Networking G5 to old OS9 G4
The situation: I'm trying to network a G5 with a G4, running OS 9 that was made prior to 2000, so target disk won't work. I've got the G4 plugged into a router via ethernet, and the G5 is wireless through airport. Ive turned file sharing "ON" for the G4 but I don't see it on the G5. I was under the impression that it would simply show up in my G5's network but that doesn't seem to be the case. Any help would be greatly appreciated so that I can get all my work on Zip Disk's onto my G5 for burning. Thanks!
On the G4, open the File Sharing control panel and allow connections through TCP/IP; next, note down the G4's IP address. If it still doesn't show up on the G5, choose Connect to Server from the Finder's Go menu on the G5, provide the IP address you noted down, followed by an username and password set on the G4 in the File Sharing control panel.
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