Neo4 Platinum (7125) Northbridge fan options.

My MSI Neo4 Platinum (7125) is a fantastic board except for one irritating issue, the northbridge fan makes way too much noise. It's now the loudest fan in my system. Problem is it sits right below the video card so whatever I get to replace it has to be low profile. I'm looking for a reliable, good performing and quiet replacement for this 7000rpm squeeler. It should have the same or better cooling performance as the original while being and staying quiet.
I looked at the Zalman passive models but they won't fit due to the proximity of the video card. Any suggestions would be very appreciated.

Found manufacture and send e-mail asking for on-line retailer in USA and Requested Newegg.com carry the product.
If a lot of people send request to Newegg.com and manufacture it may get it carried by Newegg.com.
Manufactures URL:
http://www.jingting.com.tw/product/product_cooler/product_cooler_jts0005.html
Manufacture contact E-mail address is '[email protected]'.
Roger
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Hello, all. I have started to build a new system using the K8N Neo4 Ultra (MS-7125) mobo. When installing the mobo yesterday, I noticed for the first time that two of the fan blades for the northbridge had broken off. They were not in the anti-static bag and this was the first time I had the board out. I ordered this on May 25, so I can't return it.
Would it be a good idea to replace the fan?
Any suggestions on what to use for a replacement?
Will I need to take the mobo back out of the case to replace the fan?
Thanks much.

Should still be under warranty from MSI so you should be able to RMA the board by contacting them

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Hey there,
My northbridge fan has been acting pretty strange recently, I'm kinda afraid that his death is imminent. The usual RPM that I got on this fan was 7000-7300. Now it starts to drop to something like 6700-6300 and produces a disturbing sound. The reason I find it strange is that im using this mobo for about 6 months only - no idea why the fan is so crappy here. Is this lowered RPM dangerous to my system?? The temps. inside the case usually like 32-35 degrees Celsius, the case has 5 80mm fans.
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Lorex

This is very common with those little fans. I would never bother with RMA'ing for a simple fan. If you are able to mount a motherboard, and complete assembly to a successeful running system, then you should be qualified to replace the fan. Those fans are normally a sleave bearing and it's the armature that wears out so fast. It's a crapshoot with those darn things. Some last forever, and some just take a dump right away.
Sometimes manufacturers will just send you a new fan rather than bother with an RMA for something that minor. (That is if they are smart) Some (ABIT) wouldn't do anything but take it in for RMA. However, they said I could buy one from an affiliate or replace it on my own and it wouldn't void my warranty. MSI has sent me fans, and fan assemblies for VGA cards in the past, but I did ring them up rather than bother with online forms or e-mail. I seriously doubt that MSI would void the warranty if you replaced it. Putting arctic silver on might raise a flag if you ever had to RMA for another reason. And for the amount of paste you need to apply in this particular application, arctic silver is a complete waste of material. Standard white thermal paste should do just fine. If you are using something that doesn't have mounting pins then obviously thermal tape will do the trick...
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PS AppleRenegade...
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I'm having a real stinker of a problem with my 7125 board. I have all good components, but can't seem to get this bastard to post reliably when I'm overclocking. I was thinking that it was my power supply so I bought a new Antec Neo3 650W supply and it doesn't matter. I also got a new Opteron 165 processor and it still has problems. I even RMA'd my board and then sent me a new one. Here is my setup.
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I have tried all sorts of memory timings from the crucial info - it recommends 2.8V and 2-2-2-8 timings.
I have heard that my memory is good for overclocking, but I'm now starting to wonder if it is the MSI Neo4 board or the Nvidia Nforce 4 ultra chipset.
Could it be the Raid 0 on the Sil 3114? I haven't messed with this as I would rather have a RAID 0 setup, then a little overclock.
Is there a good NF4 ultra board out there that is better than this?
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relax your CPU HTT freq. by 10-20Mhz and retest.
relax your memory timings e.g. from 2-2-2-8 to 2.5-3-3-8, to findout from where its comes then find optimal settings.

K8 Neo4 Platinum 7125 Bios 1.A fixes things!!!!

I have just updated to Bios 1.A using Live Update in Windows. Everything works and for the first time since I got the board (May 2005) I can now use my logitech wireless keyboard and mouse in USB mode. Previously I could not enter BIOS unless I used PS2 mode for the logitech and in PS2 mode the Enhanced keys did not work in Windows. Now I can get into BIOS and use Enhanced keys. Clearly MSI have fixed the USB keyboard and Mouse not working at DOS or BIOS level. I wonder what else it has fixed?

Quote from: Stick on 19-November-05, 15:36:36
jaybee, liveupdate is basically an automatized winflash. if it is safe to use winflash then why it is not safe to use liveupdate?
Because you dont have any possibility to set options , lke cmos reset ,update dmi , update bootblock .
Because you are not in control .
And it's not based on winflash .
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In my case it's C:\Program Files\Setup Files\MS-7025 v1.B0\cache\MS-7025v1.B0.exe .
In registry this is set to be deleted at next boot (see this with reg. protection : startupmonitor) .
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you full control over this critical procedure completely and makes you the descitionmaker.

K8 neo4 Platinum (7125) loses dual core on restart

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Hello !
This is a common Problem with earlier Biosses, ask for your Problem here:
http://support.msi.com.tw/
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Quote from: Civitas on 11-December-07, 03:28:29
Reinstalling the operating system seems like awful lot of work if its the power supply.
But I appreciate the advice.
This rig is about 3 years old. I will probably wait until I have some time to do this.
What drivers do you think I need to get the USB function again for now?
Thanks.
Civitas
"Reinstalling the operating system seems like awful lot of work if its the power supply."
Get a decent PSU and re-test 1st, here can be found good PSU suggestions.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=112039.msg836246#msg836246
"What drivers do you think I need to get the USB function again for now?"
Just delete them from device manager, then windows should detect and install them automatically.

Neo4 Platinum 1.6 Beta Bios For 219 Bug...

Neo4 Platinum(7125 only) Beta Bios For 219 Bug...
I got this 1.6 Beta Bios from MSI today. It's suppose to cure the 219 Bug....
http://www.lejabeach.com/MSIK8N/k8nneo4ultra/W7125nms160.rar
I have flashed from this download and the Bios is OK. Report your findings....

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Just built another setup using the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum, 7125-010. The build went very smoothly and I am very pleased with the results. Used the following components:
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1- WD 40GB Sata HD
1- Liteon DVD/RW SHM-160P6S
1- Sony 52X CD-Rom
1- Sony Floppy
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Regard's; Pop's

Quote from: workknot on 29-December-05, 00:40:46
Just built another setup using the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum, 7125-010. The build went very smoothly and I am very pleased with the results. Used the following components:
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum 7125-010 came with Bios V1.A
MSI NX6600GT TD128E
1GB module of Crucial DDR400 PC3200 CT12864Z40B running @ 3-3-3-8 1T
Rosewill R203A Case
Rosewill RV500S PSU ( +3.3v=30a, +5v=45a, +12v=26a )
AMD64 3700 SD @ 2.211
2- 92mm Silverstone case fans
1- WD 40GB Sata HD
1- Liteon DVD/RW SHM-160P6S
1- Sony 52X CD-Rom
1- Sony Floppy
System Temp @ idle = 30c, CPU Temp @ idle = 33c, GPU Temp @ idle = 43c
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Regard's; Pop's
Yep I do like Neo4 plat After seeing the way the board runs, I try use them more on builds

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Hello everybody,
I have two identical PCs with the Neo4 Platinum (7125,1.0) Mainboad with BIOS 1.8 and 4400+ (Toledo) CPU. The powersupply is a 535Watt Enermax.
Memory is 2 x 1GB Kingston (KVR400X64C3AK2/2G). I use only the PATA.
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- disabling and reanabling the sound
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Thanks

Quote from: nheimler on 07-September-05, 21:04:46
as far as i know it does as i have the 4400+. nice cpu btw.
The BIOS history claims that the E6 Stepping (which is the Toledo) support was added with version 1.8.
So I fear we will loose the second core again.
Tobias

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I've had a K8N platinum motherboard for about a year and a half now and have had lots of problems with the northbridge fan. The first one they included started rattling and went out within about 6 months. I replaced it with another socket fan, which has recently started making the same noises. I decided to give up on these fans since they did not last and attached a heatsink. I booted up my computer however, and discovered that the heatsink is hot to the touch. I reinstalled windows on my machine and no longer have the diagnostic software which tells me the temperature for my northbridge chipset. I have heard different accounts for how hot a north bridge chip should be.
Does anyone have any advice? How hot can the north bridge get without getting fried? Should I leave on the heatsink or replace it with a better ball bearing fan? Any suggestions for good fans?

marcus65,
That was one of the issues I had with finding a cooling solution for my motherboard. I attached an ATI graphics card (x700 i believe) and it does cover the northbridge partially. I bought a zalman heatsink which was about an inch and a half high and did not fit between the northbridge and the video card. I had to find a shorter heatsink. Thanks to everyone that posted suggestions. I think I will order a ball bearing fan/heatsink for my northbridge.
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Hi guys,
I'm trying to shut my MS-7125 Neo4 Platinum NB fan up. My XFX 6800GT vid card prevents me from using the blue Zalman passive cooler, unless I bend or remove its fans, which I haven't gotten around to. So I'm looking for alternatives, one of which is simply undervolting the stock fan, after cleaning the interface between chip and heatsink and applying Arctic Silver 5.
Of course, to make that workable, I need a reliable temperature reading for the Northbridge chip. Many posters have suggested that "Fan1" in Speedfan is the NB on the MS-7125. However, I saw one thread (will edit and link it later) that suggested that that reading is actually for the Winbond chip closer to the corner of the board, not the actual NB. If that's the case, then I don't really know what temp the NB is at, and I don't feel safe undervolting its fan.
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g2006, Be careful when interpreting statement given to you by tecnicians.
I know: I had to post a screen cap to convince him that CoreCenter didn't have a NB fan speed control slider. In fact, like many newbies, he thought the nb fan alarm slider was the nb fan speed controller. It's after pointing these stuff that I got the info that there wasn't a temp sensor on the nf4 chip. I kept asking and correcting his misconception until, I assume, when he saw that he didn't know about this particular board, and might have asked the right questions to the source. The later answers were more informed, less conceited; might have been a different person altogether. But of course I might have misassumed (is that a word )
But as you said, they still recommended to RMA...
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try this. 1- Unplug your MSI Fan and see what happens to your SYS/NB temp, your should see a 2-3 deg C increase at idle and aa 6-8 deg C at load.
When I get a way to physically control the speed (rheostat), I'll take time to do lower the speed to see how it affects the speedfan temp for the "sys" monitor.
I'll try to check also were this "system" temp sensor is supposed to be placed, according to some here and there on some forums, and test briefly with a hair blower or something more accurate to check those allegations.
What made me dismiss altogether the "system temp" as being the nf4 temp sensor is some people on boards (here and elsewhere), using the zalman nb47j, reporting that it was getting quite hot to the touch, but with speedfan reporting the sys temp as low (35-40c) nonetheless; but of course this is relying on others, I should test this somehow myself...
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2- Install speedfan on your computer and use its manual fan speed control features to slow or shut down the fan that registers around 5200 - 5400 rpm.
I do use speedfan. The 7125 nf4 fan registers around 7300rpm ( ) on speedfan and corecenter.
Both speedfan and corecenter can monitor and modify cpu fan speed.
In fact, in the Manual itself, p. 2-16 (about the connectors) it says explicitely that the CPUFAN1 supports fan control; it doesn't mention this capacity for the other connectors, which is a good indicator that only CPUFAN1 has it.
NF4 fan is connected to NBFAN1 connector; I have another fan connected to SFAN1 connector, which also has a speed sensor according to the manual; but again, no impact on fan speed using speedfan... and none promised, if one reads the manual: only the CPU fan is actually said to be speed controllable.
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Do you have Cool & Quiet activated?
CnQ is CPU centered, at least reading from the manual. I don't know about the Neo2 that you have, maybe you have more options on this, but the manual for 7125 is explicit on this (p. 3-26, for those who have the manual).
I also would like others' views/experiences on this.

K8N Neo4 Platinum - fan replacement

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Quote from: Iceman81 on 07-July-05, 07:30:38
Hello there, I too had the same problem after 1 month of having the K8N Neo4 Platinum Motherboard. All was well and silent then all of a sudden the NORTHBRIDGE fan started clattering and getting very loud to which was very disturbing.
The only way around this is completely taking out the "MSI" provided NORTHRBIDGE fan by removing the motherboard from the case and pressing on the clips on back of the board that hold the fan and then popping in a new NORTHBRIDGE fan/cooler. I found a great replacement for the cheapie MSI provided fan in the "VANTEC CCB-A1C Ball VGA COOLER" which is all copper based and purchased from www.newegg.com for under 15 US dollars shipped.
Below is the picture of what the fan I recommend looks like...
I have since been using the "VANTEC ICEBERG COPPER COOLER" and the NForce4 chipset has been running very-very cool and was a perfect fit!
Take care, Ice!
Sorry to revive an old thread but looking at my problem and how often it was that question asked here, I want you to help clear things up...
Is this Cooler you are referring to, this one? The same model and everything?
http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-23998289-cooler-chipset-o-video-vantec-iceberq-modding-_JM
Because if it is, I can buy it here knowing I will have that cooler replaced...
Another thing, Which is better? Titanium or copper? cos the titanium one is cheaper...
Thanxs a lot for helping me out pals...
EDIT: Sorry, pal... Didn't mean to offend anyone

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