Need to 30" displays on new mac pro - which video card?

Will the stock Nvidea GT120 card support a second 30" display with an adapter? Will the ATI 4870 card?
I have an older ATI 3870 card that will support two 30" monitors, but not sure if that will work with Snow Leopard.

I've read the 3870 doesn't support some new forthcoming OpenCL, nothing else. Why not just try it out. Install a fresh copy of SL on one of your drive/partitions and see.
Would a GT120 work? well, why wouldn't it? Is the GT120 a step up, or down?
Support two 30-inch DVI with this:
The *Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter* lets you connect the 30-inch Apple Cinema Display HD to a Mac with a Mini DisplayPort.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB571Z/A
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC002ZM/A
Nvidia OEM GT120 specs
http://www.nvidia.com/object/productgeforce_gt_120us.html
Apple displays? 3rd party?

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Using a 30" Cinema Display with new Mac Pro

Hello Everyone:
I just purchased, and waiting to arrive a new 2014 8 core Mac Pro which is an upgrade to my 2009 quad core Mac Pro. I currently use a 30 inch Apple Cinema display which has the DVI connection. I was thinking that I would use a DVI to HDMI adapter and plug the 30" into the HDMI port on the new Mac Pro. I have since heard that people have been having issues with this older monitor getting it to work properly with the new mac pro. some have suggested buy the $99 mini display port to DVI adapter and using that, but I don't believe there is a mini display port on the new mac pro.
I have considered buying a new thunderbolt display because I am assuming that it will have a much better image quality than the older 30 in display but I hate the fact that it's a 27" and I would be giving up the 3" in size. I do a lot of video and audio recording editing and love the extra screen real-estate. Can anyone confirm a couple of things for me?
1. Will the 30 inch display work with a new mac pro and can I use the DVI to HDMI adapter?
2. Does the new Thunderbolt display have a much better image quality than the 30 in display and because its newer, will look that much better with the mach pro?
Thank you in advance.

1. Will the 30 inch display work with a new Mac Pro?
Yes.
Can I use the DVI to HDMI adapter?
Not if you want full resolution. You need a Mini DisplayPort to dual-link DVI adapter
<http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB571Z/A/mini-displayport-to-dual-link-dvi-ada pter>
It plugs into a Thunderbolt port (and USB port) on the computer.
2. Does the new Thunderbolt display have a much better image quality than the 30 in display and because its newer, will look that much better with the Mac Pro?
No, it has more pixels (in the vertical direction), but they are spaced a bit more apart, so you don't want to be as close to the display.

In need of a new Mac Pro, which one?

In the market for a new Mac Pro, mainly for CS5 apps, an ocassional Final Cut project and some Modo rendering (simple work). My Mac is an early 2008 2.8 GHz 8 core with 10 gigs of RAM, rock solid performance and trouble free and I'm looking to buy a new one within the next week. The 4 core 2.8 appeals to me for the lower price, but inclined for the 8 core, is the $1,000 difference between 4 and 8 core woth it? The 4 core has a faster processor, so I would assume that the difference in speed is basically a non-issue for the work I do, am I right? On the other hand, I rather get the 4 core with at least 12 gigs of ram, since most apps don't take advantage of 8 cores.
Need opinions and suggestions and if someone has a link for performance comparisons test between the two, would be appreciated, can't find any.

Not everyone, but more than a few, swear by SSD making their Mac run smooth and faster all around.
You are rather low on RAM for any real strong CS5 use.
Your Mac can boot into 64-bit kernel, too. Read up on that on MPG and along with 24GB pays 15% dividends.
And you can take advantage of 5870 or 5770 as well as Quadro 4000 ($789 PNY Quadro for Mac on Amazon, versus $1195 on Apple Store). 5770 + 4000 is $1050 investment.
You 'should' be using say 3 x 2-3TB enterprise version drives. And 120-240GB SSD $600.
Intel 3.2GHz Harpertown (Penryn) 5400s are probably not cost effective and seems the highest MHz you can go.
I go with coffee can, create an account to go towards the next system. Put X-amount aside each month and only buy on cash or your business pays for itself in six months.
The real hard part comes when a new model comes out, knowing the first 3 months are often rough and best to hold off, wait, read the reviews and reports. And know that buying that while today you could 'down grade' to Snow Leopard, the next time you can't and it takes time to optimize all the drivers and software that a workstation is more likely to need.
If you have $3.5K burning a hole, then the ref'd 2.8 and optimize "the heck" out of it, with W3680 and everything else, and then sell yours later too for $1500 probably.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC560LL/A
Your 8-core 2,8 is not yet ready to retire!

IMac vs the new Mac Pro for video editing in FCPX?

Hi.
I am currently using a macbook air for all my editing and rendering of videos in FCPX. The editing process is reasonably smooth when dealing with shorter clips, but when I tried to edit multicam clips, things started to slow down. Also, the rendering and compression processes are tedious. I am planning to edit and process a much larger number of videos in the next years to come, so I have decided to do a serious upgrade of my system.
For the moment, I am torn between a maxed out iMac 27", which would be the cheapest alternative, and the 6 core Mac Pro or 4 core Mac Pro.
When I look at benchmarks of the new Mac Pro's in Geekbench, the iMac is never very far away in terms of performance. Does tests like this tell anything about how well the Mac Pro will perform in FCP? Does the hardware in the Mac Pro have features which makes it superior to the iMac, in other ways than for example the "pure power" of the CPU and GPU?
Christopher.

FCP X 10.1, Motion 5.1 Updates w/Dual GPU Support (new Mac Pros) (from Thursday)
Apple released Final Cut Pro X 10.1 Thursday with support for Dual GPUs in the new Mac Pro and more.
Long list in the Final Cut Pro X 10.1 Release Notes that also links to info on How to back up important FCP X 10.0.x files before updating. (Today's Apple docs listing also has more related to Final Cut Pro X 10.1.)
Also out today are Compressor 4.1 and Motion 5.1. Full release notes below but here's a clip from the App store Motion 5.1 changes:
Optimized playback and rendering using dual GPUs in the new Mac Pro
FxPlug 3 with custom plug-in interfaces and dual-GPU support
Faster project loading, especially for complex projects
Share directly to YouTube at 4K resolution
Spanish language localization
Dual FirePro Dxxx Rendering FCP-X
http://www.barefeats.com/tube05.html
Intel Xeon processors are designed to run 24/7 and stay cool and under load.
Mac Pro so far hold up strongly for years, easy to add and upgrade RAM and processor, and maybe, hopefully, even the twin GPUs. Thunderbolt2 for all your projects and storage as well.
6 or 8-cores is going to walk away from iMac which is breathing hard and not designed for constant heat. Haswell was designed to conserve and reduce.

Using 2005 30" Cinema display with new mac pro

I will order a new MacPro to replace my Mac Pro 1.1 immediately upon release. I also have a 30" Cinema Display version 2005. It's interface with the existing Mac Pro is three cable hookup: DVI, USB and Firewire 400. By connecting the Cinema display using a bunch of adaptors, can I make the display work with the new MacPro until a good 4K display is out there? Alternatively, I'll have to buy a new display from current technology or the few 4k's available today.
Thanks for your help.

yes, use a Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI adapter plugged into the ThunderBolt port. The HDMI port has limited resolutions, not including 1560 by 1600 best for 30" cinema display.
Graphics and Video Support
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Dual display and video mirroring: Simultaneously supports full native resolution on the built-in display and up to 2560 by 1600 pixels on up to two external displays, both at millions of colors
Thunderbolt digital video output
Native Mini DisplayPort output
DVI output using Mini DisplayPort to DVI Adapter (sold separately)
VGA output using Mini DisplayPort to VGA Adapter (sold separately)
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Support for 3840-by-2160 resolution at 30Hz
Support for 4096-by-2160 resolution at 24Hz

What displays WILL work with 1st gen Mac Pro & 4870 video card upgrade?

I've been reading these discussion threads for hours.
I, like so many others, have a 1st gen Mac Pro with a 1900XT that is taking a dump on me.
My only/best option for replacing it is the 4870...
But SO many folks with 3rd party displays have had problems, though almost no one is commenting on which 3rd party displays DO work.
Can anyone help? Do you have this configuration and a 3rd party display that IS working?
I don't want to buy this card and find out I have to shell out another ton of $$$ to buy Cinema Display.
I have an LG Flatron Wide...
Can anyone confirm a 3rd party display that DOES work? I'd be VERY grateful!

I have the Acer 24". been fine for 18 months. I know several people using them

My New Mac Pro - No Video Cord !!!

I just received my new MacPro today. There is no video cord!
So, which video cord do I need to buy? I have an Acer 23 inch monitor.
I can't believe Apple sends me a new MacPro with no video cord ... !!!

It's been awhile, but I am sure my MacPro came with a DVI to VGA adapter. Any monitor should come with a DVI or a VGA cable, so you should have no problems. Cables come with monters, not with computers.
If you are using an LCD monitor you should use the DVI interface, not VGA. Many cheap manufacturers only include the VGA cable as it is the lowest common denominator. The VGA will not get you the best image on your monitor. It is not Apple's fault that there are cheap companies out there.

Mac Pro and Video Card. Which???

Hey Guys, Im planning on buying a Mac Pro and if I was not sparing any expense to get the latest & greatest, then would buying the "NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 512MB, Stereo 3D (2 x dual-link DVI)" ensure the best high end card I can buy for my mac? Is there a big difference between that and the "ATI Radeon X1900 XT 512MB" or the "NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB" ?? Not sure which to choose. Thanks

The Quadro is the fastest card you can buy.
Between the Quadro and the X1900, there isn't much of a difference performance wise, but the Quadro is very slightly faster then the X1900 in certain tasks (gaming, in particular).
Between the X1900 and the 7300, there's no real comparison. The 7300 is a baseline card. It will do everything the X1900 does- but not as fast and your frames per second (FPS) will suffer significantly in things where that matters (gaming, again).
If you aren't tied to the Quadro and you want something with any reasonable amount of speed to go with the capabilities of the rest of the machine (Quad Xeon cores), then go with the X1900. It's cheaper, and about the same speed as the Quadro.
The 7300 is, well, going to be slow compared to the X1900/Quadro.
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Upgrading Mac Pro (Rev1) Video card to 8800GT - Win XP OK?

Hi all,
I have a Rev1 Mac Pro with the ATI X1900 graphics card. I'd like to order the Apple upgrade to the Nvidia 8800GT for better performance running games in Windows.
Currently, I have an XP SP3 Boot Camp partition. I've read some posts about problems users have had with the 8800 upgrade under XP.
Can anyone confirm that the 8800 upgrade will work under XP, or if I should switch to Vista? I'm anticipating sticking with DX9 unless that would make a difference in terms of compatibility.
Thanks for any advice!

You can use any PC card for Windows only. I know there were problems in the past with XP drivers, but don't know if that is still true today (I'd be surprised, it is after all basically G92 series card, which is very common).
Personally, I think Vista 64-bit just makes more sense with Mac Pro at this point, more RAM, dual cpu, and it isn't like you don't have the power to run or that they would run poorly on that hardware.
Might give you some ideas games on Mac Pro running Vista:
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Need to setup Bootcamp on new Mac Pro

I just got a new 8-core MacPro. I transfered all my files including all the files from my Windows partition (from iMac). Now, the files exist on the MacPro but not as a Windows partition. I have the latest Leopard, but need to know the steps for setting up for BootCamp. Any help would be appreciated.

bootcamp creates a hybrid partition scheme which is needed to have both windows and OS X on the same drive. i confess I don't know how that really works and how it does that. For that reason you must use bootcamp assistant when creating a partition for windows, using disk utility will not work. format of the bootcamp partition can be either fat 32 or NTFS. Bootcamp assistant will let you create either but the size of a fat32 formatted disk can not be bigger than 32MB.
FAT32 will be read/write from both OS X and windows.
If you need a bigger windows partition format it NTFS. You can make NTFS read+write from OS X by installing macfuse and [NTFS-3g|http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/24481/ntfs-3g].

Can I run two 2560x1440 monitors (dual link DVI) on a new Mac Pro?

I have two Monoprice Zero-G IPS monitors, which can run at resolutions of 2560x1440 using a dual-link DVI adapter. This is what I am currently using on my old 2008 Mac Pro.
If i get a new model Mac Pro, could I continue this arrangement at the max resolution by using two Thunderbolt/Minidisplay port to Dual link DVI adapters (and, I assume, using two of the USB ports as I do now)?
Frankly, I dont need the power of a new Mac Pro but my old one is long in the tooth. I'd get a retina Macbook and use it as my desktop, but I cant think of any way to run both monitors at full resolution on the Macbook Pro. I dont want to run them at HDMI resolution.
Thanks in advance!

Adapters go from $9 to $54, the latter having heat-sink which is not needed in an open cMP.
Some support both as in either or but not two at the same time, SATA interface on the PCIe afapter, or an M.2 type
While other PCIe "solutions" exist they are not OS independent or machine, the XP941 suffers from none of those concerns as it is bootable in all Mac Pro 1,1 thru 5,1, and is the only one for 200-7 models (and 2008 are iffy) so you can 'take it with you' if you move to a new cMP.
Old controller, you need two SSDs in RAID0 to get 900MB/sec writes.
Does not appear to be any of the real issues of PCIe slot and bus master, outside of you would exclude the 1x slot in the 2006 of course!
The hardest part? getting these tiny M.2 blades, which are ~ 1" x 3.25" and have a tiny screw, on the PCIe adapter.
250GB SSD today are ~$120 + many do want SATA III PCIe (to get 550MB/sec and allow continued use of 4 x SATA II drive bays) runs ~$80-299. In some cases you then need a 2nd SSD. So if you want speed (vs size) then $240 + $100 and the $300 for XP941 256GB isn't bad.
Finally, look for an Apple blade on ebay if running Yosemite - they vary, some are 2x (slow) M.2s and you want 4x but any are probably 700MB/sec and cost $400-700. No need with Apple part to worry about TRIM.
Comparing 128GB SATA II $83 + $15 adapter vs PCIe XP941 128GB $140 + $24 is a 'toss-up' in cost but not performance, and one frees up drive bay and uses PCIe slot. (Generally 250GB are faster and better, the 128GB use to have 135MB/sec writes and $40 extras for 550MB and double storage makes sense, you never want an SSD to get down to 20% free, and you want to have 11% set aside for over-provisioning).
So in a way you can get 1000MB/sec like nMP for $175-300 in any Mac Pro, and new faster blades are on the horizon offering 1400MB/sec.
Kind of amazing, that M.2 support is in that old EFI all along waiting

New mac pro, CS5 crashes, where to start?

I have a new mac pro which crashes daily while using After Effects (and photoshop). I've seen some indication that this could be a driver issue with the 2 nvidia cards that came preinstalled, or an Adobe issue. Running 10.6.4 Snow Leopard. I can recreate this sometimes by scrubbing the after effects timeline with a spotlight casting a shadow on another layer. The system locks up, left monitor flashes black and I have to hard rest. This is super frustrating, apple has twice told me it's Adobe, but I don't know. All I do know as a business owner is that I'm $13,000 invested in hardware / software that don't seem to work together and I don't have many other options as this is what i do for living. Any thoughts at all? Anyone have any ideas?
2x2.93 quad core xeon
16gb 1066 ddr3
level 5 raid with 4 1TB drives
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thanks in advance
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For sure it is really frustrating, especially when you convinced the company you work with to switch from FCP to CS5...
I have the same problem with a Mac Pro bought in April and a GTX 280... We were pretty happy with Premiere Pro, when editing a feature shot on RED 4K HD. It is the more stable release of that soft I ever seen, and I'm using it since Premiere 5.1 and the mini-DV.
But I'm disappointed by After Effect, which use to be alway stable in the previous version I used. We're working on a 3300$ computer, using a 450$ graphic card, and the two Samsung monitors keep flashing before AFX craches... That happen every 15 minutes.
The GeForce driven is updated. We have also a Geforce GT 120 in the Mac Pro, to plug a Wacom Cintiq 12WX on it... The screen of the wacom doesn't flash when it happens to the Samsungs, that's why I'm thinking of an issue involving the GTX 280. Anyway, nVidia does not provide any driver for Mac for the GT 120...
So it's probably more a graphic card issue, than a software one... But if someone has any other idea to get rid of this problem (unactivate open GL does not change the problem)... ?
Thanks in advance for who may help...

What to start with my new Mac Pro

Hello Mac people,
I just got new Mac Pro (still in the box) and need to do several things to it. Can you help me to do it in right order?
Here are the things I need to do to my new Mac Pro...
* get it out of the box and plug the power cord, of course...
* put new memory sets 4x2GB=8GB (will take out the factory 2GB too)
* add 2 hard drives (750GB each)
* put pcie card (for video output device - blackmagic)
* put pcie card for the external hard drive
* and of course, I need to transfer everything from old ppc G5 to new Mac Pro...
OK, my questions are...
1. What would be the right order to do the things I listed above?
2. If there's no right order for putting the pcie card, memory, and hard drive, can I do all of them at the same time? or should be done one by one...?
3. when would be the good time to bring the stuff from old mac? regarding things I listed above...
Please help me...
Thanks,

Run Apple Hardware Test first.
Backup / clone your hard drive before making changes.
Once cloned to new drive, and run Repair Permissions and insure it works properly, pull the original drive and keep off line for now.
Don't import G5 PPC applications, reinstall (if they have installers).
Test it works with Apple RAM before pulling.
Make changes one at a time so you know if something isn't right.
It could take awhile to really know if something needs updating, and assume your PCIe cards are Leopard + Mac Pro compatible and you have the latest drivers handy if you need to apply updates (very common with new systems and new OS like Leo).
Plug in the power cord last.
Once you know everything works, import your personal settings to your new OS.

New Mac Pro (late 2013)

Having some weird issues with my new Mac Pro which I just received 3 days ago.
To get setup I took my hard drives out of my old Mac Pro, installed them into a Promise Raid. One of the drives was my old startup drive which I had done a clean system install within the last 3 months.
I imported apps, files and settings to get my nMP ready to use quickly.
Using it I have had apps hang at times (Dreamweaver CS6, Transmit 4 to name two) forcing me to restart the computer to get things in order again. Seems to be happening more frequently the longer I use it, had to restart twice today within 8 hours.
I was going to run a disk repair but I don't have a recovery hd to boot into. If I hold command-r during start up I stay at a blank gray screen the whole time. If I hold down the option key I see a recovery HD option but when I try to startup off of it I get the circle with the line through it icon and have to restart again to do anything.
I'm really at a loss here, really didn't expect software issues with this new computer.
Any thoughts on what to look at first?
System config:
3.5 6-core
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10.9.2

No, it shouldn't. If you are having problems with third-party software, I'd suggest reinstalling them from scratch and original media.
As for disk repairs you do it this way:
Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions - Mavericks, Lion/Mountain Lion
Boot to the Recovery HD:
Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the COMMAND and R keys until the menu screen appears. Alternatively, restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager screen appears. Select the Recovery HD and click on the downward pointing arrow button.
Repair
When the recovery menu appears select Disk Utility. After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported then click on the Repair Permissions button. When the process is completed, then quit DU and return to the main menu. Select Restart from the Apple menu.

HT4413 To transfer everything from my Mac mini to a new Mac Pro do I need two displays? Once I have confirmed my mini is open while pressing T can I then disconnect my Cinema Display from the mini and connect it to the Pro to continue the transfer?

Can I set up my Mac mini to transfer its contents to a new Mac Pro and then disconnect my Cinema Display and use it connected to the Pro to complete the transfer? Do I actually need two displays to manage the transfer?

It helps have 2 monitors, so that you can monitor data XFER, just my experience. If nothing else it allows you keep am eye on what is going on.

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