Need help buying modestly priced mac that will run CS6

I work as the Communications Director at a very small veterans service non-profit with limited resources. I am not a graphic designer, but since we are very small all of the design projects fall on me being that I am in charge of creating all of our marketing materials and outreach videos. I have experience using Ps, Ai, and Id, but only on very high end computers (In the graphic design lab at college). Seeing that we don't have a ton of money to invest in new equipment I am wondering what are some modest specs I would need for CS6 to run smoothly. We have about $1,300 to spend so I am looking at refurbished models, although I could possibly squeeze a bit extra money if someone thinks it would make a big difference.
2 things I need to consider
1) This is my only computer so I would like a macbook for the portability but am definitely open to getting a 21in iMac if it is a game changer.
2) Longevity- A $1,300 investment is a large one and the reason I pressed so hard for a mac was its dependability and security. Bottomline is that if I am not still at the organization in 2 or 3 years I still want the next person (who will probably have much less computer, graphic design experience) to be able to inherit a computer that they can learn creative suite on and will function smoothly.
Here are two refurbs I have been looking at, let me know what you think or if you have other suggestions please feel free to share. All input is welcome as I don't have a ton of experience in the nitty gritty of CPU/GPU specs.
Macbook Pro 13 in.
Originally released February 2013
13.3-inch (diagonal) Retina display; 2560-by-1600 resolution at 227 pixels per inch 
8GB of 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
 256GB Flash Storage
 720p FaceTime HD Camera
 Intel HD Graphics 4000
iMac 21.7 in
Originally released September 2013
21.5-inch (diagonal) LED-backlit display with IPS technology; 1920-by-1080 resolution
8GB memory
1TB hard drive1
Intel Iris Pro graphics
Built-in FaceTime HD camera
iMac 21.7 in
Originally released October 2012
 21.5-inch LED-backlit glossy widescreen display
 8GB memory
 1TB hard drive
 NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 512MB
 Built-in FaceTime HD camera

I have the exact MacBook Pro 13-inch retina (I got mine from refurbished as well) and it runs CS6 very nicely with no lag except when applying extreme filters where it takes a few seconds but that is usual.
MacBook Pro 13-inch
13.3-inch (diagonal) Retina display; 2560-by-1600 resolution at 227 pixels per inch 
8GB of 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
 256GB Flash Storage
 720p FaceTime HD Camera
 Intel HD Graphics 4000
That works well for me and the retina display is very nice for editing!
Also, you could check to see if there's a 128GB model of the one listed above to save some money unless you need at least that much storage.

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> Since I don't know how to explain this easily, I'm using
the table below as an
> example.
>
> I want to create a MySQL query that will return only
records that have
> matching counter-parts where 'col1' = 'ABC'.
>
> Notice the 'ABC / GHI' record does not have a
counter-matching 'GHI / ABC'
> record. This record should not be returned because there
is no matching
> counter-part. With this table, the 'ABC / GHI' record
should be the only one
> returned in the query.
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> How can I create a query that will do this?
>
>
> id | col1 | col2
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2) How much could they expect to pay (reasonably) for it?
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* 1 GB or more RAM
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* PowerPC G4 and G5 computers will benefit greatly from having > 1 GB RAM
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http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/mac_mini

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BACKGROUND INFO (Questions listed below)
I need some help figuring out the best hardware configuration for a new laptop. I’m a student at a design school and I will be using the laptop to mainly run After Effects and to a lesser extent Photoshop and Illustrator. I don’t need to worry about 3D rendering software or Premier Pro. I am primarily interested in getting the best performance during editing. I am not looking for the best performance for final output. I would prefer to sacrifice final output times for better editing/interface performance.
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I’ve been reading up on optimal hardware configurations for CS5 but my understanding is still a little foggy and I would like to use this thread to figure out how to build the best machine for my budget. The budget is about $1400 to $1600 CANADIAN after tax.
I DON’T need help finding the laptop. I will search for it on my own. I just need to understand the best hardware to purchase within my budget.
I realize that it is probably impossible to buy the laptop I want with the hardware configuration I need “off the shelf”. Instead I will be looking for a good base model (~$900-$1100) and I will purchase the necessary hardware upgrades separately. I will not be purchasing a Mac.
Right now I’m thinking of a machine built something like this:
- 15”-16” screen (17” models are too big/heavy)
- Mid to high end i5 processor OR entry level i7 quad core
- 8GB RAM (I would go to 12GB, but it’s hard to find a 15”-16” laptop with 3 memory slots)
- SSD to replace HDD (However, if possible, I would like a laptop with dual HDD support or swap the optical drive for another HDD. If I had access to 2 drives, I would have and HDD/SSD combo).
- Medium/high end NVIDIA GPU to take advantage of OpenGL while editing.
QUESTIONS
1) Does the “Render Multiple Frames Simultaneously” option enhance general editing performance (applying filters, scrubbing through the timeline, reverting history states)? Or does it ONLY help speed up RAM previews and final output? Does it reduce the length of RAM previews?
1b) Is this option even necessary to enable on 64bit systems? (As far as I understand it was used to solve a problem where 32bit systems/software would only recognize 4GB of RAM per instance of AE).
1c) If I turn this option on to help with RAM previews, would I be hindering general editing performance in any way? Or does this option have basically zero drawbacks?
2) How come “Actual CPUs that will be used” will read 0 even if the sum total of RAM assigned to the CPUs plus the RAM reserved for other applications is less than the total available system RAM (on a 64bit system)? For example, I currently have 4GB RAM and 2 installed CPUs. I have 1.5GB reserved for other programs and when I set 0.75GB per CPU both CPUs are used. However when I set 1GB per CPU then 0 CPUs are used, even though the total RAM adds up to only 3.5GB.
CPU
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4.) What is the difference between an i3 and an i5 processor even if they are clocked at the same speed? How does an i5 460M compare on the grand scheme of things?
RAM
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STORAGE/SWAP
7.) Should I replace the HDD with an SSD? I'm looking for snappy interface performance while editing. I would think that if the RAM fills up it would be best to have the SSD for scratch/cache.
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10.) Would it be better to have 8GB of RAM and an SSD, or 12GB of RAM and an HDD? Explain why.
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> 1) Does the “Render Multiple Frames Simultaneously” option
enhance general editing performance (applying filters, scrubbing through
the timeline, reverting history states)? Or does it ONLY help speed up
RAM previews and final output? Does it reduce the length of RAM
previews?
It only increases rendering speed for RAM previews and rendering for final output. In After Effects CS5, it doesn't decrease the length of RAM previews. (In CS4, it does.)
1b) Is this option even necessary to enable on 64bit
systems? (As far as I understand it was used to solve a problem where
32bit systems/software would only recognize 4GB of RAM per instance of
AE).
You misunderstood. Yes, it's still relevant on 64-bit computers. Moreso, in a way. (I'd rather not spend my entire Sunday writing out detailed answers to satisfy idle curiosity, so I'm not going to give all the technical detail to that answer.)
> 1c) If I turn this option on to help with RAM previews,
would I be hindering general editing performance in any way? Or does
this option have basically zero drawbacks?
It takes a small but nonzero time for the background processes to start up when they need to be used and shut down when they're done. And as they sit waiting, they take up a little bit of memory. So, it's not exactly correct to say that there are no downsides to leaving it on. But it's close. I leave it on.
> 2) How come “Actual CPUs that will be used” will read 0 even
if the sum total of RAM assigned to the CPUs plus the RAM reserved for
other applications is less than the total available system RAM (on a
64bit system)? For example, I currently have 4GB RAM and 2 installed
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CPU both CPUs are used. However when I set 1GB per CPU then 0 CPUs are
used, even though the total RAM adds up to only 3.5GB.
4GB - 1.5GB for other software leaves 2.5 GB for After Effects.
If you have 1GB assigned per background CPU, then the foreground takes 1.2x that = 1.2GB. That leaves 1.3GB for background processes, which is enough for one background process. There's no point in starting only one background process to do rendering, so it doesn't bother. (Note: When background processes are rendering, the foreground process isn't rendering.)
> 3.) Considering the fact that I am more concerned with
smooth performance while editing rather than final output speeds, would
it be better to get a dual core i5 clocked around 2.5 or a quad core i7
clocked around 1.8?
Get the quad-core. That gives you a greater total number of cycles. And After Effects works very well with mutliple processors, even beyond Render Multiple Frames Simultaneously multiprocessing. An entirely unrelated sort of multiprocessing (multithreading) spreads work out to multiple processors.
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so, how should I be calculating optimal RAM based on # of cores. Should
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12GB of RAM. Because After Effects likes RAM. (If you're thinking of deliberatly using virtual memory to swap memory to the hard disk, don't. That's a performance killer.)
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I see all the upgrades as additional memory or a faster process?
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The main reason for this purchase is to play live and use backing tracks and record found sounds and make creative songs.
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The main reason for this purchase is to play live and use backing tracks and record found sounds and make creative songs.
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http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1661
Firewire symbol:

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I want to purchase a powerbook that will run a music program like MOTU or Pro Tools as well as run Final Cut Pro without being sluggish...any help?

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Trying to get icloud, installed snow leopard, now it says I need OSX, but my processor isn't right for it. Is this possible? Do I need to buy a nw computer? will I loose all my mobile me storage?

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I read somewhere that you could hold down the "X" key after the tone to force the system to load OS X but as far as I can tell that is nothing more than a fairy tale. I have tried it in the past and I tried it repeatedly last night.
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The kicker is that even after repairing OS 9 permissions, I tired a restart and ran into the same issue. I got out of it the same way with the Option - a very powerful command at start up if your system is configured efficiently to use it. I did not try the OS 9 on the drive with OS 10.4.3 but I guess it would be the same. I'll try it if I am ever forced into it.
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I'm looking for a Mac mini that will run OS9 for a legacy accounting application. If anyone has one for sale please let me know. Thanks.

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