Need to keep Java 5 updates with Java 6?

I have Java 6 with 3 updates. Is it necessary to keep the 5 updates I have on my computer from Java 5? They take up quite a bit of space.

Only if you want to use one. Some Java programs require that the program is run on a certain version.

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