Neo 2 Which SATA?

Im currently using SATA 1 & 2 but was just wondering if this would have any effect on my oc's seem to be hitting the ceiling at about 238fsb, just thinking about the K8N NEO (754) using 3 & 4 was better

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Originally posted by Bradmax57
Im currently using SATA 1 & 2 but was just wondering if this would have any effect on my oc's seem to be hitting the ceiling at about 238fsb, just thinking about the K8N NEO (754) using 3 & 4 was better
SATA1/SATA2 can't work at OC state
this is NF3-250 limitation,it can't separate FSB and external SATA(SATA1/SATA2) clock,if FSB OC,tha external SATA clock OC too.

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The timing explanations are all over the net. For instance, at techpowerup, there is page explaining all the timings.
http://www.techpowerup.com/printarticle.php?id=131
An excerpt from the webpage.
Quote from: http://www.techpowerup.com/printarticle.php?id=131
Introduction
Have you ever wondered what those numbers “2.5-3-3-8” or “2-2-2-5” and so on mean? Or have you seen words like “CAS” and “tRCD”? These are the timings for the memory, or the speed at which it processes certain commands. This whole settings area can be quite confusing and you have to have a certain knowledge of it, if you plan on overclocking. But some of you may just be plain curious as to what they are.
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e.g.: 2.5-3-3-8 The bold “2.5” is the CAS timing.
* tRCD Timing: RAS to CAS Delay (Row Address Strobe/Select to Column Address Strobe/Select). Is the amount of time in cycles for issuing an active command and the read/write commands.
e.g.: 2.5-3-3-8 The bold “3” is the tRCD timing.
* tRP Timing: Row Precharge Time. This is the minimum time between active commands and the read/writes of the next bank on the memory module.
e.g.: 2.5-3-3-8 The bold “3” is the tRP timing.
* tRAS Timing: Min RAS Active Time. The amount of time between a row being activated by precharge and deactivated. A row cannot be deactivated until tRAS has completed. The lower this is, the faster the performance, but if it is set too low, it can cause data corruption by deactivating the row too soon.
tRAS = tCL + tRCD + tRP (+/- 1) so that it gives everything enought time before closing the bank.
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Certain memories can take tighter (lower) timings at higher speeds. These are the more expensive memory modules out of the bunch. There are also other timings to consider in your BIOS. Not all boards will have options like these.
http://www.techpowerup.com
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K8T Neo-FIS2R SATA and Linux Question

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Originally posted by chasmon
Hi all,
I have just setup up a brand new system but am having probelms getting it working. I want to install XP on a single Maxtor 160Gb drive.
I have my HD on Promise Ser1 and all SATA stuff in BIOS enabled. When I get to the screen I press F6 and then when promted I insert the floppy with the promise drivers on. I then get this message:
"File txtsetup.oem caused an unexpected error (4096) at line 1742 in d:\xpclient\base\boot\setup\oemdisk.c"
I can't get past this screen I have tried:
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P43 Neo-F: SATA DVD writer

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848P NEO-LS SATA (Native Mode) - Cant Install WinXP

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Search the Maxtor site for common issues with your model#
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[SOLVED] Very strange P43 Neo-F + sata drive problem in vista...

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I'm currently running 245 FSB 1:1 with the 1.42b2 BIOS.
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Don't bother doing what you are thinking...
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Ok, thank you for your reply, wjli2.
I quess that solves the problem then. I can use which ever of those two drives I can get first, but will not benefit from the faster interface in drive #1.
Too bad my retailer estimated I may have to wait for about 4 weeks to get my hands on one of those . I quess others have also found those two to be good drives.
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