Need help extending wireless signal.

Hey all. So here at home we have the BT Home Hub 4 with BT Infinity. Our house is three stories tall, and the router is on the first floor. On the first floor, the connection is fast and reliable. Up here on the third floor (where my bedroom is), the connection to my PC is okay (slower than downstairs but reliable and stays connected), but the connection to any mobile devices is very unreliable and slow (very common disconnects).
I'd like to consider my options about boosting the signal so it's stronger on the third floor. What type of devices can I get to do this? Lets exclude a wired connection for now to save me running cable around the house (I don't know how practical that would be). I saw that BT are selling devices which you plug into the mains and run a cable from that to your device. Out of interest, would that offer any increase in speed if I plugged it in here in my bedroom? Surely because the original signal has the same distance to travel, it wouldn't make a difference? Failing that option, what else is there? I've heard about wireless boosters/repeaters but i'm not sure how well they work and if I need any extra kit to use them.
Also as a side question, does anyone know why my PC can pick up a reliable signal on the third floor, but my phone/games console struggle to do so? My wireless adapter connected to my PC is like 10 years old, so you'd think my newer devices would have better receiving capabilities.
Thanks for any help.

The BT devices you are referring to send the ethernet signal through your mains wiring, so you get a "wired" system without having to install any new wiring. You can get models that just have an ethernet socket, or ones that have a WiFi hotspot as well. Be aware that the speed you get through them is very much dependent on the nature of your mains wiring. The claimed 500Mbps speed is only achievable under laboratory conditions.
If you go for the WiFi ones, you get a second wireless point in your home, and your devices can connect to whichever gives the best signal. Most gadgets can remember multiple WiFi passwords, so it's easy to hop between your Home Hub and the hotspot.
For your side question, it will depend to a large extent on the size and orientation of the wireless antenna. As gadgets keep getting smaller, the antennas do as well, which may well wipe out the gains from the more advanced circuitry.

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My Home has many rooms and walls are trick, which reduces the signal. To improve the signal, I bought 2 Airport Express, but never worked properly.
Welcome to Apple's discussion groups.
What some people do wrong with network extension is to put the extending device too far from the main station. Try moving them to a point half way between the main station and the remote client.
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http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2347845&start=1
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