New 27" iMac display allows input - without booting up??

The new iMac sounds very tempting as a non Mac user.
Just had one question. (Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere.)
Can I use it purely as a display without the iMac booting up??
eg If I also purchase a Mac Mini at a later date can this be used for display?
This may serve future proof my purchase.
The following suggests yes:
"Mini DisplayPort.
The Mini DisplayPort lets you connect an external display, including the Apple LED Cinema Display, to your iMac. On the 27-inch iMac, the same port offers input, too. So you can connect any external source that has DisplayPort output — including a MacBook or MacBook Pro — and use your iMac as a display."
But if someone can confirm that will increase my confidence here
Thanks

Welcome!
The new models were announced only this week and may not be shipping yet. As everybody here are end users, I doubt anyone can confirm until they start arriving.
You would do better to watch the Intel Mac forum for user reports of the new models. The one you're now in is for the oldest iMacs with CRT monitors. Intel iMac forums are here:
http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=189

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