Need Powerbook G4 and Logic 7.1 Optimization advice

Hello Logic/Mac Users,
I need optimization advice for my portable logic setup.
I've got a PB G4 with a gig of ram, a Firewire 410, and some soft synths.
My goals are basically to come up with a few tracks of ideas, nothing too grand.
I basically want to use one track for Ultrabeat,
another two for a couple of soft synths like the G-Force stuff.
and Finally to plug in some bass guitar stuff via a Bass Pod Xt into the firewire device.
any tips on how to get the most out of this existing setup would be very appreciated.
I'm reading the manuals and playing with the tutorial tunes but any tips to expedite would be cool also.
Also any suggestions on how to max out performance on the powerbook would be great.
Regards
Adrian
1.5 ghz, 1 gig ram Mac OS X (10.3.9)
1.5 ghz, 1 gig ram Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Hi Stereovibe,
Your powerbook G4 could record some audio tracks but don't count on
adding plug-ins and instruments on top. A G4 processor is simply too slow
to process and run Logic Pro 8 smoothly. Don't put too much money upgrading since
you will not see a major speed bump doing so. I would keep my money and put towards
a Macbook Pro dual core, used or new.
My 2 cents,
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