Neo4 K8N Plat SLI - Boot Disk Failure :(

Having installed Windows XP Proffesional, I installed the graphics card drivers and was asked if I wanted to restart. I went ahead and restarted, and was confronted with the "boot disk failure..." error message.
I eventually decided to reinstall Windows but when the "press any key to boot from CD" message came up, in an act of defiance, I decided that I wouldn't press any key at all.
I was suprised to see Windows load up.
Booting without the Windows CD in the drive results in the error. With the CD in the drive it boots - what could be causing this? The mobo, the HDs, the OS?

The Samsung ... yes, that's a sad story ...
I'm one of the people who believes that two disks in a SATA Raid don't nessecarely have to be the same brand. It even haves some pro's to not use the same types of disks, but that's another topic. They should, however, be the same size of course. I used one Samsung spinpoint (120GB) and a Western Digital Caviar (120GB) in a Raid-0 array. On the Dutch forum this array is known as "RAID-UI" . It worked pretty well, no crashes, pretty fast data transfers ... but then, one day, I had a hickup using Ghost. I saw: Creating image of C: 23% complete ... And it stood there for a very long time. After that, Ghost shut down giving an I/O error. I investigated the error and becam aware that there were disk errors on C: (one partition of two on the SATA RAID-UI). I had the whole lot repaired using CHKDSK and everything seemed OK again.
I looked in the VIA Raid tool and saw a difference in size between "capacity" and "real capacity" of about 0.064MB on the Samsung. Well, nothing to cry about yet. But I kept on getting disk errors and I kept on having to run CHKDSK. After a week I lost over 25MB and every day I lost more to bad clusters. Knowing that two striped disks have to be the same size, I started to wonder when this raid would crash. But, since I don't like the idea of suddenly loosing a 220GB disk array, I decided to throw out both the Samsung and the WD. (The WD is in another PC). I bought two Seagate disks and didn't go back to Samsung, because of the terrible answer I got from Samsung Holland.
I mailed them about the broken disk and asked for a replacement (disk is about 13 months old and there's a two year waranty). They simply refused to give me a replacement. They stated that I probably messed around with the disk, cause of the bad clusters. Stupid anser, to my opinion. The disk simply died from one day to the other.
Note that this disk has always hung right behind an inlet fan! So it never got hot.
I'm very happy with the seagates now. They're more quiet and ... FASTER! I get data-transfers of about 94-96MB/s, while with the other array the max was about 88MB/s.

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MSI K8N Plat SLI Audio Problems

i just built my system and i am wondering what to do about the onboard audio. i have a old set of speakers from gateway that include a subwoofer and 2 front speakers that are digital i believe. i plug them into the yellow spdif out coaxial hole (speaker plug dosent go in all the way) and i would get a lot of crackling and distortion so i took it out, i tried all teh other onboard audio and nothing works. i checked the digital output only option and unchecked it and nothing changes. now when i plug teh speakers in nothing works no sounds nothing. anybody else have these issues? im thinking about buying a sound card what do you guys think? ithough the soundblaster was supposed to be something great whats up with this? ive read a lot of issues regarding the onboard sound but cant seem to find ananswer.
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Quote from: Arioch on 27-September-05, 01:54:12
The "distortion" as you describe it is static interference that goes through to the amplifier, due to the fact that you do not have a correct connection. If the connector does not fit, do not try to force it.
I would leave the case connectors unconnected for the moment, until you get sound through the spdif out. What type of connector is it to your speakers?
you are correct sir! i did some more research with different keywords after i posted my last post and realized that i needed a 1/8" stereo to RCA converter, so i hopped over to radio shack and purchased the little connector for 4 bucks and plugeed it in and walla. Thanks for the help though.
also to the guy with the link to the front case connections, thanks for the suggestion, i had all of my audio ports connected so that wasnt an issue, but thanks for pointing that out.

K8n plat/sli

Question about cool 'n quiet, i have done all the steps that are stated in the other post i have the k8neo 4 plat/sli with bios 3.0 <could this be my problem. the cpu speed and voltage of my e3 venice doesnt change what so ever.
Thanks
Andrew

Your CPU is a Venice one. As I know, supporting Venice and San Diego CPU needs BIOS support. You can use other supported CPU such as Winchestor etc. to flash BIOS to the latest version 3.4. Of course, please enter BIOS to Load Optimized defaults after flashing BIOS.Then change CPU to the Venice to verify.
The BIOS 3.3 and 3.4 might cause shut down issue when user set up RAID.From your deployment, you only have one SATA HDD, it seems that you have not set up RAID. There is no problem updating BIOS to 3.4.
You mentioned the HDDs are not recognized after you flash BIOS to 3.4. The following instructions below are for your reference.
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K8N Diamond Sli - DIMM Slot failure ..

i have 2x1Gb crucial ballistix tracer rams which i am am running only 1 in slot-1 (green closest to cpu) at the moment due to this problem
i think my purple slots have died..
inserting ram into both slots 1 & 2 cause beeping on start up... resetting cmos didnt help and adding voltage didnt either
i have tried moving to slots 3 & 4 with still no luck
1 stick works fine in slots 1 & 3 ...... Rams together in both 1 & 3 seem dont boot up but no beeps on inital start up
My rams have LED's so i can see if they start up properly....unfortunately [ for me ] anything with a slot 3 or 4 combination is out of the question
the Problem occurred when i added an external card reader into the usb slot..... i was thinking its a power problem but any help would be much appreciated
i am currently using 1.6 BIOS due to the fact that i am able to run 1T timing as i have tried a couple of different bios and tried to run 1T
i am thinking of a power inadequacy [ <---- lol not sure on spelling] as i have water cooling and many fans on a 500w power supply

i have an Ultra X-connect 500w modular psu
running 5x12cm fans
2x9.2cm fans
swiftech hi-flow mpc655 pump
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2xpioneer 109 dvd burner
1xfloppy drive
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MSI k8n diamond sli
all voltages are at stock
im not sure about the rails but specs are
+3.3VDC +5VDC +12VDC -12VDC -5VDC +5VSB
28A 30A 34A 0.8A 0.3A 2A .... are these the rails?
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Gskill memory with msi neo4 k8n platinum sli

have checked the stickies and couldn't see anything
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Quote from: blazing storm on 16-February-05, 01:46:02
It's still a Neo 4 board, notice the diamond version doesn't say Neo 4 either.
Thats incorrect, the "K8N Platinum SLI" and the "K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI" are different by the missing silicone image SATA controller and single vs duel gigabit nic's...
K8N Platinum SLI = 4 SATA ports and single Gb Nic (this is the low cost SLI option)
K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI is sold in America and is identical to the Diamond (has the silicone image SATA controller) for 6 SATA ports and Dual Gb Nic's but don't expect the Duel Net Card with bluetooth and wireless.
K8N Neo4 Platinum is the plain old nforce4 ultra offering.
Check the differences on msicomputer.com vs msi.com.tw and it will become clearer, its taken me 2 months to get my head around it all.

M58 Boot Disk Failure

Hello and thanks ahead of time.
I have several M58's. One of them seems to have had a failure of the mother boards SATA chips. Neither of the 2 spots are discovered during boot and I can't use the HDD or the CD. .. it just skips right past them and says no bootable device without ever accessing them.
I removed the drive and put it in an external enclosure and connected to another computer. The drive appears fine and I was able to copy files off of it and navigate the full file structure. But I really need to boot from it at least one more time to run a specific application at least one more time.
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Thanks for the response.
In the bios, under devices, I see ATA drives, then under that sata drives. There are 3 options next to that, enhanced (what it was on), disabled, and compatible. Is this what you refer to? I find nothing that specifically states AHCI.
I also found the following on a forum after some googling. Any comments regarding it?
Thanks a ton.
Originally Posted by kent1146
Here's how [to install AHCI on an existing XP install]:
1) Download the Intel Matrix Storage Manager here:
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Prod...=2101&lang=eng
2) Once you download the file, run it with a -a switch:
iata76_enu.exe -a
This will NOT install the Matrix Storage Manager. What this will do is run the installer, and ONLY EXTRACT the files to C:\Program Files\Intel\Intel Matrix Storage Manager. Again, this does NOT install anything.
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4) Go to Device Manager --> IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers. Double-click on the Intel ICH8M 3-port SATA Controller - 2828... remember, *ONLY* click on the device that ends with 2828.
5) Go to Driver tab, and choose to Update Driver.
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- Don't Search. I will choose the driver to install.
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MOVED: MSI K8N Diamond SLi boot problem

This topic has been moved to AMD64 nVidia Based board.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=96886.0

Quote from: Sealance on 14-May-06, 22:30:32
We had a unit do the same thing that you are talking about here. I found after two days of test that it was the Heatsink. It had the grease but it was not seated just right. When I redid the Heat sink the issue went away. I had to clean them both and then surface the Heatsink with 600 grt paper.
When I put it back together it worked fine.
I can't say that this is it, what is wrong with yours but it does and is doing the same things that we had going on with us.
You might check this and see. Because it would not boot no matter what we did. And it will heat up and trip out in a second.
And this is after the machine had run playing games for a week or so. I thinkt he Heat sink warped from the heat. I have never seen one do this before but I guess it could happen. Any way it fixed ours.
Do You mean the CPU heatsink, or GPU heatsink? -
By the way, who wants to guess if I was blessed or not - and if buying a new $150+ PSU really helped
Please, any more help would be great

K8n plat sli no post/ NVRAID question

so my mobo wouldnt post, and i sent it in for rma. when i get it back how can i recover my nvraid 0 raidset i created? should i be ok with just setting it up, then trying to boot to it or what? has anyone had experience with this?

I don't think that matters. It doesn't on a VIA RAID controller I have. When I switch the two drives, RAID is functioning just normal. I think the same goes for my NVRAID on the board below ...

MSI K8N PLATINIUM SLI - TROUBLE POSTING?

To start with my spec's
AMD 3500 S939 'Venice' Stock Cooler
MSI K8N PLAT SLI
BIOS V 3
PSU ANTEC Truepower 2.0 550W (has 2 X 18amp 12V rails)
1gb (2x512mb) OCZ PC 4000 VX GOLD
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The next day went out to boot up and this is where the problems started to occur.
I hit the power button the case fans spin, cpu coooler fan starts spinning, blue LED on motherboard comes on, the DLED's hang at chipset initiallization. Eventually after hitting the power up button on the case and resetting about ten times the system finally boots up, runs for hours like a dream, will reboot with no problems.
Next day cold boot same problem.
I pulled everything apart, pulled out the cmos Batt etc... Left over night.
I put it together outside the case on insulated material with 1 DIMM of RAM, HDD, Graphics Card. Same problem it eventually booted. Then it reboots fine first go while adding more and more hardware.
This is the problem once it does boot up I can reboot non stop as often as I like with no problems. If I switch off over night, when I go to cold boot in the morning it is a nightmare to get going. Is this something endemic to this board or is it a problem my particular motherboard. To me this inidcates that all the components work and that it is a motherboard problem.
I just want to know as it is only a week old and I can RMA for a new board if I do it in the next few days.
Thanks.

i'm starting to think that the problem could be related to the Graphics Card or PCI express slot. I did a second strip down of the system and noticed that when I removed the graphics card it hung on the DLED 'initalize floppy controller" and did not hang on the 'early chipset initialzation' . From BIOS changed the system setup to not to seek for A:floppy, then when I reboot (cold left overnight) without the graphics card it goes through to fully boot, can hear the HD booting up and get 4 green DLED's.(no output without a screen connected of course) The only trouble is that it virtually won't boot with my Leadtek 6800gt Graphics card at all now, it is taking 20 to 30 goes on a cold boot. However when it does it has been running for hours ok. I notice also that when I updated to the latest Nvidia Drivers, Thief 3 would start crashing in certain sections and rebooting the machine. Could this be the problem isolated stuffed Card or PCI express slot.

Clunking noise then freeze up. Upon restart there is a boot disk error.

My machine is a Slimline s3300z. Recently it has started to crash. There will be a clunking noise---possibly the hard drive? Then a reboot is required (power down/up). If I do not interceed during this process a black screen"Boot Disk Failure" message appears. If I use the ESC key to use the boot menu I can reboot successfully. This has happened probably six times in the last two days. Thanks.

You should still be able to burn your recovery discs using HP Recovery Manager in your start menu programs.
Scroll down on the page to Step 3- Create a set of Recovery Discs:
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K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI - Booting with USB attached

I've been unable to find anything definitive about this, so here goes:
I have problems with booting (hangs on post) when I have USB devices plugged in (i.e. thumb drive, ext USB drive, USB scanner). I am using v3.6 now, but haven't tried v3.7. I've received advice in the past to check BIOS - disable boot to USB device - but it still doesn't fix the problem.
Anyone experience this and know exactly how to fix it? I'm tired of disconnecting/reconnecting everything all the time.
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OK
I decided to take the plunge and update to BIOS v3.7, which I hate doing because MSI tends to break things while fixing others in their updates.
And guess what....it works!!!!!!!
I plugged in a thumb drive, USB scanner, and external USB hard drive, and it boot with them all connected.
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NEO4 Plat Sli SIL3231 Raid problem - Can't boot after BIOS Flash!

Hi, I have and Neo4 Platinum SLI. I had "the problem" a while back with the nVida raid where there was a hang on shutdown. I then created a RAID0 using my two Rators on the SIL3132 controller, and have three hitachi drives hooked up to SATA1 - SATA3. Back then, I had trouble getting my SIL3132 array to be the main boot volume. I could boot when no other drives were attached, but as soon as I attached them, I get the boot disk error after post. Somehow I got it to work, but not think this time, I flashed the BIOS and ran into the same problems, as the BIOS got reset.
First, I went in and re-enabled RAID on the sil3132 controller, and change the boot order to have the RAID voluime be the first boot device, and my other drivers be the next on down the line. Upon rebooting, my system hangs after verifying DMI pool at a blanksscreen for 5 - 10 minutes then gives my the "missing HAL.dll error". if I go back into the BIOS and disable SATA1/SATA2 and SATA3/SATA4 my computer boots just fine. I even completley disconnected my three drives an my system boots just fine. I have searched these forums and could not find anything close to my issue and wondered if it is something I am just missing in the setup. I will say that at POST my IDE devices has always read:
IDE Primary Master [None]
IDE Secondary Master [None]
IDE Primary Slave (my first DVD/R drive)
IDE Secondary Slave (My second DVD/R drive)
IDE Third Master (a 250gb drive)
IDE Fourth Master (a 250gb drive)
IDE Fifth Master (a 250gb drive)
IDE Sixth Master [None]
Is this normal? all my hard drives are SATA. the raptors and three SATAII drives.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Since the Nvida raid problem seems to have been fixed (as far as I read) I would like to go back to using the nVidia raid controller. I just need to back up my system first!
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J

Jkmet,
I have noted the same problem, with a USB Pen drive.
If I leave it plugged in and shut down, the next time I cold boot it tries to boot for the pen drive. What I found out the any time you add a drive before booting the BIOS places it at the top of the Hard Drive Priority list making it the boot drive. Same thing happens when I plug in a new SATA and does not mater where it is connected. So, what I have to do any time you add a drive with the power off you have to boot to BIOS reset the Hard drive priority list, then save, exit and reboot to boot from you windows drive.
I am sure this is a BIOS Bug, but MSI states that the way it should would work.
Roger
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K8N Neo4 Plat SLI - From Phoenix to Award Bios?

Prolly a stupid question, but BIOS upgrades always make me a little apprehensive:
All my diagnostic programs (Nero Info,3D Mark,etc.)show my existing 3.0 BIOS as Phoenix, but the MSI site calls the new 3.1 BIOS an Award BIOS.
Is this correct? Does it matter?

hi Private Idaho,
Welcome to the forum.
Phoenix took over award or visa versa anyway all the Nvidia Chipset 64s use the award bios.
If flashing from a floppy see Flashing the BIOS for Users using NON FAT file system
if you haven't got a boot disk get an image here. BootDisk.com suggest the ME 1 you need 1 with cd support as these use the virtual drive used by the MSI procedure above.
Enter bios & load defaults before flashing.
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Can anyone explain this bizarre Neo4 plat/sli circumstance?

Just had mobo upgraded to Neo4 plat/sli. I only have IDE drives in the system currently. They are PHYSICALLY connected in this way:
IDE socket 1 cable
master - 80GB HDD, empty drive
slave - DVD burner
IDE socket 2 cable
master - 120GB HDD, OS installed here (WIN XP PRO SP2)
slave - 120GB HDD, data resides on this disk.
HOWEVER...
The drives are being recognized at bootup in this way:
Primary Master - 120GB HDD with OS (physically on IDE socket 2 as master)
Primary Slave - DVD Burner (physically on IDE socket 1 as slave)
Secondary Master - 80GB HDD (physically on IDE socket 1 as master)
Secondary Slave - 120GB HDD with data (physically on IDE socket 2 as slave)
Further, the WIN XP disk management utility shows the drives in a similar manner:
Disk 0 - 120GB w/ OS (drive C:)
Disk 1 - 80GB (no drive letter)
Disk 2 - 120GB w/ data (drive E:)
DVD burner - (drive D:)
How can this be? I thought that to show as primary master, a drive must be connected to IDE socket 1 as master? And how in the world can the Primary master and slave drives reside on two different IDE cables?
I didn't do this installation and cannot talk to the tech who did until Monday. FWIW, everything is working just fine. And it all appears to be jumpered properly. But before I go about the process of loading up all my software, etc., I feel a need to understand why this is happening. Is this a function of a bios setting that I can't find?
Can anyone help?
Thanks so much!

Well, in the first place welcome to the forum, secondly what you present it's correct, the system drive (OS drive) it has to always be the drive C: that's not a question of Master and Slave because if you go to the system properties you will see those drives as they are configured in the BIOS.
But for me that is a strange configuration....
Be well....

Quick Question MSI K8N NEO 4 PLAT SLI

Hey guys,i am new to this forums just needed some help, i am about to purchase a:
AMD 64 3000 VENICE
LEDTEK 6600 GT PCI EXRESS GDDR3
CORSAIR VALUESELECT 1GB RAM DUAL CHANNEL
MSI K8N NEO 4 PLAT SLI
EPOWER 450 WATT PSU
i was wondering woud i need to update the bios 1st or will the stock bios that comes with the motherboard will work with the venice. I am getting all these parts from Zip Zoom Fly, accept the PSU. Thanks for your help.

Quote from: Dream_true on 28-June-05, 08:14:40
Only BIOS 1.4 and above support Venice & San Diego. However BIOS 1.4 has shut-down issue with RAID. It is suggested that you let your reseller help you flash BIOS to the latest version 1.5. After flashing BIOS, Loading Optimized defaults is needed of course. Good Luck!
Support new features in that cpuid yes. But that is not the same as you are not able to boot/post your system
with an earlier bios .
I booted up a venice on a K8N Neo2 with an aged 1.3 bios (with no venice SD support) just fine .
If the bios supports 90nm cpu it will post .
New CPUID added means :
Shown on post (display)
And e.g new model spesific features (like e.g SSE3 ) enabled .
Use the CPUID instruction to properly identify the processor.
• Determine the processor type, stepping, and available features by using functions 0000_0001h
and 8000_0001h of the CPUID instruction.
• Boot-up display - The processor name should be displayed according to the processor name string
defined in CPUID Guide for the AMD Athlon™ 64 and AMD Opteron™ Processors, order#
25481.
Chapter 12 , Bios and Kernel developers quide for athlon 64 . 26094.PDF

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