NEF processing in Adobe Camera Raw (ACR)

I originally posted thin in the Photoshop forum and someone pointed out to me that there was an ACR forum.
How exactly does ACR 5.4 determine color for Nikon Nef files?  Does Adobe use their own unique color profile for Nikon cameras?
I did the following tests with a D700.
I used the capture mode RAW+jpg fine.   I took photos with the camera set to srgb and then to Adobe RGB 98.  
I then processed the RAW files in ACR 5.4, once using srgb and once using Adobe 98.  When opened in Photoshop CS4, the colors in the images do no look like the colors in the jpg files from the camera.
For the image shot with the camera set to srgb, if I process the RAW nef with ACR 5.4 set to srgb and open the processed NEF in Photoshop CS4 the colors are very different from the in-camera jpg, and there appears to be no way to get the colors close to the jpg from the camera.   For the same image shot with the camera set to srgb, if I process the RAW nef with ACR 5.4 set to Adobe RGB 98 and open the processed NEF in Photoshop CS4, and then assign (assign, not convert) the processed NEF the srgb color profile, the image is very close to the jpg from the camera, which I verified by doing a difference.
For the image shot with the camera set to Adobe RGB 98, if I process the RAW NEF with ACR 5.4 set to Adobe RGB 98 and open the processed NEF in Photoshop CS4 the colors are very different from the in-camera jpg.   If I now assign the profile srgb to the processed NEF, the result is very close to the jpg image from the camera (with Adobe RGB 98!).
This is very confusing.
Any explanations.

Thanks for your replies  I do indeed want Adobe to read and USE the metadata. If so many others also want it, and if flags are set in the metadata,. it's surely not beyond the wit of a huge software house to read those settings and apply them.
I took the trouble to search through several threads and found no adequate explanation for why Adobe is disdaining the needs of its customers.
In many respects LR3 and PS12 aregreat products but they could be vastly more productive and useful to far more peolple if they improved workflow by using these settings.  At the very minimum they could refrain from ignoring the preview jpeg - if Microsoft and Mac etc are able to display and print images correctly using the nef codec I fail to see why Adobe with all its expertise in imagery can not. 
Nikon have a substaintial proportion of the DSLR ,enthusiast and professional market which are at the heart of Adobe's target audience.   Why would Adobe wish to alienate such an important group of potential customers ?
Thanks - Alaeia

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