Need to setup Bootcamp on new Mac Pro

I just got a new 8-core MacPro. I transfered all my files including all the files from my Windows partition (from iMac). Now, the files exist on the MacPro but not as a Windows partition. I have the latest Leopard, but need to know the steps for setting up for BootCamp. Any help would be appreciated.

bootcamp creates a hybrid partition scheme which is needed to have both windows and OS X on the same drive. i confess I don't know how that really works and how it does that. For that reason you must use bootcamp assistant when creating a partition for windows, using disk utility will not work. format of the bootcamp partition can be either fat 32 or NTFS. Bootcamp assistant will let you create either but the size of a fat32 formatted disk can not be bigger than 32MB.
FAT32 will be read/write from both OS X and windows.
If you need a bigger windows partition format it NTFS. You can make NTFS read+write from OS X by installing macfuse and [NTFS-3g|http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/24481/ntfs-3g].

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Bootcamp and New Mac Pro

So I had bootcamp running fine with mavericks, windows 8.1, on my nMP.
After installing Yosemite, when trying to boot into it it would crash.
So I tried reinstalling...
I've tried everything, first I just erased the partition, created a new partition (MS DOS FAT), and created a Bootcamp installer on USB from ISO.
When I get to the installer.... It won't install on any partition.
I tried removing all the windows partitions with the windows installer... everything except for EFI, OSX Primary, and Recovery... Creating a new partition from the unallocated space and formatting it.... it creates a new MSR partition, a system partition, and a windows primary... the Next button lights up... I click it... it says "Windows cannot find a partition or create one"
I even tried starting fresh completely. Saved an Image of my OSX installation, completely formatted the drive, put the image back on, so that there was only one partition, so I could let boot camp assistant create the bootcamp partition, like it likes to... same story...
I've tried everything I can think of, no matter what I do, windows "cant find a partition"
I've tried several different versions of windows 8.
8, 8.1, 8.1 Pro.... real OEM versions, a cracked version.
All the same story.
Anyone else having this problem?
Anyone with a New Mac Pro (Late 2013) able to get Bootcamp, and Yosemite on the same machine?

1. Are you trying to install via EFI boot or the traditional BC MBR method? MSR/MSD are EFI-based constructs.
2. Can you the output of the following terminal commands?
     a. diskutil list
     b. diskutil cs list
     c. sudo gpt -vv -r show /dev/disk0
     d. sudo fdisk /dev/disk0.
3. W8.1 EFI installation on the nMP should work. It is normally done using a "Free Space" partition, not a FAT partition.
4. Do you have any external storage attached to the nMP when installing Windows on the internal disk? If yes, they should be removed till the installation completes.
5. Using a USB3 flash drive will not work. You need a USB2 flash drive.

Need to 30" displays on new mac pro - which video card?

Will the stock Nvidea GT120 card support a second 30" display with an adapter? Will the ATI 4870 card?
I have an older ATI 3870 card that will support two 30" monitors, but not sure if that will work with Snow Leopard.

I've read the 3870 doesn't support some new forthcoming OpenCL, nothing else. Why not just try it out. Install a fresh copy of SL on one of your drive/partitions and see.
Would a GT120 work? well, why wouldn't it? Is the GT120 a step up, or down?
Support two 30-inch DVI with this:
The *Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter* lets you connect the 30-inch Apple Cinema Display HD to a Mac with a Mini DisplayPort.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB571Z/A
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC002ZM/A
Nvidia OEM GT120 specs
http://www.nvidia.com/object/productgeforce_gt_120us.html
Apple displays? 3rd party?

Can I run two 2560x1440 monitors (dual link DVI) on a new Mac Pro?

I have two Monoprice Zero-G IPS monitors, which can run at resolutions of 2560x1440 using a dual-link DVI adapter. This is what I am currently using on my old 2008 Mac Pro.
If i get a new model Mac Pro, could I continue this arrangement at the max resolution by using two Thunderbolt/Minidisplay port to Dual link DVI adapters (and, I assume, using two of the USB ports as I do now)?
Frankly, I dont need the power of a new Mac Pro but my old one is long in the tooth. I'd get a retina Macbook and use it as my desktop, but I cant think of any way to run both monitors at full resolution on the Macbook Pro. I dont want to run them at HDMI resolution.
Thanks in advance!

Adapters go from $9 to $54, the latter having heat-sink which is not needed in an open cMP.
Some support both as in either or but not two at the same time, SATA interface on the PCIe afapter, or an M.2 type
While other PCIe "solutions" exist they are not OS independent or machine, the XP941 suffers from none of those concerns as it is bootable in all Mac Pro 1,1 thru 5,1, and is the only one for 200-7 models (and 2008 are iffy) so you can 'take it with you' if you move to a new cMP.
Old controller, you need two SSDs in RAID0 to get 900MB/sec writes.
Does not appear to be any of the real issues of PCIe slot and bus master, outside of you would exclude the 1x slot in the 2006 of course!
The hardest part? getting these tiny M.2 blades, which are ~ 1" x 3.25" and have a tiny screw, on the PCIe adapter.
250GB SSD today are ~$120 + many do want SATA III PCIe (to get 550MB/sec and allow continued use of 4 x SATA II drive bays) runs ~$80-299. In some cases you then need a 2nd SSD. So if you want speed (vs size) then $240 + $100 and the $300 for XP941 256GB isn't bad.
Finally, look for an Apple blade on ebay if running Yosemite - they vary, some are 2x (slow) M.2s and you want 4x but any are probably 700MB/sec and cost $400-700. No need with Apple part to worry about TRIM.
Comparing 128GB SATA II $83 + $15 adapter vs PCIe XP941 128GB $140 + $24 is a 'toss-up' in cost but not performance, and one frees up drive bay and uses PCIe slot. (Generally 250GB are faster and better, the 128GB use to have 135MB/sec writes and $40 extras for 550MB and double storage makes sense, you never want an SSD to get down to 20% free, and you want to have 11% set aside for over-provisioning).
So in a way you can get 1000MB/sec like nMP for $175-300 in any Mac Pro, and new faster blades are on the horizon offering 1400MB/sec.
Kind of amazing, that M.2 support is in that old EFI all along waiting

What to start with my new Mac Pro

Hello Mac people,
I just got new Mac Pro (still in the box) and need to do several things to it. Can you help me to do it in right order?
Here are the things I need to do to my new Mac Pro...
* get it out of the box and plug the power cord, of course...
* put new memory sets 4x2GB=8GB (will take out the factory 2GB too)
* add 2 hard drives (750GB each)
* put pcie card (for video output device - blackmagic)
* put pcie card for the external hard drive
* and of course, I need to transfer everything from old ppc G5 to new Mac Pro...
OK, my questions are...
1. What would be the right order to do the things I listed above?
2. If there's no right order for putting the pcie card, memory, and hard drive, can I do all of them at the same time? or should be done one by one...?
3. when would be the good time to bring the stuff from old mac? regarding things I listed above...
Please help me...
Thanks,

Run Apple Hardware Test first.
Backup / clone your hard drive before making changes.
Once cloned to new drive, and run Repair Permissions and insure it works properly, pull the original drive and keep off line for now.
Don't import G5 PPC applications, reinstall (if they have installers).
Test it works with Apple RAM before pulling.
Make changes one at a time so you know if something isn't right.
It could take awhile to really know if something needs updating, and assume your PCIe cards are Leopard + Mac Pro compatible and you have the latest drivers handy if you need to apply updates (very common with new systems and new OS like Leo).
Plug in the power cord last.
Once you know everything works, import your personal settings to your new OS.

Bootcamp and Windows 7 and 8 on the new Mac Pro (Dec 2013)

I want to install bootcamp on my new Mac Pro (Dec 2013).
Bootcamp says it supports Windows 7 and 8, but there is a bunch of new hardware with the new Mac Pro, so I am concerned about bootcamp support for it.
Are there any issues with Windows 7 Pro install? How about Windows 8 Pro?

From what I see, only Windows 8 is supported on the new Mac Pro (Late 2013) with Bootcamp.
See Boot Camp: System requirements for Microsoft Windows operating systems
Look under Boot Camp requirements by Mac model
Mac Pro
Mac model
Windows 8, 64-bit
Windows 7, 64-bit
Windows 7, 32-bit
Windows Vista, 64-bit
Windows Vista, 32-bit
Windows XP, 32-bit
Mac Pro (Late 2013)
BCA
"BCA" indicates that Boot Camp drivers are automatically downloaded as part of the Boot Camp Assistant in OS X, for 2013 or later models of Mac computers.

In need of a new Mac Pro, which one?

In the market for a new Mac Pro, mainly for CS5 apps, an ocassional Final Cut project and some Modo rendering (simple work). My Mac is an early 2008 2.8 GHz 8 core with 10 gigs of RAM, rock solid performance and trouble free and I'm looking to buy a new one within the next week. The 4 core 2.8 appeals to me for the lower price, but inclined for the 8 core, is the $1,000 difference between 4 and 8 core woth it? The 4 core has a faster processor, so I would assume that the difference in speed is basically a non-issue for the work I do, am I right? On the other hand, I rather get the 4 core with at least 12 gigs of ram, since most apps don't take advantage of 8 cores.
Need opinions and suggestions and if someone has a link for performance comparisons test between the two, would be appreciated, can't find any.

Not everyone, but more than a few, swear by SSD making their Mac run smooth and faster all around.
You are rather low on RAM for any real strong CS5 use.
Your Mac can boot into 64-bit kernel, too. Read up on that on MPG and along with 24GB pays 15% dividends.
And you can take advantage of 5870 or 5770 as well as Quadro 4000 ($789 PNY Quadro for Mac on Amazon, versus $1195 on Apple Store). 5770 + 4000 is $1050 investment.
You 'should' be using say 3 x 2-3TB enterprise version drives. And 120-240GB SSD $600.
Intel 3.2GHz Harpertown (Penryn) 5400s are probably not cost effective and seems the highest MHz you can go.
I go with coffee can, create an account to go towards the next system. Put X-amount aside each month and only buy on cash or your business pays for itself in six months.
The real hard part comes when a new model comes out, knowing the first 3 months are often rough and best to hold off, wait, read the reviews and reports. And know that buying that while today you could 'down grade' to Snow Leopard, the next time you can't and it takes time to optimize all the drivers and software that a workstation is more likely to need.
If you have $3.5K burning a hole, then the ref'd 2.8 and optimize "the heck" out of it, with W3680 and everything else, and then sell yours later too for $1500 probably.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC560LL/A
Your 8-core 2,8 is not yet ready to retire!

I have an imac bought late 2013, can i use it as a display for the new mac pro? I also want to use windows 8 on it, would this work with parallels or bootcamp?

I have an imac bought late 2013, can i use it as a display for the new mac pro? I also want to use windows 8 on it, would this work with parallels or bootcamp?

Yes, it supports target display mode. Windows can be run with either Parallels or Boot Camp.

HT4413 To transfer everything from my Mac mini to a new Mac Pro do I need two displays? Once I have confirmed my mini is open while pressing T can I then disconnect my Cinema Display from the mini and connect it to the Pro to continue the transfer?

Can I set up my Mac mini to transfer its contents to a new Mac Pro and then disconnect my Cinema Display and use it connected to the Pro to complete the transfer? Do I actually need two displays to manage the transfer?

It helps have 2 monitors, so that you can monitor data XFER, just my experience. If nothing else it allows you keep am eye on what is going on.

I urgently need to know how I can connect 8 thunderbolt display, I was thinking with the new mac pro will come out, but I wonder if it is possible to connect an iMac to 4GB of graphics card, but suffers from the imac. thanks

I urgently need to know how I can connect 8 thunderbolt display, I was thinking with the new mac pro will come out, but I wonder if it is possible to connect an iMac to 4GB of graphics card, but suffers from the imac. thanks

I tightened all HD screws and it didn't help. With the machine running and side of the case off, I physically stopped both the video card fan and the front case fan with my finger for a couple seconds and the noise continued. I also took all hard drives out one by one and rebooted each time. Again, the noise continued until I took out the Mac HD in Bay 1, rebooted, and I had a very quiet, silent machine. The issue is the hard drive in bay 1 that shipped with the computer, it's without a doubt causing the hum/woosh sound. I still need to know if I can safely swap the Mac HD from bay 1 to bay 4 without any issues to the operating system. I would like to try that to see if it dampens the noise but I also want to make sure this swap won't screw up my machine at all.

I have an imac bought late 2013, can i use it as a display for the new mac pro running windows 8 through bootcamp?

I have an imac bought late 2013, can i use it as a display for the new mac pro running windows 8 through bootcamp?

No. Target Display mode is only supported when connected to a Mac running 10.6 or later.
It cannot be used with a PC, bootcamp, gamaing console, cable box, DVR or PowerPC Mac.
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3924

Got a new Mac Pro 2008 - need to install an Airport card

Hello all,
To ensure quickest delivery I opted for the standard config new Mac Pro 8 core (early 2008). I did the same with my G5 4 years ago an installed an Airport Extreme card (with some difficulty !). Apparently the card in my G5 is not compatible with the Mac Pro. I cannot find any official reference to installing an Airport Extreme card in a Mac Pro…just a couple of 'hacks'. Apparently Apple doesn't want users to do this anymore.
Q1/ What card do I need ?
Q2/ I see 3 antenna connections labelled 1, 2 and 3 on the cables. One is for Bluetooth apparently…but which one ?
Would very much appreciate any help.
thanks in advance
PA

kura,
I ordered my Mac Pro with standard conf for the same reasons you did. I also discovered, as you did, that the newest Mac Pro required a different airport card and that installing the card doesn't appear to be user-friendly. I since found the following web site which presented installation procedure:
http://meanderingpassage.com/2007/07/18/how-to-installing-an-airport-extreme-car d-in-an-intel-mac-pro/
I also was able to order the correct card (part number MB363Z/A) through a local Mac reseller although I see that it is available from other sources including Amazon (will ship from J&R).
I ordered the card yesterday but the dealer said that it was in stock and would take a few days to arrive so I have yet to actually install it.
Having installed airport cards on a number of other Macs I've owned, it is baffling that Apple would make this so darned difficult and awkward. In retrospect I should have ordered it as a build and had Apple install it but it is what it is.
Hope this helps -

About to purchase new Mac Pro - Need Advice

I am about to purchase a new mac pro and have some questions
I am planning to use final cut pro as well as Edius on Boot Camp.
I intend to edit footage in HDV from a sony Z1 and also from the new sony - pmw -ex3 which i will be planning to edit in HD and 24p.
1) the default config for the mac pro is dual 2.8.ghz processors, what advantage gain will i get i upgrade to 3.0 or 3.2, is the extra power worth the money? will this give me more real-time editing
How many layers of HD 1920 x 1080 from the sony pmw-ex3, will i be able to edit in FCP 6.0 without any problems? would you advise more ram
2) i prefer to work from RAID 5 drives and keep system drive separate, this is how i have worked on in PC/Windows environment. Can anyone confirm if i can have one JBOD drive for the system and 3 drives configured as a RAID 5 drive?
Will i be able to use a boot to run windows and also be able to use the RAID 5 drive on windows side?
3) Is anyone using the 3ware RAID 5 side car? what is experienece is this compatible on the windows partition from boot camp
4) How will i be able to preview HD footage?
5) Do i need to invest in a better Graphics
Thanks in advance

Hi,
Here are a few answers.
1. The Mac Pro 2.8 GHz model performs so well that it is difficult to justify paying 28% more for 7% of additional processor power in the case of the Mac Pro 3.0 GHz or 56% more for 14% additional processor power with the Mac Pro 3.2 GHz model. You might see a small 5-10% increase in performance when compressing video with the 3.2GHz model but it certainly would not be worth paying 50% more to me. In addition, Amazon has the 2.8 on sale for $2599 after an easy rebate:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000VR4F2Q/arizomacinusergr
That is a $200 savings off the retail price.
2. If you want to use boot camp I would NOT recommend the Apple RAID card. Boot camp does not work with this card which leaves you wondering why you bought the card and how to get around this HUGE limitation. Instead, I would recommend the Areca ARC-1221x, HighPoint RR 3522 or the ARC-1680x if you want a SAS card. All of these cards have new firmware available that provide awesome performance and boot capability with the Mac Pro 2008. I would also get a SeriTek/2eEN4 4-bay and 1TB Samsung HDs. This gives a solid, quiet 4-bay enclosure that can support RAID 5 with any of the cards and you can add a second enclosure later if you want to use all eight external ports with RAID 6 (for added redundancy and increased volume size). This leaves the internal bays available for Boot Camp, Mac OS X, backups or mirrors and provides RAID 5/6 capability that can be configured to perform almost twice as fast as the Apple RAID card and provide double the redundancy with RAID 6. Links with more information are found here:
http://firmtek.stores.yahoo.net/sata2een4.html
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152102
http://www.amug.org/amug-web/html/amug/reviews/articles/highpoint/3522/
http://www.amug.org/amug-web/html/amug/reviews/articles/areca/1221x/
http://www.amug.org/amug-web/html/amug/reviews/articles/areca/1680x/
3. The 3Ware RAID 5 card is not a top pick in the Macintosh market. The options outlined above will provide much better performance and RAID 6 capabilities.
4. You can view the the HD footage on the monitor.
5. You may want a better graphics card but I would try the stock card first. I was surprised how well the ATI radeon HD 2600 XT card performs with Apple applications.
Have fun!

New mac pro upgrade advice needed or keep the old clunker

I have a 2008 mac pro with only 8gb ram
I am use the computer for FCP and Logic as well
as photo editing. It is not my livelihood I am just a serious hobbiest.
My option is to go with a new Mac Pro probably 8 core with 1 TB
I would have to get an enclosure for my 4 thunderbolt internal drives.
I also have 2 firewire 800 2T external drives.
My monitor is a 30 inch cinema display
so an 8 core with 64gb plus 4k monitor and upped graphics card is $11,600 add my buisness discount i am probably
looking at around $11,000
My other option is to keep the clunker add a 1TB SSD PCIe card form owc and add 8gb ram this will
cost me $1,400. I am really only throwing away the $200 for increasing the ram as
the PCIe ssd drive can be salveged and used in the new mac pro if I bought an pcie/ thunderbolt enclosure.
Tha advantage of going this route is I could use the clunker for another year allowing time
for the kinks in the new mac pro to be ironed out as well as the advantage of faster chips in next years model.
The other issue I have is a use a Universal Audio PCI card with 4 sharc processors to run specific plugins that need that
card in logic. That card will no be compatible with the new Mac pro and the replacement cards are over $1000 that are compatibe
Just looking for some advice do you think the SSD PCI card and ram will keep me happy with the performance to hold off upgrading for
a year or shoul I just put the clumker out of its misery?

radman wrote:
Just looking for some advice do you think the SSD PCI card and ram will keep me happy with the performance to hold off upgrading for
a year or shoul I just put the clumker out of its misery?
On this page Apple compares the 2012 Mac Pro (12-core) to a 2013 Mac Pro (12-core). The new Mac Pro performs about 3x faster at rendering. You didn't say how many cores your Mac Pro has but you could expect about a 4-5x faster performance increase.
I would have some questions for you:
How much time do you spend waiting on your current Mac Pro?
How much money are you willing to spend for a 4-5x increase?
I have a 2010 Mac Pro with a 960 GB OWC Mercury Accelsior E2 PCIe SSD, program launches and computer restarts are much faster. Compressing video takes the same amount of time as it did when I booted from a hard drive. I can't read or type email any faster, iTunes plays music just as fast as it always has with a hard drive.
I would use Activity Monitor to monitor your computer's memory use while you work with FCP and Logic to see if you are maxing out your memory then adding more may be the way to go.
I use my Mac Pro for recording over-the-air TV and compressing that video into an Apple TV usable format. I've found that having a dedicated drive for capture works well. Also, when I compress the video my capture drive becomes a dedicated source drive for Compressor and I write the output file to a separate dedicated drive. This ensures I maximize data flow and keep all my cores nearly fully utilized. I tend to do the processor intensive tasks (compressing video which can take hours) at the end of the day when I know I won't be using the computer (or only doing light work on it such as email or web surfing).

New Mac Pro & Need to backup e-mails/mailboxes/etc...

Hey all...
Just got a new Mac Pro and I need to know what the sure fire way is to copy over my mail.app information from the older Mac. I know there is a FAQ on the topic but for some reason I remember trying to back-up my mail data (including emails/rss feeds/mailboxes/accounts) and really had some trouble so I'm coming to you for a "sure-fire" way to do this. I have a lot of saved emails and would hate to see them gone.
Please Advise! Thanks!!

+Why not just clone the drive and then you'll lose nothing?+
I'm going from one TB worth of data between two 500GB drives to one 320GB drive. I'm swapping out the 2nd drive as that contains all my Music/iTunes files but the main 500GB drive is staying in the older Mac G5. And besides... I want to reinstall some apps and get a clean/fresh start (no clutter) on the new Mac. My only other concern is my iTunes Playlists and library files... But I guess that is a question for another forum.
Cheers!

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