I haven't run into any issues with any games either, including F.E.A.R. as Hydrasworld asked. Both of our sound cards are in the Communication PCI Slot of the motherboard. My take on the OC issue is since we're using different proc's from different wafers, maybe my chip had revisions in September that the July proc my friend has didn't. Also, his heatsink has one less copper pipe I noticed. I'll still drop by for help. Good luck to you all and the only other thing I can add is try using the latest drivers for each piece of hardware you've got.
LPB
P.S. If you can and you purchased a retail version of the processor, on one of the sides of the carton insert for the processor, a date should be printed. Maybe that can explain some issues. Once more, my proc was manufactured September 15th, 2005.

New K8N diamond plus questions please help.

Hi all well i am new to this msi site and am thinking of buying the new MSI K8N Diamond plus motherboard, the problem i have is that i have been a fan of ASUS and have had there last 3 SLI motherboards of which i have not been happy with.
Well i am totaly into overclocking and have an Opteron 165, balistix ram, 600w Enermax PSU, 2x Gainward 6800gt's,
what i am looking for is a motherboard that does what i says it will do, yes the asus a8n32 was a great motherboard but has a limitation on the voltage if useing the new E4-E6 stepping cores of which would only give a max voltage of 1.58v of which the asus spec said 1.76v.
What i am asking you chaps is is this a great motherboard, can you play with all the coms settings without any limitation, or do you think that the DFI motherboard is better.
If you can let me have some info on this motherboard that would be great, as i can not seam to get any reply from MSI about some information.
what i am looking for is what is the max CPU voltage and is there any limitation on it for some chips.
what is the max voltage for the ram
what is the max voltage for the chipset.
any help on this would be great.

Quote from: Stick on 23-February-06, 17:46:08
there is no mobo that alows 4V for the memory. i think the DFI goes up to 3.4V and you can use a DDR Booster to get to 3.8V. the only mobo that is capable to pass 3.3V is the DFI since you can have the choice to select from which rail the memory will be powered (the 3.3V or the 5V). you don't have that option in any other mobo.
Hi thanks for the mail but i have just copied this from msi about this motherboard, see below.
1.Adjust CPU FSB Frequency:
You can adjust the desired "CPU FSB Frequency" by using "+,-" key. The default value of AMD Athlon™64 is 200MHz. The maximum value is 450MHz.
2.AMD Overclocking Configuration (CPU Ratio):
If the CPU is Athlon™64 FX series, the ratio range is from 4 to 25.
If the CPU is Athlon™64 series, the ratio should be set according to its model number. For example, the ratio range of 3000+ is from 4 to 9, and the 3200+ is from 4 to 10.
3.Adjust Extra CPU Voltage:
This is for adjusting CPU voltage while overclocking. Following the CPU default value, the maximum is 1.8V. The interval is 0.05V.
4.Adjust DDR Memory frequency:
The Memclock is the major part which has four different frequencies to match many kinds overclocking memory modules. The memory frequency settings includes DRAM/FSB=1/2, 2/3, 5/6, 1/1.
5.DDR Memory Voltage:
This is for adjusting memory voltage while overclocking. K8N Diamond Plus has a special design.We use jump to distinguish two level arrangement of voltage. In this way it can get maximum 4.1V for overclocking modules. As you can see the below pictures, the left one is the standard mode when jump hat is located at the top postion. The default value is 2.5V, and the maximum is 3.2V. The interval is 0.05V. As the right one, it is overclocking mode when jump hat is located at the under postion. The default value is 3.2V, and the maximum is 4.1V. The interval is 0.05V.
What i am asking is there any limitation on the cpu voltage like the asus a8n32 as this had a max voltage of 1.58v due to it having a limit put on it by recomendation of amd.

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Just built a new rig with the K8N Diamond Plus and am very pleased with the board -- worked great from first power up and with a little BIOS tweaking I have no trouble getting a 50% overclock from my dual core Opteron 170. No headaches at all, unlike my previous experiences with Abit boards.
The AMD heatsink fan unit (with heatpipes) provided with the 170 is not bad at all, but I'd like to replace it with a more capable unit, along the lines of the Zalman 9500, Scythe Ninja, Tuniq Tower 120, Thermalright XP-120, etc. The tall heatsink of the Nvidia NB is close to the CPU socket and quite high, so I'm not sure if any of these will fit. Anyone using one of these or similar heatsinks ? Please let me know if they fit, or did not fit.
Since I could find any of the 7800GTX 512MB boards I wanted, I'm using a single MSI X1900XT card right now but plan to go SLI in the future with 7900GTX cards driving the 30" Dell monitor. The ATI video board and nVidia mainboard surprisingly get along great, with no crashes so far and 3DMark06 scores above 6000 -- the X1900XT is an impressive piece, and much faster than the X800XT-PE I had in my previous computer. But the fan can be extremely loud and the Catalyst Control Center sucks. Unfortunately the old ATI control panel is no longer offered...

TimeReaper,
The problems your are talking about are not uncommon with this MS-7220. The BIOS Clear Circuit physically has problems and that is not something they are going fix with a BIOS upgrade.
The BIOS Clear Circuit actually trashing the values stored in the CMOS by not doing a complete clearing of the CMOS is causing the problem. What leaves trash for parameters, for the BIOS to use when rebooting.
Let give you an example that fits your case. You can set the BIOS to turn the system on at any give time and date. So, if the trash in CMOS is in those parameters storage location. Therefore, whatever trash value gets stored in the locations, as a dated and time, will turn the computer on at that time. So, you could of had the computer come on in the meddle of the night two week later. Now, think of all the functions the BIOS have and how many weird things people are having and do not know why. There is one guy that is a regular on the Forum how has been fighting a problem I know is caused by trash in the BIOS CMOS, but Strick and I have ask him to do a good CMOS clearing and he just will not do it. I even wrote out in great deal the over night CMOS clear procedure I use. It is a pain in the ass, but some times, I have too use it. I just had to use it, upgraded V3.09 using short CMOS Clear and had no problem. Used the short procedure again when upgrading to V3.0A and everything when to hell, had to finally use the long overnight procedure and reinstall Windows to get computer to run right again.
NoBS, when your computer goes BOOO during the night just plain it o MSI.
Roger
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K8N Diamond Plus boot problems

I just built a new computer and it was working fine for about a month. Then one morning when I started it up it wouldn't turn on. The front LED's turn on, and the fans all start, but nothing ever shows up on the screen. The set of four lights on the back show R R
G G
Nothing has changed since the pc was working fine. I haven't changed any bios settings or added any hardware or software. I did try resetting the bios using the CMOS jumper, but this didn't change anything. The lights on the back show that it is initializing ide drivers, but in the manual it also shows that it is one of the last steps in the start-up process, so i would think that the memory check, processor count, msi logo ect. should appear on the screen like it normally does. However, the LED that blinks when the hard drive is active never lights up, but when i open the case and feel the hard drive i can feel it vibrating like it is functioning properly. And if it is a hardrive failure, then shouldn't the bios still start up and show up on the monitor? I have heard that many weird problems can be attributed to the psu, but I have a 500w Antec Smartpower 2.0, which is a pretty reliable psu from what i've heard. Any help or suggestions would be welcome. Also, how would i test individual components to find out what is causing the problem? I think since everything is within a couple of months old i should be able to get replacements. Thanks in advance for any help.
System Spec:
MSI K8N Diamond Plus
AMD Athlon X2 3800+
Nvidia 7600 GT
Maxtor DiamondMax 300gb ultra16
2gb Corsair Twinx xms ddr400
500w Antec Smartpower 2.0
Thanks!!

Quote from: Mikeyp926 on 15-August-06, 12:58:47
You guys are awesome! Thanks a bunch for the info on ram, I feel like I understand it better and I looked and found all the stuff in the bios that you guys were talking about. I'm downloading speedfan currently and will go install it on my other computer. I tried swapping the sticks of memory, but i ran into the same problem i did before. So i'm assuming that i can safely say one stick is faulty right? And do any of you guys have any experience trying to get replacement memory from crucial? I'll have to go poke around their website also. Well, thank you all so much for all of your help. This is my first home built pc and i'm trying to learn alot about them. Once everything is running properly i may try a little overclocking, but i'd like to get everything running smoothly first. Just out of curiosity, what would make a stick of ram go bad like that? It was only a month old, and i thought crucial xms was pretty good ram. Is it not? or did i just get unlucky?
Thanks a ton for all the answers, this forum is the most helpful one i've ever seen. thanks!
Maybe that you're unlucky to get those faulty RAM. Crucial RAM is not bad if you get the better performance if you're ocing your PC if or else get the value RAM if you don't oced.
Quote from: Svenomous on 15-August-06, 12:55:00
Speedfan 4.29 works with the K8N Diamond Plus. I have it running now
Ok. Get it but not sure about MBM as it seems that it don't support it. :p

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