Neo4 Platinum failed to cold boot?

when power up the system, power LED is lighted, the CPU fan is running, everything seems to be ok, but no screen, no BEEP sound--> hang
need to press RESET button many times, then it will boot to OS without any problem, and system is stable
what's the problem?
thanks for any advice!!!
MB: MSI Neo4 Platinum, BIOS: v1.2
RAM: 512MBx2
CPU: K8 3200+, overclocked to 240x10

Hi all, 1st post here.
System specs:
AMD 3000+ CPU Winchester CBBID
MSI K8N Neo4 SLI Platinum with latest bios
MSI NX6600GT video card
OCZ PowerStream 420 PSU
2 x 256mg OCZ Gold rev 3 dual channel set
Asus DVD-Rom E616P2
Maxtor 80 gig SATA pluged in on SATA #4
Floppy drive
WinXP Pro SP2
I am also affected by this cold boot issue when overclocking. Anything above 229 will give me this issue.
The PSU I am using was running 6 months on an Intel rig without issues and the memory is memtest stable upto 250 at stk.
On top of the cold boot issue I was getting a BSOD sometimes when booting into winxp after the Core Center loads. I noticed I had a jumper on the hdd set to master, so I removed it and the blue screens have stopped ... so far. I was told by a friend that I should plug the HDD into #3 or #4 Sata connector which I did.
Vcore 1.45v + 3.3%
NF4 1.6v
Memory 2.7v on auto according to cpuz128 2.5,3,3,8 1T
HT 3x
CPU ratio 9x
I am able to reach 250 HTT speed (FSB) by using clockgen and it passes windows memtest and is OCCT stable.
However, the only way I have found to pass the 229 barrier in the bios and not have a cold boot, is to set the HT multi to 2x or 1x.
Anything more will produce a cold boot.
Since I removed the jumper from the HDD The system has been running without issues at 226 HTT speed (FSB).
I tried to OC past 229 again and got a cold boot at 230 ... again.
I was using a K8N NF4-F before and had the same cold boot issue however, it would not go over 229 unless the HT multi was set to 1x.
If it doesn't post do the following:
If system is on with a black screen, shut down by holding the start button until it does.
Turn off monitor, speakers and switch off on power supply.
Remove the power cord from power supply.
Push the start button until nothing lights up when you do. This will drain any juice left in capacitors.
After doing this you can reconnect the power supply, turn on the monitor, then the switch on the power supply. I have noticed many times that when you turn on the power supply switch the system will start up without pushing the start button.
If it's still dead, do all of the above again and add this extra step:
After you have pushed the start button to remove any power left in capacitors, push the CMOS clear button on the board and hold it about 1 second.
Then reconnect etc etc.
In the countless times I have done this I have never had to remove the battery but that would be the last thing I would try if all of the above doesn't work for you.
If you cleared the CMOS you will need to enter the system time, date and any other settings you had.
I hoping MSI will address this issue.
The only work around so far I found it using clockgen.

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