Network Management of Cisco CPT Infrastructure

Good day,
I work for a managed services provider, and have a client whose network infrastructure is provided over a Cisco CPT environment. There is a mix of CPT 600, CPT 200, and CPT 50, running in CTC mode rather than IOS mode.
I am looking to see if anyone has experience in using a network monitoring system (other than Cisco Prime/CTC) to monitor the environment, and if so, what they're using.
I started by trying to see if I could poll the various CPT devices via SNMP gets, but the CERENT mibs that I've looked at do not seem to get me the MPLS-TP level things that I am interested in (TP tunnels, LSPs on working or protect path, Pseudowires up/down, for example).
I'm now sending SNMP traps from each of my CPT nodes to my NMS that I use for other clients, which is also an SNMP trap receiver, and it seems to give me a good deal of information related to the LSP's, Pseudowires, and various transport-level information. I am curious whether anyone has used anything else to monitor a CPT environment, or if traps are the way to go.
On a secondary note, I'm trying to determine what things are critical for me to have alerts on, and which things are more "nice to haves". There's a huge list of things I can send traps on within the CERENT mibs, but clearly not all of them are service impacting or critical.
Does anyone have CPT in production and would be able to share some insight? If the above is unclear, I'd be more than happy to clarify.
thanks in advance.

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This Ask The expert Session will cover questions spanning Cisco Prime Infrastructure on Implementation and Deployment on Wired and Wireless. This will be more specific to Customer’s and Partners questions product covering PI on configuration, Features and Menu, Network Monitoring, Maps, Implementation, High Availability and Maintenance and t/s parts.
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