Neo4 Ultra Platinum (7125) + GeIL DDR400 1.5-2-2-5

Hi,
I am trying to install GeIL low latency memory CL=1.5 to Neo4 Ultra (Platinum) (7125). Is there a bios that supports Tcl 1.5 ?
Any mod bios that support tihs ? Anyone ? Link ?
Please help, can't wait to test it to 1.5, I waited long to get this limited edition... So far A64 tweaker is doing fine, but I would like to use BIOS. DFI LanParty support Tcl=1 and 1.5.
How to mod bios myself to reach this?

Quote from: wonkyd on 12-July-05, 17:47:03
Its becuase you have a RAID 0 on the NVidia SATA ports, there is a bug that stops the system from restarting. Use the silicon image for now untill its fixed.
Silicon image?

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When I purchased my motherboard i did so from Mwave as an bundle package, AMD 64 3000+/MSI Neo4 NF4/SLi/ and basically I choose the only ram they offered cause I wanted them to test everything out before sending it off to me and yeah I was trying to save some money too, stupid me....now I'm buying the memmory I should have and I have 2 sticks I paid for unecessarily and Ill be lucky to recoupe 75% of what I paid for them, the ram I bought with this bundle package was just the plain vanilla Crucial pc3200/ddr400, cl3....actually I was surprized because I was able to get the fsb to 220mhz before it satrted logging errors, this effectively clocked my cpu from stock 1808mhz to 1998mhz, anyway after a suggestion from one of the Msi forum mods here, I went shopping for some pc4000, in a couple of days I will get it, who of you out there run the same ram in a similar system? and what performance( i.e. 260mhz fsb) from your experience can I expect to get from it , my rigs specs are in my sig btw and thanks for any input
GeIL Ultra Platinum PC4000 500MHz Dual Channel DDR Kit
1GB (2X512MB) Dual Channel DDR Kits.
# 184pin, Non-ECC, Un-buffered, high performance DDR memory modules.
# GeIL 3.5ns 32x8 Density DDR Chip.
# 6 Layers Ultra Low Noises Shielded PCB with Gold 30u" Plating.
# Optimized SPD for Intel 875/865 chipset Dual Channel DDR motherboards.
# Platinum Copper Heat Spreader.
# Lifetime Warranty .
# CAS 2.5 7-4-4 @ DDR500MHz PC4000
# 2.6V-3.1V

Take a look at this list of RAM types and chips used - Memory Database
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PROBLEM : BUILDING DMI POOL -WITH- K8N NEO4 PLATINIUM, Ultra nForce 7125

Hello
Problem with motherboard K8N NEO4 Platinum!!!
Description - BUILDING DMI POOL
Configuration:
MOTHERBOARD K8N NEO4 PLATINIUM, Ultra nForce 7125
AMD Athlon 64, 3700, Socket 939
Video: ASUS Carries to an extreme N6200TC, 256 RAM
2 JIG RAM Kingston PC3200 CL3 184-PIN DIMM KIT(2 PSC) model: KVR400X64C3AK2/2G
Power Supply RAIDMAX +24 PIN +4 PIN CPU+SATA 450W
I want to initialize the PC from the CD to install WIN XP, I can change the beginning sequence FROM the BIOS configuring the CD like first device, but from the menu boot with F11 I cannot change the boot order, this fixed one in the +HHD
Already change for several HHD, CD and Power Supply but the continuous problem!!!!!!!!!!
I believe that it is a problem with the CMOS it already cleans it from the reset button and it doesn't pass anything!!!!!!!
Thank You, for your help…

Borger_Montr,
The think you problem maybe the +12V@22A on your Power Supply, I highly recommend a Minimum of 28-30A and I repeat minimum.
If I am right you can prove it this way, you say you cannot even boot from Floppy drive or CD.
Leaving you case sides off unplug all of your case fans, power supply, CPU and motherboard Chipset fans are all you need if your turning it on for a short test.
In addition, Unplug all drives except for the floppy drive.
Then, insert a bootable disk into the floppy drive.
Boot the system, it should boot from the floppy with no problems.
If it boots from the floppy, you need a new power supply and when buy your new PS total power is a useless number. The +12V output current rating the one to look for on a single rail supply like you have now again 30A Minimum 35-40A would be better, on multiple +12V power supply each rail should be rated at 20A Minimum. I do not care how many rails you has each must have 20A or more. Another thing to make sure of make sure the power supply has all the correct cables and connect you motherboard and Graphics cards. Each graphics card and all of the power connectors on the motherboard should have there own cable with correct plugs that connect directly to the Power Supply. For no reason should you need any power cable adapters, all that means is that power supply was not meant for your system.
If you need any more details of instruction or I did not explain something well enough that you understood completely, please reply and ask pacific questions.
Roger
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Neo4 Platinum (7125) Northbridge fan options.

My MSI Neo4 Platinum (7125) is a fantastic board except for one irritating issue, the northbridge fan makes way too much noise. It's now the loudest fan in my system. Problem is it sits right below the video card so whatever I get to replace it has to be low profile. I'm looking for a reliable, good performing and quiet replacement for this 7000rpm squeeler. It should have the same or better cooling performance as the original while being and staying quiet.
I looked at the Zalman passive models but they won't fit due to the proximity of the video card. Any suggestions would be very appreciated.

Found manufacture and send e-mail asking for on-line retailer in USA and Requested Newegg.com carry the product.
If a lot of people send request to Newegg.com and manufacture it may get it carried by Newegg.com.
Manufactures URL:
http://www.jingting.com.tw/product/product_cooler/product_cooler_jts0005.html
Manufacture contact E-mail address is '[email protected]'.
Roger
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Will Geil Ultra Platinum DDR533 ( 2 x 512 MB ) Work On My 865PE-Neo2-FIS2R

Hey Guys,
Will Geil Ultra Platinum DDR533 ( 2 x 512 MB ) Work On My 865PE-Neo2-FIS2R ??
How Much Will It Overclock Approximately Only When D.O.T Enabled ??
How About Geil Ultra Platinum DDR500 ( 2 x 512 MB ) ??

ok, if you're planning on buying 533 ram , it would prob be a waste to use DOT.. manually OCing will give you best results.. DOT will DEF not use Geil's full potential or even half the speed it shoudl run at.. the DDR 533 should work fine with your board, and if it doesnt just return it.. but should work ok.. i have PC 4000 (DDR 500) now and it works great.. runs fine with 865PE..
DOT is not an exact overclock.. it fluxuates.. i thnk the highest you can get out of DOT is 15%?? (correct me if im wrong).. i dont know how big your CPU is, but that would mean if it were mine (3.0C) mine would go up to 3.45 MAX, and it wouldnt even styay there, it would fluxate, depends on CPU load and programs..
with maunal overclock, you could OC your CPU up to 1.33 times what is is
so FOR EXAMPLE: 3.0ghz ---> 4.0ghz
now, i couldnt do this without some heavy duty cooling, but the ram could do it just fine.. kep that in mind...

MOVED: neo4 sli/platinum 7100+ 3000+venice. OC HELP

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3.6 should be fine, I think, as I have not heard of any problems with it. I have not tried it because I don't have any problems with 3.5 that might be fixed by 3.6.
Configuration::
Athlon 64 3000+ Venice
MSI K8N SLI Platinum (BIOS 3.5 - also worked with 3.2 and earlier)
2 * 512mb DDR DIMM (Geil Value with 2.5 3 3 6 timings)
I have photographed a few pages in my BIOS and uploaded them here: http://www.tentonine.fast24.co.uk/msi/bios.htm
Some Geil Value RAM has worse timings than mine - if yours is not 2.5 3 3 6, then you will have to look up on the Geil website to see what all the other RAM timings should be.
If you just set your RAM to 150MHz and leave the timings on auto, it will probably not work. The BIOS detects the best timings at 150MHz, but your RAM is actually being over-clocked back to 200MHz or more, so you need to manually enter the correct settings for 200MHz.

Confused - whats the difference between K8N Neo4 SLI Platinum and Diamond??

MSI web page says the Diamond has:
"Silicon Image's SATA RAID supports another 2 SATA II ports. Transfer rate is up to 300MB/s."
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=638
their Platinum page doesn't list the Silicone Image raid as a feature on the Platinum.
I have K8N Neo4/SLI Platinum and it has the Silicone Image raid - I'm using it now.
Can anyone explain this?
Another question: for both boards it shows: "NV RAID (Software) - - RAID function available for ATA133 + SATA HD drives or 2 SATA HD"
How can the Raid fuction work for ATA133 drives since the cables for SATA and PATA are different? What do the mean Raid for 133?
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Tony

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?board=36.0
d/l a raid manual and all should be clear

Neo4 Ultra Plat. / Opty 175 / Corecenter 2.0.2.1 errors on boot :(

Heya., Been running my Neo4 Ultra Plat. since they first came out. This is a PCB v1.0. Thought i'd pop a Opty 175 in it and test drive it. It's running the latest 1D bios and all the most recent drivers. It's really odd Corecenter installs fine and runs ok but soon as I reboot if fails at life during system boot. Maybe 1 outta 10 times it won't error. Once it errors it just refuses to run period. So for fun I wrote a .exe to exec CoreCenter 60secs later on start to let everything else finish loading but with still the same problems. Is this latest CoreCenter compatible with DualCore procs. ?

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• MSI Hardware monitor & overclocking & fan speed control tool
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K8N Neo4 SLI Platinum and Dual Core

I just received my new MSI K8N Neo4 LSI Platinum motherboard and I am waiting on my new processor AMD Athalon64 dual core 4400+. My questions are:
1. If the bios on the motherboard is not the latest one will the motherboard boot with the dual core processor. If not what are my options?
2. If I manage to boot, and all the components are new, assuming I will boot into DOS, can I make a bios update from there or I need to install Windows and then do a bios update?
3. And what are the bios update procedures for MSI motherboards?
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Quote from: Dream_true on 30-June-05, 14:02:02
hi,
In order to use dual core CPU on the MB, update BIOS to the latest version (3.4 and above) before using it. After flashing BIOS, please enter BIOS Load Optimized defaults, Save&exit it, then change CPU to dual core one.
For how to update BIOS, refer to:
http://www.msi.com.tw/html/support/bios/note/award.htm
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Any modded BIOS for Neo4-F MS-7125 (PCB 1.0)........???

Guys I was wondering if there is any modded BIOS for my Neo4-F (MS-7125) I have. I read somwhere that there is, probably the ,Murdoch modded BIOS....so if anyone can help me with the address.....Thanks a lot...

Thanks for the feeback
I did what the folks at MSI put in their BIOS Flashing instructions. I used the live update as stated and didn't get the desired result. I can't afford to have my PC down while I spend weeks chasing down obscure instructions that should have been included in the Flash Bios install procedure.
How would one know what to do to perform this miracle Bios Flashing? Can you explain what the /py /sn /wb /cd /cc /ld /e switches are for? Also, why would one clear the cmos or have to ""Load Optimized Defaults"" when no hardware or cmos settings have been changed? Also, what method are you suggesting with the command line awfl859g w7125nms.1d ???
Inquiring minds want to know.
Again thanks for the info.

Problems with K8N Neo4 Ultra

I have a problem with my computer, then i start it comes with a piture of CoreCell and there stands Corecell-Extreme Chip you've ever needed and the D-Bracket says it is at Bios sign on at nothing happen after that ??
Can some one help me...
I have a CPU athlon 64 3200+ skt939 512K
K8N Neo4 Ultra s939 4xDDR400
3 x 512 DDR SDRAM PC3200 333 mhz
SpaceSlug

Quote from: SpaceSlug on 20-December-06, 17:33:57
Thx now it is working
A64 work with 1,2 or 4 sticks mate, where 2 sticks is best variant/option.
you are welcome mate.

MSI NF4 Ultra Platinum help desperately wanted

Hi all,
hope that someone can help me.
My new nf4 Ultra platinum arrived today with new gfx card so dismantled my existing pc setup (msi neo2 platinum) and got going on building it. Everything was going quite well and installed xp and so forth. Installed Fear and within seconds of it starting I get this constant loud tone coming from case; before I manage to exit i get a long loop of the game sound before it reboots. Had my Opteron 146 at 3.0ghz with the neo2 but can't even be at 2.0 without problem playing a game.
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Would really appreciate some guidance and maybe some help clocking my opty back to 3.0ghz on this board - but first, can someone tell me what the constant loud tone means?
Many thanks

Check your memory brand and type and then check voltage that it requires, not all ram runs at 2.5 so you may need to increase your ram voltage.
Also manually adjust your memory timings to 2.5-5-5-7-2T until you can get the machine stable.

Bios Settings For MSI K8N Neo4/SLI Platinum MB

Hello all... Has anyone came up with the best and most stable bios settings for the MSI K8N Neo4/SLI Platinum motherboard yet. Specifically under the CPU and Memory menus.
If anyone has seen any, please post them. or post a link.
Thanks
DaaDoctor

Well that depends on the installed CPU and memory, doesnt it? So I find that question kinda odd.
One thing though: Dont use Cool n Quiet.

Fsb problem with Neo4 Ultra

I have been having a problem with my neo4 ultra that seems to be pretty common.
I can not boot past a fsb of 219 reliably.
My system is
AMD64 3200+
MSI K8N Neo4 nForce4 Ultra
Wavemaster Case
OCZ Gold Series Dual 1GB DDR PC-3200
Thermalright XP-90
OCZ ModStream 520W
Sapphire Radeon X800 XL
I am doing it all with clockgen to up my FSB to find the best results. I am on 1.24 BIOS
My Basic BIOS settings are
FSB = 219
HTT = 4x
Mem at 166 Voltage at 2.85
Mem Timmings at 2.5-3-2-8 1T
CPU 10x startup - cpu-z reports voltage at 1.58
Rasied FSB by 5 at a time to 251 and super pi failed.
Changed vcore to 1.60 and the best I could get super pi to run at was 247. So I decided to start fine tunning my memory.
I set mem to 180 2.5-3-3-10-1T
Used clockgen again and what was interesting was FSB of 255 passed with a superpi of 34 sec. Now it failed at fsb258.
Changed mem timmings to 200 2.5-3-3-10-1T
And best I could get was fsb=230 and superpi failed. I decided to keet the 180 divider and see how far I can drop the timming at 180.
So I ended up at this
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HTT 4x
Mem 180 2-3-2-8 1T volts = 2.85
CPU 10x Volts cpu-z reports 1.63
Runs prime stable all night at these settings.
But here is the thing if I go into the BIOS and change fsb to 221 My machine will not boot.
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Now it seems that there is a limitation on the board of 1.55 vcore with a Winnie. Even using the overvoltage setting. What is that all about? You put overclocking friendly on the retail box, on the product page on the main site, and all the review sites say overclocking potential is graet, and then you limit the vcore to 1.5v? Crazy logic (or should I say "Fuzzy Logic") I am close to eBaying this board (only had it 2 - 3 days, but won't send it back to ZZF for replacement as all of them could have the same problem) and go with the DFI or the Abit Fatality.
Am I saying all this right?

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London, United Kingdom

Then there is a post here in the forum where some guys are talking about the replacement of that hsf and I think they did find one of some brand that I do not recall at the moment, but search here and you will find it...
Be well....

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