Neo2 w/Socket 939 and nForce3 - discontinued?

Hello:
I'm pretty new to this, so some of my questions might have obvious answers that I just haven't been able to find.
Currently building a machine for home use, but have not yet purchased a motherboard, though I had decided on MSI. The particular model I was thinking of was the K8N Neo2 Platinum. I have heard, though, that this model is being discontinued. Many distributors still have the K8N Neo2-F, but some seem to be out of stock.
The thing is, I need a chipset that has good Linux compatibility -- and as far as I know, the nForce4 is not yet there, but the nForce3 has stable Linux drivers. I'd also like a socket 939, but it seems like all the socket 939 boards are coming with the nForce4 chipset.
So -- does anyone know if MSI is going to continue making a Socket 939 mainboard with the nForce3 chipset?
Thanks,
Doug

Quote from: Richard on 21-September-05, 22:34:39
Doug,
The K8N Neo2 Platinum is still listed on the current list of Mobos on the MSI website and pricewatch still shows quite a few vendors still selling it.
Thanks for answering.
What you say is true. But of all the vendors selling it, the only one who has it in stock is selling it as an OEM piece "with a COMPAQ branded bios splash screen".
I'm still wondering if this board or the Neo2-F (still widely available) will continue to be made, or if MSI will continue making a socket 939/nForce3 board.
Eh...I can always bite the bullet and live with not-so-great Linux support for a while with the nForce4.
Thanks again.
Doug

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