Needing to render PAL-DV in FCP????

Hi,
I had my Sony PC109 stolen and bought a Sony HC26 to replace it temporarily.
Have started to import from it though in FCP and even though both capture settings and sequence settings are DV-PAL 48 KHz, I still have to render straight, unaltered video with effects or anything.
I checked on the camera to make sure it wasn't recording in wide 9:16 mode or anything and it is in standard 4:3.
Basically, whenever I put anything in the timeline, it has a big red line above it indicating I need to render the video. (the audio is fine)
If anyone could help I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks,
Crazy

Go to the FINAL CUT PRO Menu and choose EASY SETUP. Choose the DV/PAL option.
Delete Sequence 1. Or any other sequence you have in the Browser. These will have the OLD settings...the ones in place BEFORE you chose the proper Easy Setup.
Create a new sequence. This sequence will have the new settings and should work just fine with your DV/PAL footage.
Shane

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