Need help creating illusion of a long road going off into the distance...

I can't for the life of me seem to figure something as simple sounding as this out... I've spent 2 whole days now working with every different program in the CS4 Master Collection and am ready to shoot myself.
I'm trying to create a nice banner and in it is a street sign and the road it's naming going off into the distance as if you were standing on the road looking straight down it forever into the vanishing point.
For some stupid reason this is the hardest illusion of all. In PS CS4 I create a really long Road as a Smart object,and then try to turn it into a 3d postcard so I can rotate it, but only the part that is seen within the boundaries of the Banner renders in 3D, the rest of the layer that hangs outside the border is cropped.
I want to be able to put a light on it and texture it to make it look realistic, other wise I would have just drawn a triangle with lines on it. So I try using After effects to at least handle this part. I created a really long (20,000 px) road in Illustrator, ported it into AE, but AE kinda does the same thing, I am only able to see a piece of the road, the ends are invisible, so only the middle, say 5,000 px of the road are rendered when I rotate it into the plane I want!
Is there a tutorial or something that can help me achieve a realistic looking long road?
Thanks All
Aza

My advice is to use good old perspective transform, along with Scale and maybe distort to change the vanishing point. Edit/transform/perspective. These transform parameters are very easy to work with and will create a good visual perspective. Not a good idea to use Warp or Liquify because this will throw your perspective off. Best thing to do is light the image from above before transforming. This is an excellent use for Smart Objects.
Another slightly more complex way is to use the vanishing point filter. Copy your flat road and paste it into a carefully created vanishing point grid.
Getting into the 3D tools for a simple task like this, just creates more things that can go wrong, as you have discovered.

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• From within Aperture, import images from the hard drive folder into Aperture selecting "Store files in their current location."
• Review pix for completeness (e.g. a 500-pic shoot has 500 valid images showing).
• Reformat CF in camera, and archive DVDs of originals off site.
Note that the "eject" steps above are important in order to avoid mistakenly working on removable media.
I strongly recommend that every Aperture user spend $35 and work through the tutorial CD Apple Pro Training Series: Aperture 2 (Apple Pro Training Series) by Ben Long, Richard Harrington, and Orlando Luna (Paperback - May 8, 2008), Amazon.com. Note that the value is in working the tutorial, not in using the book as a manual.
Good luck!
-Allen Wicks

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Boy - it's been a year and a half since you asked this question! So not sure if you're still out there.....
Looks like no one replied. Did you ever figure it out? I need to do the same thing...

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