New 3.46 k8t neo2 BIOS and agp lock

does the agp lock work now?
or with the 9betas. is it working?
on k8t neo2
thanks. i have 3.30 and it'S not working on my board :(

Quote from: Toaster56 on 24-June-05, 05:01:41
well i guess the lock is working. i might just have a bad cpu.
http://img68.echo.cx/img68/7518/agpfre8pe.jpg
'Bad' would be a subjective statement in this case. If you do have an early batch Winchester, it overclocks less than the later batches. But it still gives you a lot more than you paid for.
P.S.
Following your link, I noticed your Vcore is a bit low at 200 MHz. When overclocking, you should raise it some to get above 225 MHz and be stable. At 230, something like 1.49v should do the trick. Also, what kind of power supply do you use?

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Hi there.
I am a proud(?) owner of the K8T Neo2 motherboard. This is the "pro" version, with the supposedly working AGP lock. But it is not working at ALL.
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I really want to overclock some, but an FSB of ~215 (preferably below if I want it to be stable in windows) is as far as I can go.
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Yeah, the agp is not working and I've tried just about everything. I've flashed the bios with an update and all that crap. I know the agp bus isn't locked because the system does not boot at any htt above ~220 mhz and if it does boot it is very unstable and crashes. And, when I oc in windows, agp disables itself with high ocs. There was one time when the agp somehow stayed locked and I was able to run solid at 2.5 ghz. I have no idea how it stayed locked and it should be able to stay locked with the 66 MHZ AGP LOCK selected in the bios.
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MSI K8T Neo2 - Problem with AGP frequency...

Hi there.
I am a proud(?) owner of the K8T Neo2 motherboard. This is the "pro" version, with the supposedly working AGP lock. But it is not working at ALL.
If I set the AGP frequency to 66, my computer wont boot. With or without overclock, it just wont boot. I have the latest BIOS, the 3.3 version, still - nothing.
I really want to overclock some, but an FSB of ~215 (preferably below if I want it to be stable in windows) is as far as I can go.
Please tell me if there is any way I can fix this. Please tell me that I've missed some important BIOS setting and it will all work out for the best.
My other hardware include a 360W chieftek PSU, a radeon 9800 pro and a winchester 3500+.

Thanks for the reply, I'm glad to hear that it is working for someone atleast, this gives me hope.
I tried following your tips. Loading optimized defaults was easy enough, it is the other things im not so sure about.
You said to "then disable the Onboard components you don't need". My question, are these onboard components found in the bios under "Integrated Peripherals"?
I'm not exactly sure what I can enable and disable, because im not very experienced.
Besides my other hardware as you saw above, I have a "Maxtor 160GB SATA DiamondMax Plus9".
I tried to disable some "PATA" option in the BIOS, but it didnt find my harddrive after that. This is why I'm confused and not sure what to disable (I thought I could disable the PATA since I have SATA, im clueless).
Also, when I boot it says, "No drive attached to fasttrack controller". What this means, I have no idea.
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MSI K8T Neo2 FIR and USB2

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Hi
Get Wonka to chase up MSI, he will have more clout, perhaps.
I will recheck that all the wires are onto pins on mine, it took 3 seperate attempts to get the Neo Clawhammer working, missing the pins with wires - I need one of those magnifyong lights, and a new set of eyes and fingers.
Check with Balarc Advisor or similar, that the USB2 driver update loaded OK, you might need to install it again.
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K8T Neo2-F + Liveupdate

Hi. I just got a 3200 venice for my k8t neo2-f, and I need to update the bios.
I was just wondering why liveupdate does not show any of the 9 series bioses...
If there is no way to winflash the bios (prefered, noting the risks) how would I flash from a CD (I have no floppy)

Quote from: Tiresmoke on 26-January-06, 08:32:37
OK now let Live Update create a flash disk with 3.x...
Remember, he doesn't have any FDD.
@ranciddy,
Do you have some CD burning software handy, that is capable of creating a bootable CD? Maybe you need an image of a bootable floppy, these you can get on www.bootdisk.com Some CD burning apps like Nero also have images of bootable disks incorporated.
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Then create a bootable CD project with your burning app. Put the BIOS-folder into the project window and select some bootable floppy image as source for the boot files. Please refer to the documentation of your burning software.
Then boot from that CD, change to the drive you stored your BIOS update and run it from there.
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Boot and OS install issues with K8T Neo2 F

Can anybody shed light on my difficulties?
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Swapped around memory modules;
Did repeated JBAT1 data clears (NB if you happen to get a board with the V1.0 user guide, note that the JBAT1 diagram appears upside down - pin one is closest to the SATA slots (page 2 - 24). The MSI downloadable user guide (V1.2) has that error corrected (page 2-25)
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Paul, there have been people here that have had to strip their system down to the bare minimum hardware to get windows to complete the install, so try that. I had trouble completing my windows install as long as I was trying to install the RAID drivers at F6. So I ignored the prompt at F6 and windows installed fine. Then I installed my RAID drivers afterward.
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http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/testreport_pdf/6702E/memory.pdf
http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?Mfr%2BProductline=MSI+%28Micro+Star%29%2B+Motherboards&mfr=MSI+%28Micro+Star%29&cat=RAM&model=MS-6702E+%28K8T+Neo2-FIR%29&submit=Go
http://www.mushkin.com/epages/mushkin.storefront/EN/product/991140
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/Athlon_64_Unbuffered_DIMM_AVL.pdf
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RG, where R=red and G=green
GG
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BIOS Type/Revision: Unknown, whatever came loaded on a new board. Cleared via the jumper.
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Thanks!

Situation update:
I tried unplugging the HDD IDE cable, and am now able to get into BIOS (thanks Ui30!). Unfortunately, there are still some problems. BIOS fails to auto-detect the HDD as Primary Master and DVD-RW as Secondary Master. I set them to type 9 per the Western Digital install guide, and CD/DVD-ROM, respectively. (If someone knows what number to enter for "write precompensation" I have the rest of the info to manually configure the HDD). I cannot edit the boot sequence in BIOS to include these devices.
On the next boot attempt with HDD reconnected, BIOS reports "Primary Master HDD Error" and "Secondary Mater is ATAPI incompatible". However, it is trying to read the floppy drive, and I have included it as the 1st item in the boot sequence. On subsequent boot attempts without the HDD connected, BIOS looses my settings and reverts to "no device" for the Primary Master.
The BIOS is A6702VMS V3.4B2, dated 2/25/05. Is flashing the most recent BIOS likely to help any of these problems? I plan to do this eventually anyway for dual channel memory support. Is bootstrapping it now off the floppy likely to cause problems worse than what I'm facing already?
D-Bracket still reports
RG
GG
I tried limiting the RAM to DDR200, but that didn't seem to do anything over the auto mode.
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