Need suggestions on making sub-clips

Okay, so here's the situation:
I did an interview for a documentary I'm making, and want to split up the large file into sub-clips for individual topics. However, when I was reviewing it, I noticed that somehow the sound/visuals had been desynched in capturing. It would be very inconvenient for me to have to recapture at this time, so I found a work around by making a new sequence, putting in the desynched file, and trimming some of the video off to sync it up. However, now I can't make sub-clips, I can only use the blade tool on the large sequence. Can anybody think of a workaround?

Okay thanks that might be helpful but I actually figured it out. I just exported the synched sequence to a Quicktime movie and then re-imported it. It's a little cumbersome and has to be rendered all the time, but it works.

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Making sub-clips in a multicam sequence

Hi,
I used two cameras conducting while conducting an interview, and I'd like to be able to make sub-clips of the parts I want to use of my multicam sequence. Is that possible?
Warm regards,
Bob Fischer

I have a similar issue. I have a two camera shoot that I have synched up. I haven't done the multicam edit yet.
It is of a museum exhibit opening gala. So, there is a linear timeline of singers, speakers, singers, speakers.
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< Clip Two --singers -- singers -- speaker -- speaker -- speaker -- singers -- singers -->
What I need to do is to take the footage - 35 Minutes - and trim it down to 3 minutes. What I need to do is show singers doing one song (multicam) then fade out the audio, bring up b-roll footage and audio, bring back in singers, fade out singers and bring in speakers (singers as backround audio while speaker speaks) and - this important - speakers are part of the two clips that make up the entire multicam sequence.
So, I could multicam everything first and then use that footage as my basis for cutting, adding b-roll and cutting entire speeches, songs, etc.
Or, I could set markers in the original multiclip synched sequence marking the beginnings of each "event" I could use the razor tool and start hacking it up and sliding it around. Then resynch all cut clips from the two sequences and multicam from there.
Is this clear at all?
Thanks.

Problems with footage after making Sub clips

Hey there
Today I woke up to view all the subclips I had made out of my most recent project. Only today, all the footage looked more pixelated and blurry.
What might of happened? When I pause the footage the quality is exactly as it was before. But when played it's more pixelated.
Some of the footage was shot at a lower resolution, but when I set the size of the screen to the appropriate resolution the quality still looks bad.
Could this have anything to do with making subclips? Even going back and seeing the clips that the sub clips came from: the footage is still more "pixely"
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Update to FCP 7.0.3...run the software updater. That solves a lot of NX5 issues.
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1. Don't cut the subclips too tight. Make them include all the media for each shot, and then edit the pieces of the subclips you want into the timeline.
2. Do not recapture in iMovie as it captures in the wrong format.
1. Yes.
2. Yes. Maybe if you can get a separate monitor if your computer supports that and use that to hold your browser.
3. No, but you could make 10-15 minutes sequences and put them together in FCE, which may be easier to work with than a one hour timeline.
4. No.

Need suggestion on making career decision

Dear Friends,
Problem Background : Want to make the most of my previous SAP Technical Experience and work in a marketing role.
Experience/Qualification:
Bachelor of Technology (Computer Science)
4.5 years of experience in SAP ABAP HCM
MBA in Marketing Management (Just Completed)
Problem : Not sure whether this combination(SAP+Marketing) make sense? If it does, what kind of role should I be looking for and in which firms?
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Thanks,
Kunal.
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Hi Kunal,
If you want to continue with the SAP ABAP HCM experience and wants to be in technical field itself, then your
MBA specialization as such doesn't help you, but of course it gives you an edge compared to others.
If you are very good at HCM domain, probably you can move on to the functional side of HCM.
If you are very good at marketing, you can probably get in to the SAP Presales team where you can make use
of your technical expertise very well.
Regards,
Leon

Make sub clip from a sequence?

I am a recent convert from FCP and am used to placing multiple clips on a sequence and making sub clips from the sequence. I shoot a lot of 20 -30 minute interviews and this sub clipping from the time line in FCP was my workflow to select the best sound bites.
What am I missing?
It appears you can only make sub clips from the source window?
Help
Thank you

Thank you, that is so easy - now that you showed me.
Yes as I have several clips from each segment of interviews (especially if they take breaks, or I to need shut off the camera) then I scurb through them all, by subject, which may cross over multiple clips to make sub clips and rate them based on a star system to do final assembly in a new sequence. If do this in the source monitor I would have to load dozens and dozens of clips, one at a time to preview.
Can you suggest a better workflow?
Maybe with Prelude? I have not even opened this app yet

Audio "sub-clips" won't play in source monitor, but will play when cut into a sequence.

I'm cutting an "audio only" project in Premiere and I came across a strange problem while making sub-clips. The first 6 sub clips made from the same master audio clip were normal, but then something changed, and the rest of them won't play any sound while in the "Source" window, even though while in the window the sub-clip displays a waveform.
Once edited into a sequence they play normally, but not being able to listen to the sub clips in the source monitor is annoying, and louses up my whole editing routine for this kind of project.
Any ideas as to why this is happening, or what I might do to fix it?

Number of issues here:
1. Your system does not meet minimum requirements.
2. Your CPU, disks, memory are not enough for anything other than DV.
3. What video camera was used with what codec on what OS with which version of PR. etc.
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Making music clip - the strong and weak beat marking needed

Hi everyone. I'm making video clip for music with fast visuals changing. I need to cut some pieces from source and make it EXACT length equals to distance between strong beats. It's quite hard to calculate length using secs + frames count. Maybe we have some helper for workspace that can mark it periodical to match beat timespots? Or some fix length blank that I can create quickly any time and match lengthes?

Create a section of Transparent Video. Dial in the duration and use it as a reference.
Why not dial in the duration to the clips from an In point. eg + 1:05 ( eg.1 sec 5 frames) to establish the out point.

Breaking a long clip into 'sub-clips'

So, I have a long clip that I've imported from, say a single long shot at an event. I want to break that clip up into what used to be subclips. I want to be able to treat those subclips as if they were clips - I want to be able to give them names, organize them in folders and I want to be able to drag them onto the timeline.
My question is, how does Apple think we should be doing this? The way that I see recommended around the web is:
Select your 'master' clip.
Set In and Out points.
Bring up the keyword editor.
Enter a new keyword for that 'subclip'
Doing this allows you to organize each 'subclip' by the keyword that's assigned to it and, by 'expanding' the master clip in the clip window, you can see the subclips/keywords in that master clip and you can drag them onto the timeline.
There are big issues with this, however.
There is no easy way to organize these subclips. Lets say I make 40 subclips (keywords) from a master clip. I then organize them into folders, 20 per folder, according to how I want them grouped. When I select a folder, I see a list of 20 clips - all named the same ... they are all named after the master clip! I have no way of telling which clip is which without individully exanding each clip! I could go back to the actual master clip by looking at it under the Event and exanding the master clip to see the list of all the 'keywords' - but then I have no way of orgainizing them - they're all just under that master clip.
What I want is not a 'keyword' - which is essentially a reusable identifier, used in this work-around as a single-use identfier - but a way of making parts of a master clip funtionally equivalent to the original master clip. Just because I shot some things in one take - especially with event videography - that doesn't mean I want them grouped together for editing. As far as I can see, there is no way to dissociate these subclips from the original master clip for the purposes of working with them.
This is basic functionality ... so am I missing something? What is the non-workaround way of doing this?
Here is another explanation of the issue by a kindly blogger:
http://fcpxquirks.tumblr.com/post/7122539715/so-far-the-biggest-workflow-problem -in-final-cut-10-0
Thank you!
A

Well, the difference is you can't do anything, like drag to the timeline or scrub, with the names in the library pane, only in the clips pane.
But you're right, that does suggest an improvement over using the folder to reveal the (sub)clips in the clip pane. I could drag the library pane as wide as possible so I can see as much of the 'subclip names'/'keyword collection names' as possible. Then expand the folder I want in the library pane, revealing those names. Then I click on the subclip/keyword I want, which reveals the (sub)clip in the clips pane. I can then drag it to the timeline or scrub it etc there. That's probably also an improvement over expanding the master clip in the clips pane, though still a right hacky pain.
I really don't think that being able to create subclips is an either/or with keywords. They fullfill different needs. Keywords do what they do well, but we still need the ability to create subclips, both from a logical workflow point of view and from a practical point of view, given how inconvenient this hack with keywords is. It should be 5 step process ...
1. You shoot your video, stopping and starting how it suits you at the during the shoot.
2. You import the video.
3. You break it up into clips for editing convenience.
4. You label and group and fine tune those clips with the keywording system.
5. You edit.
The ability to non-hackily do Step 3 is missing in Final Cut Pro X, it seems.

Managing multiple sub clips

I have just migrated from Final Cut Studio to Final Cut Pro X. I am trying to get my head around the workflow of managing clips and sub-clips. I am working on an interview, so I have a master shot which was recorded to tape and lasts an hour or so and is a single clip. I am having problems with the following:
a) I have an audio recording from a portable digital recorder which I need to synchronise to the master clip (it has a poor quality audio track from the camera's microphone). I have connected the digital audio track and removed the camera audio and it is more or less in synch but I can't see how to easily move the audio track in small increments to improve the synch with the interview video. (The automatic synch option failed - the digital audio was first followed by the camera video/audio, so the whole clip was over two hours.)
Any suggestions on how to do this with accuracy?
b) I started making subclips from the master track using keywords but I really want to give a sensible name to each of the subclips and then group them. I see that I can add additional ranges with Command Shift "i" - but if I forget and press just "i", I lose all the marked up ranges! I still have the subclips so I can add them one by one, but this seems very clumsy. Using keywords works okay - but I can't order them unless I name them alphabetically - again, its very clumsy. It seems to me that the developers assumed the clips would be short and probably only one in and out per clip. They must never work with a master shot from tape...
Any suggestions on a better way to do this?
Stephen
Sydney

Hi Karsten - thanks for the suggestions - I still haven't figured out how to move the audio clip by frame (rather than by dragging with the mouse) but it is more or less in-synch now.
I don't like the keywords option - I want proper name for each subclip and bins to put them in. Keywords on top of that would be great - but not instead of. That's how my mind works - a heirarchical structure provides a lot more information than the vagueness of subclips in multiple buckets - how do you know if you have included every subclip in your movie? How can you be sure you havent used the same clip twice? Also, if you delete the last keyword, the subclip vaporises! I have an hour long clip from the tape on the main camera for an interview. If i make a mistake at ANY TIME by pressing just "i" instead of Command "i" all my subclips vaporise - they still appear in the keyword collection but you cannot favourite them, and therefore you cannot name them individually. They are like phantoms!
I found a solution today after 2 hours with Apple support on the line - You can knife up the long clip, create new compound clips and give them a new name. Then you can use keywords to organise them - this is your only choice because you can't put clips in a folder. Its not ideal - if you knife in the wrong place you can't roll back the edit like you could with a subclip in the old Final Cut Pro.
I don't think the Final Cut Pro X development team use the product - there are so many problems related to assumptions they have made about the original material that it is very difficult to figure out how to use this software for a serious project. If you have lots of short clips then perhaps it makes sense - but if the keyword has to substitute for the name of the clip it becomes very unwieldy...
I recorded an interview - so every sub-clip has to tell me what the interviewee is saying. And then I want to organise the clips in a hierarchical system (I'm a computer programmer by trade). I want one copy of each clip in an order which makes sense to me. No extras! No multiple copies. Keywords is MUCH too vague...
Its not a professional's program any more. Every edit is now destructive - nothing goes to trash in 10.1.1 it just vaporises, and unless you remember to take a copy of your library before you start editing, if you delete something important you have to start again from the beginning. With a library of nearly 400Gb for this project, taking a copy is a big deal! I wonder if its the iMovie team who developed this software? If I hadn't thrown out my old software I would go back to the old version immediately.
This is a fiasco on the scale of the Apple Maps disaster... I hope they sort this out soon!

In Prelude is it possible to export my sub clips as complete files?

I work at a youth sports camp, and have a massive amount of footage to work with each week to create a highlight video. The video used is collected by multiple employees with different skill levels. Is it possible with Prelude to save just the sub clips from the ingested footage? Or do I need to save the original file that the subclip is linked to? I would like to cut out any bad footage from the weekly bin before editing begins.
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Hi –
In Prelude CS6 there isn’t any method for exporting just subclips as new media files. However, you can select your subclips and send them into Premiere Pro from Prelude using the “Send to Premiere Pro…” menu command under the FILE menu. This will package your subclips and create items in Premiere Pro’s project panel which you can then easily export into new files on disk.
Thanks for making the post and the request. We have heard this request from others as well and are looking into this workflow for Prelude.
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Dear gurus,
I need suggestion before learning new module. I did ABAP and having good experience. Now I want to update my skill please suggest me wat I should learn. I want to upgrade my skill only in technical side. Few of them suggested me BI but dont know how good it will be in US market.
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Hi Aasim,
Even the carrer growth in ABAP is very Good.
IN BW project, there is requirement of ABAPer. So if you are BW+ABAP, you will be getting paid more. Your value would be more.
Now, making a shift, even you want to change from ABAP to BW, you need to take some training. Because BW abap is a bit different thatn general ABAP.
The DW experience is not needed very much.but yes, its better to have knowledge in DW.
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Long-form workflow best practice? (sub clips)

I am struggling with the new media management and organizational challenges of FCP X.
Am I the only person in the FCP community who used sub clips? In all the extensive belly aching about the new FCP, I've yet to see anyone list the death of subclips as a dealbreaker.
This leaves me to believe that even in the pre-FCP X world people used a different (better) workflow than the one I used for over a decade.
Tom Wolsky tells me that I'm trying to force the new software to work like the old... Maybe, but I think it's reasonable to expect that an "upgrade" means that the new version of a software will have all the functionality of the software it's replacing with new capabilities added.... What we have, however, are lots of new (and admittedly) very desirable new capabilities with (infuriatingly) many of the capabilities most of us thought were crucial to our editing approaches stripped entirely. Of course there's the promise that "some" of these capabilities will return at some future, unspecified date.
Enough of my mini-rant, here's the question....
If I shoot 22 hours of raw footage and hope to mine 90 minutes for the final cut, which has approximately 45 scenes, how should I use these radical new organization features to be able to easily locate my clips?
In the old way, I'd get my Sony PMW-EX3 clips into FCP (not intuitive--another question, when will FCP accept the native SxS files?), then look at each of those master clips and cut those clips into sub clips.
Each subclip would have a unqiue name. And I would create a series of folders for the subclips. Very clean, very organized and when I need a cutaway shot of the dog barking in scene 22, I look at folder 22, open it and there it is... "Dog Barking."
The new FCP X uses Favorites or Keywords... both approaches inferior (in my opinion) to my old workflow... So what am I missing? How is the new way better? Was there a better way before that I was just missing???
And now I'm getting the whiff of an even bigger problem... I haven't encountered it myself but others are finding that once a project exceeds twelve minutes, things become terribly unstable.
Oh, well. Growing pains, I suppose. And people are correct, I can just use FCP 7... but I had such hopes... such hopes....
Dale

Yes, I know FCP X is an upgrade in name only. That's part of Apple's PR headache over this whole debacle. When people launch a program and 10.0 Final Cut Pro X stares them in the face, they are justified to expect that it's a true update (upgrade) of Final Cut Pro. And with Apple overselling the product.... oh, well, it is what it is.
Most of us would have been happy with Final Cut Pro 8, a true 64 bit upgrade of the program that was working for us.
Yes, Favorites and Keywords are similar to Subclips but they are still so tied to the Master Clip.. If I Favorite 10 clips and sort by favorites, I get the Master Clips and have to hit the triangle beside them to see the Favorites. Even if all 10 Favorites are from the same Master Clip, I get ten redundant lines I have to wade through....
The old way was better... One bin with ten uniquely named subclips. Clear and clean....
The new program does not seem informed by anyone who ever made a movie longer than five minutes... and evidently (from all reviews) it wasn't influenced by anyone who considers himself a professional editor. (I do not consider myself a professional editor, just an independent movie maker who writes, directs, acts, edits, etc., and who happily used Final Cut Pro for over a decade.)
I'm hanging around for FCP X 10.1... I've never seen Apple so mishandle a situation... On a much smaller scale, it's Apple's Vista moment....
Thanks for responding...
Dale

HDV batch capture is making new clips...

thanks for watching...
i have imported batch lists into FCP with name, media start, media end, reel and log note just as the FCP manual instructs. they import fine and i have them all in their own bins.
i batch captured a few tapes to day and i noticed that FCP is making new clips at times. for instance i'll have a clip "dogs" in the original batch list. after the batch capture there will be "dogs" and "dogs -1" the starting time code of "dogs" and the ending timecode of "dogs -1" are the original start and end of the clip. so, FCP has spit this clip in two for some reason. why is that?
i thought it might have to do with the setting "make new clip on Start/stop" thats listed in the clip settings tab of the log/capture window. so i made sure this was unclicked and then tried another batch , also making sure to uncheck "use original clip settings" in the batch window. but, the problem still persists.
i have 30 tapes to digitize and i'd prefer the clips matched the batch lists. any ideas i can try to solve this problem?
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Is it a new media drive?
how is your media drive formatted? highlight the drive on the desktop and press command(apple)+i to get info...
Where it says 'Format' it should read Mac OS Extended... does yours say FAT 32 by any chance?
FAT32 is a different format that can be read by PCs and Macs... it can only store file sizes of 2Gb, so has the knock-on effect of causing FCP to break captures into smaller chunks.
If your drive is FAT32 you need to re-format it using Disc Utility. When you do this, you will lose everything on that drive, so back it up if possible.
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Making a clipping group with a compound path

So, as of today I'm new to scripting for Illustrator, I'm using the ExtendScript Toolkit. However I'm not new to scripting my own solutions and I do have some experience with JavaScript already.
What I'm trying to do is this: For all selected Items->Duplicate selected item and make a simple clipping group with it
What I end up with visually doesn't change the picture, but gives me a lot of clipped colored areas which I then can edit in the isolated mode, allowing me far faster and better shading. Doing that by hand takes hours on some pictures, it'd take a second with a script.
The script itself already perfectly works for normal PathItems. As obvious in the title, as soon as I have to apply the same to CompundPathItems things stop working. My issue is somewhat similar to this old thread [Problem with compound path clipping], but I couldn't find a solution there because I get different behavior.
When I run the very same script that perfectly works with the normal PathItems with CompoundPathItems I get this: Error 9046: The top item in the group must be a path item to create a mask
Well that's a problem. In the GUI there is absolutely no difference between making a clipping mask with a simple path and a compound path. The reference guide has frankly not helped me with this issue at all, the only thing I learned from that is that the CompoundPathItem object doesn't have a clipping attribute, but those included PathItems do.
Here's what I have so far:
if ( selected[i].typename == "PathItem" ) {
var newGroup = doc.groupItems.add();
copy = selected[i].duplicate(newGroup,ElementPlacement.PLACEATEND);
selected[i].moveToBeginning(newGroup);
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As I said, this part perfectly does what it's supposed to do for normal Paths.
For CompoundPaths I use this workaround.
if ( selected[i].typename == "CompoundPathItem" ) {
var newGroup = doc.groupItems.add();
copy = selected[i].duplicate(newGroup,ElementPlacement.PLACEATEND);
selected[i].moveToBeginning(newGroup);
compoundItems = selected[i].pathItems;
compoundIndex = compoundItems.length;
for ( f = 0; f < compoundIndex; f++ ) {compoundItems[f].clipping=true;}
var lineList = new Array(10);
for ( l = 0; l < lineList.length; l++ ) {lineList[l] = new Array( i * 10 + 50, ((i - 5) ^ 2) * 5 +50);}
newPath = app.activeDocument.pathItems.add();
newPath.setEntirePath(lineList);
newPath.moveToBeginning(newGroup);
newGroup.clipped = true;
newPath.remove();
Mind you, this workaround does work in so far that it bypasses that annoying and wrong error, and the Compound Clipping Path also works, with the only problem being that the Compound Clipping Path created like this is still displayed in its original colors in the Layers section, and is still selectable. When I lock the Compound Clipping Path I can work with it but still...
So the question is, what am I missing here? Surely there must be a proper way to do this.

app.executeMenuCommand()? That one eluded me so far, might be just the right thing. I'll definitely take a look, now just to find a ref on that, as unfortunately the official ref documents I have don't mention that command. Any place with a list of possible commands?
Ah, also of course I'm not only doing it for the isolation mode. If you care to hear the background, here is it:
As I said it's for shading the pictures I'm working on. I've iterated and tried through a bunch of techniques. For example gradient meshes on my first few real works. Now those meshes don't do well with complex shapes, which previously I alleviated by using a simple square or rectangle gradient mesh and using the original colored shape as a clipping mask. That did work, but it was a huge lot of work.
After a bunch of attempts at that I went over to using simple gradients as a background for the shape and then I'm doing the shading freehand with the blob brush tool, using a graphic style and filters to make it look right. That's better, but properly making all the clipping masks takes me much longer than anything else.
Now the problem is that the shading is not supposed to go over the lines, which is impossible to do properly without either messing up the order, or using clipping masks, hence the script. Because you know, if you use a blob brush with a strong Gaussian blur close to the lines you'll end up with stuff on both sides. If you don't start close to the line the shading won't look right if the darkest part of the shade needs to be close to the line. And that's where clipping masks do magic.
And finally here's an example how I work with the script and the result:
After I have traced a sketch, adjusted the line widths and everything to look neat I turn the paths to outline strokes and then make them into a live paint group (which would mess up the line widths, unless you turn the paths into outline strokes first).
With that live paint group it takes me just a few minutes to flat color my piece. Then I expand the live paint group, in case of doubt spend some more minutes to make compound paths from all areas I need to shade in one piece, then I select all the areas and use my script to turn them into neat clipping masks. Then I can click any area, enter the isolation mode and go up one level so I'm in the appropriate group, where I can shade freely without the problem of going over the lines.
At the end that allows me to apply a complex and in-depth shading, without wasting any time to get there.
PS: Well, I just found out that Draw Inside is pretty darn close to what I want to do, and oddly enough it produces the same visual discrepancy with compound paths that my script produces. I'll be taking a closer look at that, though my script does a little more than just the clipping mask stuff, so maybe I'll go for a hybrid solution. Whatever makes for a better workflow.

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