Need to Re-install Tiger

After a whole host of issued with USB Hard drives... I am considering re-installing my tiger software to my Macbook. It seems to be unable to mount any external USB HD. I thought for sure it was just my seagate external hd... but now I have installed a new internal drive and was using the old system drive through a USB connection. The old system drive which was working fine before... seems to be unable to mount now so I can't run disk utility on it.
What all do I need to get backed up before I re-install Tiger in terms of applications. I know I need to copy the whole home folder over to a seperate disk. But do I need to back up all my applications as well. If so, how do I do this? Just copy over the whole application folder. Are there any other major folders that need to be backed before doing this process. I just want my macbook to run nicely like it did when I bought it a few years ago. It seems to run fine as long as no external drives are connected but I need these things for backup as well as to store movies and music.

I would suggest you clone your existing system for now, and then do an Archive and Install:
How to Clone Using Restore Option of Disk Utility
1. Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder.
2. Select the destination volume from the left side list.
3. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (journaled, if available) and click on the Erase button. This step can be skipped if the destination has already been freshly erased.
4. Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
5. Select the destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
6. Select the source volume from the left side list and drag it to the Source entry field.
7. Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
Destination means the backup drive.
Source means the startup drive.
How to Perform an Archive and Install
An Archive and Install will NOT erase your hard drive, but you must have sufficient free space for a second OS X installation which could be from 3-9 GBs depending upon the version of OS X and selected installation options. The free space requirement is over and above normal free space requirements which should be at least 6-10 GBs. Read all the linked references carefully before proceeding.
1. Be sure to use Disk Utility first to repair the disk before performing the Archive and Install.
Repairing the Hard Drive and Permissions
Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger.) After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported, then quit DU and return to the installer.
2. Do not proceed with an Archive and Install if DU reports errors it cannot fix. In that case use Disk Warrior and/or TechTool Pro to repair the hard drive. If neither can repair the drive, then you will have to erase the drive and reinstall from scratch.
3. Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When you reach the screen to select a destination drive click once on the destination drive then click on the Option button. Select the Archive and Install option. You have an option to preserve users and network preferences. Only select this option if you are sure you have no corrupted files in your user accounts. Otherwise leave this option unchecked. Click on the OK button and continue with the OS X Installation.
4. Upon completion of the Archive and Install you will have a Previous System Folder in the root directory. You should retain the PSF until you are sure you do not need to manually transfer any items from the PSF to your newly installed system.
5. After moving any items you want to keep from the PSF you should delete it. You can back it up if you prefer, but you must delete it from the hard drive.
6. You can now download a Combo Updater directly from Apple's download site to update your new system to the desired version as well as install any security or other updates. You can also do this using Software Update.

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I need to re-install Tiger: Will I lose my installed applications?

I somehow lost isync and I was told that I need to re-install Tiger. What I'm worried about is whether I will lose all the applications I have installed in the appz folder, such as FCP, Entourage with all the info I have in there, including projects, thousands of mails and so forth. I know I have to back-up, but last time I backed up a project and then imported it again, I lost all the categories on events, etc and I am using those categories as a database of sorts. Secondly I don't have the all the programmes I have installed on my MAC at the moment because I'm abroad. Will I lose the documents files etc?
Since I tempered with isync and lost it, the computer is acting strange, I would dare say, like a PC! It freezes (without blue screens), I can't go from one profile to another, especially if I have a programme like FCP open on one, FCP closes down on its own if I go to my other profile whilst I am on FCP and other strange things that never happened before.
Bottom line, if your uncle, who has a MAC himself asks you to set up his Nokia Communicator on your mac to isync (when isync 2.3 does not recognize his communicator), do not feel compelled to help and try playing around with the root editor if you're not definetly sure you know what you're doing! I screwed up my computer and the end of my year by being nice.
To recap-- if I re-install Tiger (10.4), will I lose my appz and their preferences and the info I have inside them? How would I back up entourage for example-- all the stuff I have in there at the moment? I am editing a documentary (I am an independent and poor documentary filmmaker) and I don't want to end up losing the sync with the render files I have-- another reason why I don't have the time to actually re-install from scratch!
Thanks for everything whoever decides to answer my plight and Happy New Year!
Steve

Hi Adrian,
I have an 800Gb external HD. Would that be the same? (ie backing up my home and applications folders onto the external rather than on his MAC?-- he asked me to sync it on his because he left his up north)
I will start off by trying to repair it using the first the OSX disk then using disk warrior (even though I have had problems with it since I upgraded to OSX 10.4).
Then if that does not solve my friggin' problem we'll wait for the gurus.
I don't know whether this is related but...
I have been closing my yearly accounts yesterday-- sad prospect for the end of the year and I had created a few years back an XLs document with various sheets that have a lot of equations and links. I also hyperlinked the original receipts scans to the individual expenses on my sheet.
Now here's what happens. End of the year arrived and I wanted to archive the 2006 workbook to another folder where I keep the yearly accounts documents. When I do that and open the workbook the hyperlinks do not work but if I put it where it was originally they work. Since all my workbooks were created from the same template they all don't work (and I can't remember for the life of me whether the problem had cropped up in the past). If I create a new document in the archiving folder and try a hyperlink it works-- if I move it to the folder where the 2006 accounts workbook was originally, it works too, but if I copy and paste even one of the formulae when the new docu is in the archiving folder or anywhere else, the hyperlink does not work any longer! I move it to the original position and voila` it works! I simply cannot understand why its doing that for me! Is there an explanation for this at all?
Sorry for the length but wanted to explain move by move what I did.
Thanks for the help and awaiting your reply (even on the external HD bit)
Happy New Year.
:Steve
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How to properly clean install: erase, partition hard drive, and install tiger then SL

Hello,
     I am a noob at this, so if responders would be kind enough to be detailed / specific with any instructions it would be most helpful! I own a dinosaur apparently (even though I don't think so): the white (not unibody) Intel macbook2,1 (late 2006) 1.83 GHz with currently 1GB of RAM, but I have 2x2GB RAM sitting next to me ready for install. However, first I would like to do a clean uninstall of my computer (running OS X 10.6.8 SL). I also would like to properly partition my hard drive while I'm at it.
     About 6 months ago I had serious crashing issues, along with kernel panics, hangs, applications randomly appearing & disappearing, system settings and options doing the same, fans running high (probably due to the low RAM available), and basically overall screwiness. So, after trying pretty much every option I could find on this community...and many others... (e.g. clean cache, clean old logs, already did a clean uninstall and install of SL, and much much more) I have reached my wits end. I would say that to date I've wasted a good solid 2 months with this.
     The clean install worked for MAYBE a month or so, but then it started acting up again with the fans (even without high pages in/out, CPU or memory usage) and excessive heat, along with the apps freezing and quitting (mind you it would be only two things open such as 1 word document and then firefox-- with flash disabeled). SOOOOOO long story short, I have purchased new RAM and I would like to try this once again, but to ensure I don't screw it up this time I would like some directions as to how to do the uninstall, partition, then reinstall. (currently to date I ensured all updates are completed---even though they are no longer released for SL, and I just did a full backup).
     Also, I need to first install Tiger (my original OS) as when I went to do a hardware test the other day this was not an option (and upon further research it is due to me not using Tiger as a first install and then using my mac box set for SL). I didn't use my original OS first because....one issue encountered when I had tried to install Tiger was that my Disc 2 (the applications one) took around 1.5 hrs to complete, but when I reached the last step of glory where I expected it to say COMPLETE it instead said that there was some sort of issue with the disc..........of course).
     Any help would be greatly appreciated.

1: If near a Apple Store or Authorized Repair, take it to then for a free evaluation, it might have other hardware problems now that it would be a waste of effort even continuing.
2: The RAM needs to be
Maximum Memory
3.0 GB (Actual) 2.0 GB (Apple)
Memory Slots
2 - 200-pin PC2-5300 (667MHz) DDR2 SO-DIMM
Basically what this means is you can put in a 2GB module and a 1GB module for 3GB total.
I wouldn't proceed with installing RAM just yet, not until you get a stable OS X version on the machine, you might have a hard drive needing to be replaced as well which you can do while inserting new RAM.
3: This User Tip can assist in installing 10.6 Snow Leopard, partition format etc.
How to erase and install Snow Leopard 10.6
Software Update fully immediately after setup.
There is no need to install Tiger, he 10.6 disk contains the full 10.6 version, you can either install the iLife from Tiger disks or use Pacifist from Charlesoft to extract them and place on your new install, then Software update to get them current.
4: If not successful then the drive also likely needs to be replaced, if so choose a 7,200 RPM SATA I w/1.5Gb/s connection.
Install/upgrade RAM or storage drive in Mac's
Repeat #3
If your getting beeping noises or "you need to restart" issues, it's likely one or more of the RAM modules is bad. Have it exchanged or swapped.
I advise good quality RAM the first time, if you buy cheap stuff it's just going back.
Don't go any further than 10.6.8 with that old machine, the performance will be terrible.

To install Tiger, some Macs need internal DVD drive, or CD version of Tiger

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Some Macs while they have Firewire, don't support Target Disk Mode, nor Firewire booting. These Macs if they came with no DVD drive, and only a CD drive or CD-RW drive (as opposed to combo or superdrive), can only install Tiger (Mac OS X 10.4) if you:
1. Install a compatible internal DVD drive from which supports http://www.patchburn.de/ or other firmware that supports Mac OS X booting.
2. Find the original retail CD version of Mac OS X 10.4 that was available for a limited time called the Media Exchange Program CD.
These Macs include the Blue and White G3 desktop (non-iMac), and the PCI PowerMac G4 described below:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58418
The iMac G3 with built-in Firewire, iBook G3 with built-in Firewire, and AGP PowerMac G4 with built-in Firewire at least support Firewire booting and Target Disk Mode which would allow them to use an external optical DVD drive that supports Mac OS X booting.
If they didn't have an internal DVD drive.
Port #4 in this image below is a Firewire port:
Notes: Macs released on or after April 26, 2005 need to install Tiger from the discs that came with them, or a newer retail release except Intel Macs. Retail release of Tiger is a black disc with a white X logo and does not say Upgrade or Update.
Intel Macs could only install Tiger from the discs that came with them.
Macs released on or after October 26, 2007 can't install Tiger.
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What happens if the firmware isn't updated?
The display may stop working, even for OS 9. It is not easy to fix.
I just installed 10.2 on one of them and it seems to be working. Should I uninstall it and upgrade the firmware and start over?
Check the "Boot ROM version" with System profiler. If the firmware is updated it will be 4.1.9
It is not necessary to remove OSX to install the updates if OS 9 is still on the hard drive. If not, and the OS 9 drivers are there, OS 9 can be installed without affecting OSX.
The update won't install if it is not needed.

Please could somebody help me I have an iMac which came with Tiger 10.4.10 installed I have lost my disks and I need to re-install after a hard drive failure. Where can I find this? I will upgrade to Snow Leopard after but I cannot go straight to SL

Please could somebody help me I have an iMac which came with Tiger 10.4.10 installed I have lost my disks and I need to re-install after a hard drive failure. Where can I find this? I will upgrade to Snow Leopard after but I cannot go straight to SL

You can go strait to SL, all you need is a retail SL DVD available from Apple for $20. The US online store has them at:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573Z/A/mac-os-x-106-snow-leopard

Re: To install Tiger, some Macs need internal DVD drive, or CD version of Tiger

I'd like to ammend this at the end and say:
Notes: Macs released on or after April 26, 2005 need to install Tiger from the discs that came with them, or a newer retail release except Intel Macs. Retail release of Tiger is a black disc with a white X logo and does not say Upgrade or Update.
Intel Macs could only install Tiger from the discs that came with them.
Macs released on or after October 26, 2007 can't install Tiger.

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Need help installing Tiger 4.6!

I have a powerbook G4 that runs OSX 2.8 currently, I'm trying to upgrade to Tiger, but whenever I restart to begin the installation, it boots up to a plain blue screen. I have more that enough space and specs, any reason why it wont boot up? Thanks

First, you must have at least 256 MBs of installed RAM to run Tiger. Second, you need a retail Tiger installation DVD. If you have a disc with a gray label then you have an OEM version intended for use on the machine with which it came. The retail Tiger DVD has a black label with a large gray "X". You will also need 6-8 GBs of free space during installation. This is in addition to maintaining a minimum of 8-10 GBs of free space for normal operation of OS X.
Be sure you repair the hard drive and permissions before attempting to upgrade your current system. You should also update all your third-party software for Tiger compatibility. This includes applications, preference panes, startupitems, login items, contextual menu items, etc. If you cannot find upgrades then remove them before installing Tiger.
I highly recommend you not upgrade 10.2.x. Instead I suggest you install Tiger using the Archive and Install option. You can select the option to preserve users and network preferences.
Repairing the Hard Drive and Permissions
Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger.) After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer. Now shutdown the computer for a couple of minutes and then restart normally.
If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior (4.0 for Tiger) and/or TechTool Pro (4.5.2 for Tiger) to repair the drive. If you don't have either of them or if neither of them can fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall OS X.
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I have an older Microtek scanner that is only supported thru 10.4. Is there anyway to install Tiger on my external HDD that will be bootable by my new iMac? If not. anybody need a reliable scanner (Tiger users only).

I have an older Microtek scanner that is only supported thru 10.4. Is there anyway to install Tiger on my external HDDthat can boot up my new iMac? If not, anybody need a good scanner (Tiger users only please).

Hi Bill,
Not possible to run Tiger on a new Mac at all.
The good news is that VueScan supports many Mikrotek scanners & is free to try...
http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/vuescan.htm#microtek
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Do i need to install tiger or can i go later version

Hello.
I bought a 2nd hand mac book (late 2006, MA700LL/A) model, the OS is currently running 10.6.8 but i'm having issues with applications not running (Itunes won't sync with iphone or downloads apps, just freezes), as it came with a lot of junk installed from the previous owner I would like to format the disk and start again from scratch.
I don't have any disks for this mac so my question is this. when this mac was made it came with tiger installed (or so it says on all of the sites i've looked), do i need to purchase the tiger DVD's or can i just jump ahead and install say Lion.
thank you.
Oraclebhoy

If you saved your Lion download as I suggested, then you can make a bootable flash drive:
Make Your Own Mountain/Lion Installer
1. After downloading Mountain/Lion you must first save the Install Mac OS X Mountain/
    Lion application. After Mountain/Lion downloads DO NOT click on the Install button.
    Go to your Applications folder and make a copy of the Mountain/Lion installer. Move
    the copy into your Downloads folder. Now you can click on the Install button. You
    must do this because the installer deletes itself automatically when it finishes
    installing.
2. Get a USB flash drive that is at least 8 GBs. Prep this flash drive as follows:
a. Open Disk Utility in your Utilities folder.
b. After DU loads select your flash drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left
      side list. Click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
c. Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from the drop down menu to one.
      Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, set the
      partition scheme to GUID then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and wait until
      the process has completed.
d. Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the drive entry) from the left side
      list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
e. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, check the
      button for Zero Data and click on OK to return to the Erase window.
f. Click on the Erase button. The format process can take up to an hour depending upon the flash
     drive size.
3. Locate the saved Mountain/Lion installer in your Downloads folder. CTRL- or RIGHT-click on the installer and select Show Package Contents from the contextual menu. Double-click on the Contents folder to open it. Double-click on the SharedSupport folder. In this folder you will see a disc image named InstallESD.dmg.
4. Plug in your freshly prepared USB flash drive. You are going to clone the content of the InstallESD.dmg disc image to the flash drive as follows:
a. Double-click on the InstallESD.dmg file to mount it on your Desktop.
b. Open Disk Utility.
c. Select the USB flash drive from the left side list.
d. Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
e. Select the USB flash drive volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
f. Drag the mounted disc icon from the Desktop into the Source entry field.
g. Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
When the clone is completed you have a fully bootable installer that you can use without having to re-download Mountain/Lion.
Note: The term Mountain/Lion used above means Lion or Mountain Lion.
As an alternative to the above (you still have to do your own download of Lion/Mountain Lion) you can try using Lion DiskMaker 2.0 that automates the process of Steps 2 through 4.

Tiger to Leopard... Need to re-install Windows Partition?

Hi everyone,
I'm running Tiger right now and I am going to buy Leopard soon. Judging from all the problems people are having. I have decided I am going to do an Erase and Install. However, I'm running Boot Camp under Tiger right now. If I do an Erase and Install, will that effect my current Boot Camp partition? Do I need to re-install Windows again or will Leopard see that its a separate partition and leave it in tack?
Thanks

Erase and install will not touch the Windows partition.

Oh no i need to install tiger server but i lost the install disks.

Oh no i need to install tiger server but i lost the install disks. I also could use Leopard server on another mac.

Yikes!... they sure want a lt for it...
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=mac+osx+tiger+server
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Need to install Tiger on to different computers

I bought a used iBook G3 with Panther and a used PowerPC G4 that I need reinstall Tiger but neither had software. What is the problem with me buying a retail Tiger and using it to install tiger on both when Apple no longer sales the software?
Is there something that prevents the installation on the second computer?
I have tried to by a Family Pack on eBay, but having won a bid, yet.

It's still licensed whether they sell it anymore or not, but a Family pack will do nicely.
See Tom's, (Texas Mac Man), great info on where/how to find/get Tiger...
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9755670&#9755670

How much hard drive space does Tiger need to be installed?

I have a small hard drive that I want to set up as a boot drive. What is the minimum disk space required to install Tiger? Thanks.

For an emergency boot drive 20GB will work, possibly even a 10GB if you omit several unused Languages & Printer drivers.
While a finished install may end up only 2.5 GB, during installation many temp & VM files are used, possibly as much as 10GB for a 2.5 GB install.
IMO, 20GB is not enough for use on anything but Emergency use.
If you're not going to install from your Optical, how are you going to do it?

Installing Tiger on Intel Mac, do I need a special install disk?

As in one that's specific to an Intel Mac as opposed to a PowerPC. Just trying to figure this all out.
Thanks for the help.

Hi there,
Yes you do, all the Tiger Install Disks for IntelMacs are Machine specific & Gray in color, add to that, if the IntelMac came with Leopard, then you cannot install Tiger on them. There never was a Retail Tiger Disk for IntelMacs, (maybe 10.4 Server, not sure on that one).

Need help installing tiger

Hello all,
I recently purchased Tiger for my Imac. I'm currently running Panther 10.3.9
When I load the installation disk, it's automatically ejected after about 30 seconds or so. My computer meets all of the requirements to install tiger and have a superdrive. I loaded various cds, which played. I also loaded some DVDs, which did not load.
I've tried various troubleshooting tactics like upgrading the firmware. I also attempted to load the disk while restarting the computer and holding down the "c" key. This did not work either. Has anyone else had a similar experience?
Any suggestions?

Hi Andrew,
I recently purchased Tiger for my Imac.
Is your Tiger DVD a grey colour or a black colour with a big X across it?
The grey ones are machine specific and will only work on the model of Mac they were originally shipped with.

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