NEED HELP..MSI {6712} KT4v-L bios 1.9

First i need help flashing my bios i have 1.8 now
and want 1.9. I am useing xp pro fully updated on an ntsf file format i have no floppy never needed i have a usb 64meg thumb drive . I do not overclock ever ....
I have read several places how to do this but all are a little different so i decided to ask the real pro you guys.
would some one give me a full very detailed description on how i can do this preferbally soemone who has run into the same situation i have any help would be much appreciated.
MSI KT4V-L {6712}
AMD 2400+ {266}
PNY 256 DDR {333}
PNY 5200 DDR FX 128
Creative Audigy 2 Platinum
Sony 16X DVD
Sony DVD-+RW-+
Creative Labs MegaWorks THX 6.1 600 watts
Antec Lanboy
Antec 300 True Power
Thermaltake 3 speed intake
Thermaltake 3 speed exhaust

i had exactly the same problem - na floppy ever needed
1. burn a cd with ami flash or other flash program and your bios file
2. boot the system with your ( in my case windows 98 se ) cd
3. choose to boot with cd-rom
4. run amiflash from your burned cd
5. enjoy !!

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Hi,
I descided to update my bios since it wasnet updated,
and i found the BIOS and chooced the NON raid One. Downloaded made a Bootable USB Drive.
and Typed, Afudos.exe And E1761IMS.10H. and it started Updating and in the end it sayd updated.
i Restarted PC was working then next restart It was Blackscreen, i have since 3 days now reading forums how to fix but theirs not much.
i have tried removing the Red and Black Cable, that Reset CMOS Settings. it did work, but after Shutdown same blackscreen. tried this option again didn't work anymore.
i have also tried Updating Bios Blind but doesn't work either im pressing keys wrong. or im not getting into the USB Drive.
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RX-8 Thanks for the reply,
No, i did not use flash.bat when i got to the point to write i wrote. Afudos.exe and E1761IMS.10H i watched a dude
when he made it on Youtube that's why i didn't include flash.bat.
whats the right BIOS Update for a GT780R MSI Laptop ?
is it the NON Raid System
or the Raid System one.
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Need help msi 945pl neo crashed within 3 months use

need help. my mobo doesnot start, no post, no beep.
1.main board 945pl neo(MS-7236)
2.video card: msi RX300HM TD128E
3.CPU Type: pentium 4 3Ghz (531)
4.Memory Type:512mb ddr2 533 kingston
5.Power Supply Type:generic 500W
6.Operating System:windows xp
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3. tech/info
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Quote from: Hans on 24-January-07, 17:45:18
Hi!
This stop error can have more then one cause.
Please view the microsoft knowledge base for more info, like this article:
- http://support.microsoft.com/kb/834450
Your specific error code is not in the base, but you can try searching for "stop 0X0000008E in win32k.sys".
Start by clearing CMOS using the jumper or reset button on your board. Please disconnect your pc from AC power first.
Please make sure that Service Pack 2 for Windows XP is installed on your system. If not, install it (if possible of course).
Please check your memory using Memtest86 .
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If the system still will not boot, try another video card.
hello!
i'll already tried the list you suggested, and still nothing happened, again there are no beep, no post. only the power led that lit and the fan that is spinning. reinstalling the OS seem impossible coz its not even booting... i'll test all my other hardware with another computer and they are working well...

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Hello, I'm a 15-year veteran system administrator and hardware hacker and this is the first time I have ever had what appears to be a truly DEAD mobo killed after a BIOS flash!
Of course I read all the stickies and spent 2 hours research & homework first, before posting here. I tried everything to revive this mobo.
Here's what happened:
MSI-6712 KT4AV system with onboard Audio and Ethernet, Athlon 2800+ CPU, 1GB (2 x 512MB PC2700 DDR) RAM. 300W PSU. It's been running great for years with never an issue. I just got a Athlon 3000+ CPU I wanted to upgrade, but before I did I decided I had better upgrade the BIOS to support this newer CPU, since the BIOS Version History says the later revisions handle the 3000 CPU.
I upgraded the BIOS from DOS Boot via a Bootable USB and it Verified successfully. Then I rebooted and it said something like Invalid CMOS settings, so I entered BIOS Setup to view my new BIOS. I noticed new features like Network Boot ability, so the new BIOS seemed to be a success. (Note this was a soft-reboot, not a hard power-off reboot). I set my normal settings and saved to reboot and the system was DEAD from that point on! No beeps, monitor stays black. CPU fan does run but that's it.
Here is what I have:
(This image is larger if you view it directly)
Things I have tried:
Removing all RAM and vacuuming dust, reseating 1 stick nearest the CPU. (This shouldnt be necessary since I have not removed the ram or disturbed it, but I tried anyway since D-Bracket LED indicates a Memory error.)
Trying a different brand PC2700 DDR RAM stick.
Removing CMOS battery for 10 minutes.
Jumpering Clear CMOS a dozen times. Leaving Clear CMOS jumper overnight (desperate!).
Disconnected all devices from mobo, all HDs, even the AGP video card.
Unfortunately, since the mobo fails so early, it never beeps or initializes the keyboard, so safe-mode INS or CTRL-HOME don't work... so I can't reload my old BIOS backup I carefully saved before I flashed the new one.
As you can see the BIOS chip is soldered directly to the mobo.... so am I 100% dead here? Is there anything I can do?
I am 100% positive I did this BIOS update correctly and there is no reason it should have killed the mobo!

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UPDATE: Oh boy, it looks like I may have flashed the WRONG BIOS???!?!
Too possible, that's why i ask
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I'm not sure what my old bios version was, I couldn't find any way to tell? The BIOS flash utility did not display my old version anywhere either.
Well you told that you have created BIOS backup before update the BIOS, ==> "so I can't reload my old BIOS backup I carefully saved before I flashed the new one."
Can you upload it somewhere to check it?
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I now see that I should have instead flashed BIOS v5.4 for KT4AV: http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=1&prod_no=552
I am shocked at this mistake... Can such a small discrepency (KT4V-L vs KT4AV) really kill my motherboard? I saw the KT4V-L and thought it was right because my mobo has Onboard LAN...
I'm doomed!
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Can such a small discrepency (KT4V-L vs KT4AV) really kill my motherboard?
Sure yes, will be no wonder

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We just upgraded the Cisco Call manager on IBM xSeries 345 MT-8670-M1X server with Cisco patch WIN-OS-Upgrade-K9.2000-4-2sr6.exe. After upgrade we got this error message about IBMC ServeRaid 5i controller card.
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I need some help and you will get my highest vote
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2. During the upgrade stage, why the server always ask insert disk 1. I have tried all 5 disks. But none of the work. I disconnect the mirri during the upgrade. Does it affect the upgrade?
3. Where can I get the latest device driver for 5i work with windows 2000 server?
Many thank
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Hi kevin,
Open a case wid TAC they will direct you on the right route.

Msi-6712 kt4v

Hi there everyone
Please bear with me as I am a pretty new to this whole upgrade stuff.
Ok I decided to upgrade a spare system from a 450mhz p3 to an amd based system on a MSI6712-kt4v amd2600, sounds OK so far.
Installation went OK, everything aligned OK, all cables seated OK have triple-checked, but guess what...no power to anything at all whatsoever.
Have installed a new PSU Jeantech 400w, nothing at all.
I also took off all the unneccessary PCI cards, Modem, Network, leaving on an AGP based graphics card
Yes I realise I have probably done something very dumb somewhere and possibly fried the lot, but could someone give a couple of pointers.
Many thanks and hanging my head in shame
Pilmart.

Hi pilmart,
WARNING
YOU MUST DO THIS ENTIRELY AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!
This is the order when checking a faulty board
Conditions
1) Mobo on bench protected underneath by cardboard [ not conductive foam ]
2) Install Processor and fan and install memory
3) Connect PSU
4) Identify "Power On" pins on the front board connections to Mobo
[ This will be situtated near the front along with HDD LED, Reset Speaker etc ]
5) Apply power to PSU and momentarily short out the "Power On" pins with a small insulated screw driver [ This is similar to pressing the start button on the front of your PC ]
CARE MUST BE TAKEN AS SHORTING OUT THE WRONG PINS WILL PROBABLY DAMAGE THE MOBO
If all is well, then the fan on the PSU will work and so should the fan on the processor. This will indicate at the very least that the Mobo, Proc and memory maybe OK but not proven.
If you still have no result [ i.e no power to the fans ]
Then check
BEWARE OF STATIC ELECTRICIY - DISCHARGE YOURSELF FIRST
1) Check the position of the Clear CMOS pins on the Mobo, these pins by default should be open, but temporaily shorting out these pins will clear the CMOS. If you leave them shorted permanently then the PC will not start.
2) Check the memory by subsitutuion
3) Check the processor by subsitution
4) Check the PSU by subsituition
5) Check CMOS IC is firmly seated [ Not so common today due to SMD ]
Apart from the fact that some one has already suggested the 4 pin 12volt supply to the AMD CPU [ I don't think that you PC has one ] and all the other items have proved to be working by subsitution then it looks like the Mobo is at fault.
If the fans do start, then...
Switch off, and install the graphics card and connect a monitor
Switch on and restart the Mobo as before and check what is happening on the screen.
1) No picture - check graphics card on PC
Please Note: If you Mobo has "On Board" graphics place the header on first and try. If still no picture you can alway fit a PCI graphic card just tp prove the point.
If you have fans running but no picture on the monitor then it is advisable to fit the speaker to the Mobo.
Borrow the speaker from your PC case.
With the conditions as below
BEWARE OF STATIC ELECTRICIY - DISCHARGE YOURSELF FIRST
1) PSU
2) Processor & fan
3) Memory
4) Graphics card and monitor or "On board" graphics
5) Speaker connected
Power up and listen if you are lucky you may hear a series of beeps.
These beeps indcate that the BIOS is in the process of performing the POST
If an error occurs during the POST the beeps will give a clue as to where the problem lies
The number of beeps will determine the area of the fault.
No beeps - No picture - but everything else proven to be OK then the Mobo is probably at fault.
Physical check:
When I buy a new board I always check it on the bench first.
If you have installed it before trying it then there is the possibilty that you may cause damage to the print.
The areas to check for damage are underneath the support lugs used to secure the Mobo to the Mobo tray [ inside the PC case ]
Print around the the fan securing clip. I known people damaging the fine print around the fan clip by being rough with a screwdriver when trying to secure the clip.
If you have a picture....
If the picture i.e Boot Screen appears then you can start adding things like mouse keyboard HDD etc until you have a complete PC but laid out on the bench.
WARNING:
Unless you are confident when working with a PSU Mobo etc outside the case, then I do not encourage you to do so.
You must be careful and tidy.
You must have the power switch close at hand
You must take care to discharge yourself from static electricity before handling processors and memory and mobo
You must proceed each step and note the result.
WARNING
YOU MUST DO THIS ENTIRELY AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!
I WILL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE RESULTING EITHER PERSONAL OR TO EQUIPMENT BY YOUR EFFORTS TO FOLLOW THIS ADVICE
You can if you wish do this inside the case, and leave the power on pins connected to the front switch if you feel better by doing so
Hope this helps
Kind Regards

MSI 6712 (KT4V) Problem AMD Ath Barton 2500+

Hi guys , im wondering if u can help me
ive got a AMD Barton 2500+ running @ 1498 instead of 18XX , ive tried the following,
Setting Vcore standard to 1.65
FSB 166 , System does not boot
FSB 133 , System thinks its a AMD 1900+
FSB 150 , System does not boot
FSB 100 , System thinks its AMD 1100
so now im running 1498mhz instead of 18XX mhz
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My GFX = Chaintech Gf4 64mb AGP 4X
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Any ideas setting it to 18XX ??
ive tried all the ratios 11 , 10 , 4 , 12.5 , 11.5 , 13.0 14 , 15 nothing seems to work
even setted the memory to 200mhz , that didn't work ...
Any ideas?

Well Mate - If the temperature in safe mode at the lower CPU Speed is that high then it means at the proper speed the temperature would be high enough to prevent the system from booting.
And according to what you wrote about the white paste I suspect that your installation of the heatsink is the cause of the problem - which brings us back to the point - have you tried re-installing the heatsink with a thermal pad - not the silicon paste as per AMD instructions?
Anf if after following AMD's installation instructions to the letter you still have the problem you may have a faulty CPU - but unfortunately you will find that you have voided your warranty if you have used any paste instead / as well as the original Thermal pad.

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I have the latest model card Msi 7900gtx that has that monkey game and hdcp *or whatever extra feature that was*
before latest driver no problem
now installed latest driver no problem.
but when i stated up Battlefield 2 the game started then crashed to desktop. THEN *for the second time* it showed this pink line the left of my monitor. It went straight from top to bottom and it would not go away.
The first time this happend was 2 months ago, after that my graphics card started to sparkle *like fireworks sparklers* then shut down my pc*.
Anyone know what might be the problem?
I uninstalled the game and the driver at the same time restarted computer and it is gone. strange aye but would like to know as i aint gonna loose another graphics card lol and wait another 2 months for replacement *send to supplier, they do rma send to taiwan from new zealand so on so on*
thanks
update: the new driver was date march this year, I rolled back february driver and no more pink line on side screen. Installed BF2 again works fine.
has anyone had any kind of probs like this with this march driver?
haven't OC'ed anything either

If the problem went away after using different drivers, common logic suggests to me that that driver release was somehow incompatable. That sort of thing happens.
Stick with what works and/or try a newer release. Sometimes you have to sample a few drivers to get the best results.
Did you check the event viewer after the shutdown?
When you say "shutdown" can you be more specific of the event? Did it just shutdown with no intervention by you? Like a power cut?
Or was it a restart or blue screen?
Do you have the setting: Control Panel > System----"Advanced Tab" > Startup and Recovery > Settings..Look under "System Failure" for the selection "Automatically Restart" if that box is checked, you will not be presented with Blue Screen information. Uncheck that box so the system does not restart and will present a Blue Screen with pertinent information..

MSI-6712 BIOS update issues

I have a PC, running XP Pro SP3, which was built for me nigh on 9 years ago.
Motherboard: MSI-6712 (KT4V-L) Version 1.0 (North Bridge KT400A Rev 80, South Bridge VT8235 Rev 00)
CPU: AMD XP2800+ CPU (Socket A 462, 3000 MHz)
Memory: 1.0GB DDR
GPU: nVidia GeForce FX-5200 (128 MB)
About 4 years back I considered updating the BIOS, but the MS LiveUpdate utility (v 3.5 I think it was) no longer worked (wrong URL). Tried updating it, but the update (can’t remember the version) shut down my system whenever I tried to use it. So I rolled back and left it.
Recently, a program I was evaluating (running on .Net 4 Client Profile) caused my PC to freeze up and after uninstalling I discovered all manner of problems with USB peripherals (recognition and auto-play issues).
Tried to restore a backup (Retrospect Express HD) from a Maxtor One Touch III external drive but it wasn’t having it, presumably because of the drive recognition issues, and a straight System Restore wouldn’t complete (because XP would freeze at log off).
I feared there had been hardware damage, but decided to try a clean re-install of XP Pro. The person who built the PC had left a folder of system set up files (VIA chipset 4in1, LAN, RealTek AC97, nVidia drivers, utilities etc) on the hard drive (which I backed up) but when it came to installing XP, I couldn’t figure out which chipset drivers to install, as there were multiple versions (presumably for his purposes). So I let XP install the default windows drivers and then replaced them with the latest VIA 4in1 set for the KT4V-L from the MSI download page (can’t post link) – driver version 5.11a, release 20.4.2007
Seemed to go well, but it was suggested to me that it might be a good time to update the BIOS. So I installed MSI Live Update 5 and ran a scan. Strange thing is that an automatic scan (which pulls up just the nVidia driver and utilities) reports that none are installed and a manual scan reports that the BIOS, Drivers and Utilities are the latest version and no there is need to update. How can that be? I’ve never updated the BIOS and the only other utility I re-installed is PC Alert 5.
Yet when I run a SIW (System Information for Windows) scan and it reports the following:
BIOS Properties
BIOS Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
Serial Number 00000000
BIOS Version Version 07.00T
Firmware Version 101.114
BIOS Date 04/02/01
BIOS Size 256 KB
BIOS Starting Segment F000h
DMI Version 2.3
Characteristics
supports ISA Yes
supports MCA No
supports EISA No
supports PCI Yes
supports PC Card (PCMCIA) No
supports Plug-and-Play Yes
supports APM Yes
upgradeable (Flash) BIOS Yes
allows BIOS shadowing Yes
supports VL-VESA No
ESCD support is available Yes
supports booting from CD-ROM Yes
supports selectable boot Yes
BIOS ROM is socketed Yes
supports booting from PC Card (PCMCIA) No
supports Enhanced Disk Drive specification Yes
supports INT 13 for Japanese NEC 9800 1.2M floppy (3.5-inch, 1024-byte sectors, 360rpm) No
supports INT 13 for Japanese Toshiba 1.2M floppy (3.5-inch, 360rpm) No
supports INT 13 5.25-inch/360K floppy services Yes
supports INT 13 5.25-inch/1.2M floppy services Yes
supports INT 13 3.5-inch/720K floppy services Yes
supports INT 13 3.5-inch/2.88M floppy services Yes
supports INT 05 print-screen Yes
supports INT 09 and 8042 keyboard services Yes
supports INT 14 serial services No
supports INT 17 printer servicesYes
supports INT 10 CGA/Mono video services Yes
NEC PC-98 No
supports ACPI Yes
supports legacy USB Yes
supports AGP Yes
supports booting from I2O device No
supports booting from LS-120 Yes
supports booting from ATAPI ZIP drive Yes
supports booting from IEEE 1394 deviceNo
Smart Battery supported No
BIOS Boot Specification supported Yes
Function key-initiated Network Service boot supported No
Enable Targeted Content Distribution No
How is it that Live Update 5 doesn’t pick this up?
So, apologies for the convoluted post (thought it best to explain the events leading to this), but what to do?
1.   Do I need to update the BIOS, given that it has never been done and I now have the latest VIA 4in1 drivers installed?
2.   Why is Live Update 5 not reporting the status correctly and is there anything I can do to correct this.
3.   Otherwise, if a BIOS update, is warranted, should I go ahead and download directly from the Global MSI webpage and then which version? (can’t post link). I note from the version descriptions that it was v1.7 (26/12/2002) that added support for AMD XP 2800. Strange then that the guy who put together my PC, would not have updated the BIOS from v1.0 to 1.7 at that time!!
4.   Should I also update the nVidia driver, and if so, when? Before or after a BIOS update or is that irrelevant?
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 (Microsoft Corporation)
Code Name NV34
Video Processor GeForce FX 5200
Technology 0.15 0m
Adapter DAC Type Integrated RAMDAC
PCI ID 0x10DE / 0x0322 (nVidia Corporation / GeForce FX 5200 [NV34.3])
PCI sub ID 0x1462 / 0x9360 (Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. / MS-8936 (FX5200-T128))
Memory128 MBytes
BIOS String Version 4.34.20.22.00
BIOS Date 08/01/03
PnP Device Id PCI\VEN_10DEDEV_0322SUBSYS_93601462REV_A1\41FEB96E400008
Video Mode Description 1440 x 900 x 4294967296 colors
Driver Version 6.14.10.5673
Driver Date 2004-08-03 22:29:56
DirectX DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Driver Name nv4_disp.dll
Driver Description NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 (Microsoft Corporation)
Edit: Actually, looking at the original SIW scan report I see that there are some errors relating to DirectX. Not sure if I need to update DirectX (surely MS Update does that automatically) and/or the nVidia driver.
5.   One other thing that concerns me is that the SIW scan reports that the BIOS is reporting wrong values for the DDR memory. What’s that about?
Memory Summary Reported by BIOS
Warning! Wrong values reported by BIOS
Maximum Capacity 3072 MBytes
Maximum Memory Module Size 1024 MBytes
Memory Slots [unknown]
Error Correction
Memory Timings 3-3-3-8 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Device Locator Slot 1
Manufacturer Silicon Technology
Capacity 512 MBytes
Memory Type DDR (PC3200)
Speed 200 MHz
Supported Frequencies 166.7 MHz, 200.0 MHz
Memory Timings 2-3-3-7-0 at 166.7 MHz, at 2.5 volts (CL-RCD-RP-RAS-RC)
Memory Timings 2-3-3-8-0 at 200.0 MHz, at 2.5 volts (CL-RCD-RP-RAS-RC)
Data Width 64 bits
EPP SPD Support No
XMP SPD Support No
Device Locator Slot 2
Manufacturer Silicon Technology
Capacity 512 MBytes
Memory Type DDR (PC3200)
Speed 200 MHz
Supported Frequencies 166.7 MHz, 200.0 MHz
Memory Timings 2-3-3-7-0 at 166.7 MHz, at 2.5 volts (CL-RCD-RP-RAS-RC)
Memory Timings 2-3-3-8-0 at 200.0 MHz, at 2.5 volts (CL-RCD-RP-RAS-RC)
Data Width 64 bits
EPP SPD Support No
XMP SPD Support No
Hope someone can advise me on this.
Cheers.

Sorry for cross-posting to another forum, but this has got me in a twizzle
http://www.windowsbbs.com/pc-hardware/89688-need-ram-recommendations-msi-kt4v-l-2.html#post493343
According to the poster (Post #30), the KT4V-L can support 3gB DDR400.
I looked at the MB in my PC and it is in fact stamped MS-6712 KT4AV v10A (assumed 1.0A ). Both CPU-Z and SIW report it as a MS-6712 v1.0 (BIOS 07.00T 04/02/01, Firmware 101.114)
According to the MSI product webpage, the only difference between the KT4AV and KT4AV_L is that the latter includes an (optional) on-board 10/100 LAN.
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/KT4AV.html#/?div=Detail
The ethernet port on my PC is (as described in Device Manager) is a Via Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter, whereas in the listed MSI specifications, the optional 10/100 LAN is stated to be a VIA VT6103 LAN controller. So possibly then I was mistaken in assuming that my MB is a KT4AV-L.
Even so, if the statement about the KT4AV-L supporting 3gB DDR400 is true, surely this also applies to the KT4AV ?
Looking at the available BIOS updates on the MSI page, I can see no mention of an upgrade in DDR400 capacity:
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/KT4AV.html#/?div=BIOS
Edit: Ah, the guy in the post specifically refers to a KT4V-L v1.1 not KT4AV-L and I see that it is different product:
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/KT4V---KT4V-L--v1-0-.html#/?div=Detail
What's confusing is that they all designated as MS-6712. So if anyone, like me, does a look up under MS-6712 they could pull up either version, and since the KT4AV/L and KT4V/L have different BIOS update series, I can see how someone could easily flash the wrong BIOS.
That aside, the memory specifications for the KT4V/L are essentially the same as those in the User Guide that came with my KT4AV:
Supports up to 3GB PC1600/2100/2700/3200* DDR SDRAMs
*See Glossary for recommended DDR400 modules - with the largest listed module capacity being 2 x 512MB
So where does this "up to 3GB DDR400 capacity" notion come from. I'd really want to believe it. And if the guy in the PC shop is to be believed, I'd settle for just 2GB.
Edit 2: Oh, boy, so there is a separate product listing for the KT4V-L v1.1:
http://us.msi.com/product/mb/KT4V-L--v1-1-.html#/?div=Detail
Yet, the memory specifications appear to be the same as those for the other MS-6712 versions and BIOS updates are the same as those for the KT4AV-L (very confusing). In fact the downloadable User Guide is the same - 'KT4AV MS-6712 (v1.X) ATX Motherboard'.
Am I missing something here?

KT4V-L Bios Help Needed {Please} ******

First i need help flashing my bios i have 1.8 now
and want 1.9. I am useing xp pro fully updated on an ntsf file format i have no floppy . I have read several places how to do this but all are a little different so i decided to ask the real pro you guys.
would some one give me a full very detailed description on how i can do this preferbally soemone who has run into the same situation i have any help would be much appreciated.
Is there a way to flash using cd-rom ???
MSI KT4V-L {6712}
AMD 3000+ {333}
Corsair XMS3200 512MB 2-3-3-7-T1 184 DIm Black XMS ProSeries {400}
PNY 5900 FX Ultra DDR
Creative Audigy 2 ZS Pro
Sony CD-RW
Sony DVD 16X
Sony DVD-+RW-+
Creative Labs MegaWorks THX 6.1 600 watts
Antec Lanboy
Antec 450 PSU
Thermaltake 3 speed intake
Thermaltake 3 speed exhaust

Yes, that was the recipe given to me in this forum.- Only I considered too risky to try, and reinstalled Floppy Disk. 8)

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