Need help adding 2nd hard drive

Hey guys whats up. I need some advice about adding a second hard drive. Right now i have a WD 320GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive running on the primary IDE. Everything is fine but i wanted to get a smaller and faster drive for the operating system and for some small video editing. I recently purchaced a Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive.
Now the questions:
1. How should i assing the drives? (which master/slave/cable select)
2. Also am i going to have to do anything since im going to have one on the IDE and another on SATA?
3. Any advice that you have...
What i was thinking is this...i should disconect my current HD and hook up the new one to SATA port 2, and set it to master(or CS maybe). Format it and then install the operating system. Once OS installed and working, ill hook back up the IDE drive and make the setting to slave(or CS maybe). Then uninstall the operating system from the IDE.
Thanks for any input

Thanks NovJoe,
What setting (master/slave/cable select) should i set the IDE drive to? And yes i do want my OS on the raptor.
Thanks for your advice...didnt think that anyone was going to.

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