Network with some comps using ethernet, some airport

Hello,
I intend to create a wireless network, possibly with Airport Extreme, in my apartment, for use with my MacBook and MacBook Pro. However I have two desktop comps as well, a PC and a PM G5 without wireless cards. I do not want to buy cards for the desktops because of lack of money and also because the PM G5 is in the basement where the Airport signal would not reach. So, is it in any way possible to have ethernet and airport at my apartment at the same time? Does Airport support that?
Here is the current (simple) internet setup:
Internet > DSL Modem > ethernet rooter/hub > ethernet cables > computers
And also it would be pretty much crucial to share files between the "wirelessed" laptops and the "cabeled" desktops back and forth.
Thanks for the help.

So, is it in any way possible to have ethernet and airport at my apartment at the same time? Does Airport support that?
Yes and yes. That is why the AirPort Extreme base station (AEBS) has LAN Ethernet port (or ports).
Internet > DSL Modem > ethernet rooter/hub > ethernet cables > computers
Just replace your "ethernet rooter/hub" with the AEBS.

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If you have stations connected via Ethernet and want them to appear as a single seamless wireless network, configure them as follows:
Same SSID (network name).
Different channels. As far apart as possible.
Same wireless encryption type/level/password.
Only the base station connected to the Internet source distributes IP addresses. All the others are configured as bridges.
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It appears that you want to mix the 2 type of connections. This is easily done and here is a simple example:
base1 Ethernet base2
In this example base1 and base 2 are configured as I suggested above for Ethernet connections.
Now add base3 connected wirelessly:
base1 Ethernet base2 wireless base3
Now base2's configuration must be modified slightly so that it acts as a WDS main. base3 is configured to act as a WDS remote (or relay).
No changes are needed to base1 since it is completely unaware and uninvolved in the WDS link between base2 and base3.

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Now that I have the two units (purchased on sale from Apple this past week), the directions in the manual only include instructions for using them as network extenders with a primary basestation that is Apple? Is this the case?

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So, can I expand my signal, just adding more airport express?
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Some people do report success but I would be wary of their results, they may not have down/upped the interface so the MTU may have been listed as changed, but not yet actually changed to the larger MTU. No-one has actually posted a tcpdump -e capture showing an Airport actually sending/receiving packets in excess of 1500 bytes.
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