Neo2 865 PE & Radeon 9800 Pro

I am having problems with my current system. I just purchased new mem, mb/proc, vid and for some reason the machine doesn't post.
ATI wants to push this off to MSI since the card posts in another machine and they have gone down a few different troubleshooting methods.
HOWEVER when I put my Nvidia 4600ti back in the machine it works fine.
Here is a laundry list of things I have tried and my machine specs.
1. Unplugged all other devices from the power supply except the graphics card and floppy drive. Still no post.
2. The 9800 Pro did post in another machine at BestBuy.
3. Cleared the CMOS settings.
4. Swapped out the power supply with a new 430w Antec
5. Reseated video card a number of times.
6. Checked power connector to Video Card.
Motherboard MSI 865PE Neo2
Processor Retail Intel P4 2.4c
Mem Corsair 2x512 3500C2PT
Video Retail ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb
Power Antec Truepower 430w
HD Western Digital SE 180Gig

Well I did not have the exact same problem as you but perhaps I can help with my experience.
I have the 875p neo and I had a Geforce 4 ti4200 installed everything was working fine with performance set to fast in the bios. I bought an ATI Radeon 9500 Pro. Once installed the system would lock up within one minute of booting to windows XP. The solution for me was to set performance mode in the bios to Slow this is the only way I could get stability out of the system with the 9500 Pro.
Try the following.
Using the geforce card enter the bios. If there are any performance mode settings (that military rank thingy) at all set them to the slowest settings before switching cards to the Radeon. Try the Radeon again. If you can get it to post then you can try tweaking to higher performance settings till you hit the sweet spot for your configuration.
You might also try setting ram voltage to 1.65 and AGP voltage to 1.55 Slowly increment up on the voltages if no joy.
Post again if still no joy.
Polecat out

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    Prior to installing the upgraded video card, I never had this problem, so I am pretty sure it's the card.
    It has only happened to me when the G5 wakes from sleep. And it doesn't happen very often, either. Maybe 1 out of 20 wakes from sleep. The only way to get it back to normal is to turn off the G5 completely, disconnect the ADC connector cable from the back of the video card, and then reconnect it and reboot.
    I also have a second display connected to a Radeon 7000 via VGA and when the artificats appear, the other display is just fine. The weird thing is that I can actually take a screen shot of the artifacts, which I thought wouldn't show up. I am not sure what that means, but I think the fact that I can take a screenshot of it tells me the display is being corrupted at the system level. Right?
    Any help would be appreciated. TIA.
    Here's a screenshot:
    http://tinyurl.com/8jvtb

    Hi Bryanus,
    Did you have an ADC port on your old card? Do you still have your old card? If this is the case, you can verify that the new card is implicated by re-installing your old card and seeing whether the problem repeats itself.
    If you only have DVI on your old card, you would have to borrow an adaptor, but then you are relying on the adaptor to function properly.
    If the problem doesn't repeat itself with your old card being used, then the new card is the culprit, in which case I'd ask to have it replaced, or get a refund.
    If the problem does repeat itself with the old card, then you might want to consider other possible contributing factors such as the physical state of the monitor connection (dirty or tarnished contacts, bent pins etc.).
    If the problem repeats itself with a new (replacement) card, you could add AGP slot issues to the above paragraph.
    "Sleep" in an Apple Mac often generates issues with third party hardware, so your primary consideration that it is probably the card is (to me anyway) still the most likely.
    All the best with the diagnosis!
    Cheers!
    Karl

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