New Airport Extreme better?

I have the old Airport Express(round disc shaped) and our PBG4 & MBP simply don't connect in certain parts of our house.
I'm wondering if the newer Extreme(ml053?) would work since it claims twice the range.
BTW, we tried software updates and it didn't help.
Thanks

Hi stage4survivor,
The range of any particular computer operating under a particular protocol is going to depend on things like case design and material, aerial placement, etc. My MBP wasn't that different to my PB12, when I was operating both on 802.11g (with an older "space ship" Airport Extreme base station like yours), but some other PB's had better wireless capability than my "first gen" alu PB12. It wouldn't surprise me if some PB's have better range under "g" than MBPs do. The MBP, under, "n" is a much better performer however.
On 802.11n (or even on "mixed mode" g/n), however, the MBP beat the pants off the "g only" PB.
I suspect that you will find that if you get an 802.11n AE base station it will solve your problems as far as the MBP is concerned. My suggestion in terms of your old base station was simply in terms of using it to get broader coverage in current problem areas in your house when using 802.11g with the PB.
Hope that makes things clearer.
Cheers
Rod

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New Airport Extreme, internet on some devices, not others

To All:
I bought one of the new Airport Extreme routers (the verticle model) for my home wifi system yesterday and installed it. Although the performance is obviously much better on those devices that have been able to connect to the system, I have only been able to consistently connect with three out of the eight devices in our home. All of the devices "see" the network, they just can't connect. When you try to connect the device seems to go into a feedback loop where you can see it transmitting and receiving information, but nothing happens. A census of the devices is as follows:
1 2007 Mac running Mtn. Lion ver: 10.8.4 (connects, that is what I am writing this on)
2 ipads both running system 6.1.3 (10b329), (one connects, the other doesn't--the one that connects I upgraded the system software yesterday)
2 iPhones, 1 iphone 4s running 6.1.3 (10b329) which connects, 1 iphone 3 (unknown software) which does not connect
2 Windows laptops, 1 running Windows 7, 1 running Windows 8, neither connect
Xbox, doesn't connect
The system that I have is a modem that comes off of a high speed wireless (WiMax type of service) antenna that directly connects to the Airport router which is on the main floor of the house with very good signal strength throughout our home.
I have searched many message boards and tried all of the "wifi tricks" for getting the system to run including:
Disconnecting and rebooting devices in sequence
Renaming network and establishing new passwords
Renewing the DHCP lease
Upgrading OS software to current versions (this computer and one iPad
Can anyone help me with this problem?
Regards,
Garet

Hi there otsegony,
You may find the article below helpful.
iOS and OS X: Recommended settings for Wi-Fi routers and access points
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4199
-Griff W.

New AirPort Extreme Problems

Hello,
I just installed a the new AirPort Extreme connected to wired Ethernet as a Server for USB-Harddisks.
Unfortunatele, it seems to work very unstable. I want to use the connected disks with an iMac G5 and an MacMini Core Duo. Sometimes the Extreme does not appear in the Network list, sometimes it does but disappears after a while.
I got two updates (2007-1, 2007-2) on the Computer where I installed the disc that came with the AirPort Extreme. Is there any further step needed to actually upgrade the box or is it all done while "installing" the update?
2)
As I right now use the box as a file server only, can I disable WLAN somehow? The setup wizzard is not very clear and the former Admin Utility does not work with the new box.
3)
Is there a way to let the connected harddiscs sleep while no activity is going on? How to setup such details?
Thanks for helping,
Frank

The Windows AirPort Utility isn't constantly scanning for you network. Once it sees the network, it keeps it listed until you click the rescan button. If you were to click the rescan button when the network was not seen by your wireless card, I bet it would not show it then either. On the other hand, Windows itself is constant doing background scans. I've noticed with Windows, in general, networks come and go and you get those idiotic bubbles telling you so.

New Airport Extreme only connected with N protocol

I just got a brand new Airport Extreme. I disabled wifi on my verizon fios router, plugged in the ethernet, and went through the Airport's setup. I'm connected on all my devices and the range is so much better, but it doesn't seem like my MBP has connected using AC. Below, I have included some information about my computer and the router. Could anyone advise me on how to connect using AC? Do I need to do anything other than the default setup? I noticed in advanced options on the router, that 5ghz is not enabled by default? Also, I'm sitting about 10 feet from the router with no obstructions.
My Computer:
Model Name: MacBook Pro, Late 2013
Processor Name: Intel Core i7
Processor Speed: 2.3 GHz
My Airport Extreme:
Card Type: AirPort Extreme (0x14E4, 0x134)
Firmware Version: Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (6.30.223.154.65)
Locale: FCC
Country Code: US
Supported PHY Modes: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
My Network:
Network Utility Link Speed: 217 MBit/sec
PHY Mode: 802.11n
Channel: 1
Country Code: US
Network Type: Infrastructure
Security: WPA2 Personal
Signal / Noise: -41 dBm / -92 dBm
Transmit Rate: 156
MCS Index: 21

5ghz wireless is in fact working.. but the Mac is setup to connect to the strongest signal not the fastest.. so you have actually connected to 2.4ghz N wireless..
The way to fix this is simple.. change the wireless name for 5ghz in wireless options of airport utility.. ie.
Make the name short and sweet.. no spaces.. no apostrophe.. just simple.
Mine doesn't show as much because I refuse to buy the AC model..
But you can make sure your country is set correctly.. and all the rest can be left on auto.
Then in the laptop force the connection to AE5ghz or whatever you name it.

Argh! Trying to Replace Linksys with New Airport Extreme...

Been fighting with this for hours...about ready to take the new Airport Extreme back ...Here's the deal:
I currently have a very wired and wireless 2story home professinally set up with 2 Linksys devices as the primary network and a couple previous generation airport expresses as extenders.   Due to video, audio and other systems the primary router for the network/WAN closet out in the garage needs to remain on the primary Linksys (non wifi) router. I want to replace the Linksys Wifi router (see below) that is puposely set up and has worked for several years as a double NAT config with the new Airport Extreme but i have tried duplicatiing the exact configs from the Linksys router and all the various ways you can use the Airport Express in DHCP/NAT and even in Bridge mode and it still wont work! I've never considered Linksys software easier (and definately more flexible and informative) to use than Apple until this experience! Very frustrating.... I'm being very explicit and using the typical Linksys config profiles below so as to hopefully help you translate this into specific configs i can wrangle into the Airport Extreme to make it work like the
Current Primary Network:
Current WAN Router / + 24 Port Switched LAN Network (for wired ethernet access ports used throughout house) > Linksys BEFSX41 + Linksys 24 port Switch locted in a custom built data /video / audio closet in garage
WAN IP: DHCP
LAN IP: 192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Current WiFI Network > Linksys WRT160Nv2 (currently conected to the 24port switch via a hardwired ethernet wall port upstairs in my office)
Internet Connection Type: Static IP
WAN IP: 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
LAN IP: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Per config notes from the network engineer who i worked with to build this network when i built the house
"this allows the 192.168.0.x wifi device to successfully route to the 192.168.1.x wired router (and vice versa)"
My goal is to replace the Linksys WRT160Nv2 with the new Airport Extreme (whose range and ability to reach both upsatirs and outside to the beach is MUCH better) and locate it DOWNSTAIRS and connect it in the same way as the Linksys (via an ethernet port in the living room) to the same switch / router in the data closet.
I have tried to set up the new Airport Extreme to replicate this config several different ways both bridged and not bridged (including telling it to ignore the double NAT warning) with the latest.   I am pretty sure non-bridged is the right way to do it but i seem to lack a config parameter to tell the Airport Extreme to replicate the equivalent of the WRT160Nv2 settings despite trating all the submenues and options on the airport extreme set up / Airport Utility App. Do i have to telnet directly into the Airport Extreme config files to do this natively? Help!
PS - no i cannot / will not put the Airport Extreme in to replace the primary Linksys router in the data closet - there is no way it will fit or that its wifi could penetrate the EMI and insulation of all the other electronics in the data closet out in the garage and get a good connection into the house

The trick on the airport extreme is to change the DHCP .. when you change the DHCP it changes the actual IP of the AE..
So go to the setup and open the dhcp, in the network options and you can select by arrow the first two octets and replace the third.
I just posted info on this in another post..
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5134560?tstart=30
Does this answer your question, as I am a bit unclear otherwise??
I have to say I do not like using double NAT.. it is becoming worse and worse as the amount of material on the internet that requires interactive connection increases.. you block so much by doing this.. double NAT is an issue .. not just ignore the warning.
There is no reason why you need double NAT.. you should have a single flat network. If you need to keep some things isolated from others the correct way to do it is vlan.. but you will need a better router than the old linksys to do it. And possibly a managed switch. Nowadays a managed 24 port gigabit switch is not a bad price at all.

PROBLEM with new Airport Extreme

i just bought the new airport extreme and what was supposed to be a simple setup process has taken longer than 10 hours!
please help!
i have 3 computers.
2 are macs, they will be using wireless. 1 is a PC, which will be wired to the airport extreme.
the airport extreme is connected to a VOIP router, which is then connected to the DSL router.
i have always used my old airport extreme without issues, but because i want to connect the PC as well, i must ditch the airport express in favour for one with LAN ports. hence, the troublesome airport extreme.
it doesn't work.
none of my computers can recognize the new network. (even though i've established one, with passwords and everything)
the router flashes amber - internet works, but not wireless.
the router periodically flashes green - ironically, nothing works then!!!!
please help!!!
EDIT: DIAGRAM
1. WHEN IT WORKED:
INTERNET --> PROVIDER ROUTER --> VOIP ROUTER --> AIRPORT EXPRESS --> MAC 1, MAC 2 (WIRELESS)
2. WHEN IT DOESN'T WORK:
INTERNET --> PROVIDER ROUTER --> VOIP ROUTER --> AIRPORT EXTREME --> MAC 1, MAC 2 (WIRELESS), PC (WIRED)

It appears to me that you may possibly have sever conflict issues as well as maybe not having the Network confiqured correctly.
I have a 3 story OLD VICTORIAN and I am using the Old Airport Extreme Base and have expierianced NO PROBLEMS at all.
If I may suggest a different approach.
Try to start from scratch.
SHUT EVERYTHING OFF.
Run an ethernet cable from your Internet Service Providers MODEM to the WAN port of the Airport Extreme Base
Set it up DHCP and you want the Airport to distribute IP's
use the Airport setup assistant and Airport Admin Utility.
Using 2 Routers in the mix unless you have ony one the main to distribute the IP's, IF you have 2 Routers and they are both set up to distribute the IP's there is your problem.
The New Airport Extreme Base is far better then the older model and you shouldn't need another router in the mix at all to get the coverage of your entire house.
Take the Netgear clear out and use the Airport Extreme and the Expresses as you had them before. There is a very good possibility that you will need to do evrything one at a time and step by step.
Do not just plug everything in, and turn everything on and expect it to work. Do everthing step by step with all security disabled to begin with.
Be sure when you do your system reset that you start by powering up the MODEM 1st and wait for it to acquire the signal before you power up the Airport Extreme and again you must wait for it to acquire the signal. You can use the LAN Ports for anyyhing you need HARDWIRED. If you don't wait and do things in the proper order you will have problems, I can't stress enough that it must be done in the proper sequence. Have a look at the Paperwork of either the Netgear's Yellow Phamplet or the Booklet that came with the Extreme to bear out what I explained on the sequence.
Don

Is a Happy Marriage Possible? New Airport Extreme & ADSL Modem/Router

Is a Happy Marriage Possible? New Airport Extreme & ADSL Modem/Router
1. I’m writing from a rural town in Southern Nepal, very close to India. I’m planning to create a new WI-FI network at a small monastery here. Ideally, we will have two parallel wireless networks: the first network produced by an ADSL router/modem and a second network produced by another router in “repeater” mode.
2. Earlier, someone suggested that, when I post a question, I should provide as many details as possible about the situation here. Forgive me if there is “too much information”. I have to make a trip to the US to buy new networking equipment, so I very much want to get this right. Once I return here, I’ll be pretty much stuck with whatever I get in the US.
3. The future routers will live next to each other in an office and could be linked by a cable (if this is the best route to go). We do not wish to “expand” the network (in the sense of making a larger WI-FI network), but rather wish to simply have two networks, hence one ADSL router/modem and one router with the “repeater” function (out-of-the-box without any jerry rigging). Both WI-FI signals need to travel approximately 100 (largely unobstructed) feet.
4. If my dreams come true, the second router would be an Apple Airport Extreme (AX). An Apple router would be ideal because my experience with Apple routers is happy: they are easy to set up, reliable, and secure. Moreover, we use Apple computers and iOS devices here (and the new AX has the “ac” thing which will be preferable as we replace old machines with new ones).
5. Yet, from reading posts and having my prior questions answered on this website, it may be that with an ADSL modem/router, all the ease and happiness of the Apple ecosystem is lost: while Apple routers seem to connect with each other easily, problems appear to arise when users try to inter-marry our non-Apple products with Apples.
6. Our current, super-crappy 2wire 2701hg-t (ADSL modem/router) covers the 100-foot distance without a problem when it is working and there is Ethernet flowing to us. Frequently, our connection is very bad, and I may be unfairly judging the 2wire 2701hg-t. But, based on user reviews on the America Amazon.com, the 2wire 2701hg-t is pretty terrible: first it is simply old and second, among other problems, it seems to have a poor quality power supply unit. I do observe that it frequently seems to be recycling from scratch as if it had turned off and restarted. In any case, we are replacing it since it may be about 4 or 5 years old.
7. In previous posts on this forum, “LaPastenague” responded to some of my earlier questions about AX and ADSL. Among other things, he pointed out that (1) line-attenuation may be contributing to our poor connection and (2) we must choose a modem/router that is suitable for “long lines.” I’ve looked at our current modem/router statistics page; however, there are no statistics for line-attenuation or noise. (As you will see below, my strategy is to get the “better” modem/router that is suitable for long lines.)
8. Concerning our ADSL service, these are the facts I’ve gleaned from looking at the current router’s configuration pages:
Connection Type: PPPoE
Currently, the router is configured to use WPA-PSK security.
Connection Speed: Incoming: 1024 kbps & Outgoing: 509 kbps
(The following information may be unimportant at this time.)
Broadband Link Diagnostics:
DSL Synchronization: UP
G.DMT Signal: UP
PVC Connection: UP
PPPoE Service: UP
PPP Authentication: UP
IP Connection: UP
DNS Communication: UP
9. The ISP (Nepal Telecom) doesn’t supply a modem/router; however, they do have a list of (at times ancient) hardware and hardware vendors:
http://www.ntc.net.np/internet/adsl/adsl_vendersConf.php
10. Concerning what equipment is available here, what I have observed is that generally the ADSL modem/routers for sale locally, and in the far-away capital Kathmandu, and in nearby India are often also available in the United States, but they are the cheaper, older models. I will have to buy the new equipment in the US this year. At a different institution nearby, they are using the TP-Link modem/router td-w89016 which they purchased locally, I believe.
11. Based in part on LaPastenague’s earlier advice, I want to buy the TP-LINK TD-W8980 N600 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit ADSL2+ Modem Router (2.4GHz 300Mbps+5Ghz 300Mbps, IPv6 Compatible). This appears to be the most popular ADSL device on Amazon now.
Will this modem/router work EASILY with the Airport Extreme in the manner I’ve described? That is, connecting the two with a cable and creating two WI-FI networks.
12. Also, is it generally correct that the best way to connect them is with an Ethernet cable: https://discussions.apple.com/message/23759755#23759755
13. In fact, does connecting them with a cable help alleviate some of the problems that can occur between the Apple device and the ADSL modem/router?
14. If this will work, what “mode” will the AX device be in (again, in order to have two separate networks with separate passwords)? I have heard of the “repeater”, “roaming” , and “bridge” modes.
15. Are there two levels of passwords which need to be considered? Of course, there is the network and network passwords which we create here and which will be different. But, does the Apple also have to have the ISP password like the principle ADSL modem/router?
16. To set this up, what information do I need from the ISP (e.g., passwords, IPs…)?
I think there are a lot of good reasons to use an AX router. Of course, if it is just going to be very cumbersome then, we would be loosing one of the best parts of using Apple products. So, whoever feels knowledgeable enough to reply to this post, please be sincere if you think it is better to avoid the Apple. Apple can rest assured that I will buy other things from them!
In that case, I’d likely buy a second TP-Link device to create a second network:
TL-Wa801NP [AP Mode Multi-SSID Mode AP Client Mode Repeater Mode (WDS / Universal) AP+ Bridge mode (point-to-point / point to Multi-point)].
Thank you in advance. Long live Apple!
Message was edited by: Jess1911

I am not sure if there are different interfaces but my 2wire does an excellent job with line info.
I get into this from browser.. using main IP.. in my case 10.0.0.138/MDC
In your case it should be whatever the IP of the 2wire is, followed by /mdc
Give it a try.
As you can see it shows vendor and loads of info about the line.
I rate it the best domestic modem for line info.
A good modem actually albeit a lousy router.
MDC is the diagnostics and Management Console.
3. The future routers will live next to each other in an office and could be linked by a cable (if this is the best route to go). We do not wish to “expand” the network (in the sense of making a larger WI-FI network), but rather wish to simply have two networks, hence one ADSL router/modem and one router with the “repeater” function (out-of-the-box without any jerry rigging). Both WI-FI signals need to travel approximately 100 (largely unobstructed) feet.
You are not repeating.. you are simply setting up two routers which are interconnected, so one is dependent on the other.. ie one is your adsl modem router and that will take the main router function. Your second router is really not working as a router, but as wireless access point (and switch if you plug things in).
That is perfectly fine. You are not roaming in this case since both routers are running different wireless names and networks.. but they are actually using same IP range.. all devices are on the one IP network with two different wireless access points.
4. If my dreams come true, the second router would be an Apple Airport Extreme (AX).
Apple router is fine for this. Easy to configure out of the box.
5. Yet, from reading posts and having my prior questions answered on this website, it may be that with an ADSL modem/router, all the ease and happiness of the Apple ecosystem is lost: while Apple routers seem to connect with each other easily, problems appear to arise when users try to inter-marry our non-Apple products with Apples.
The problem arises when you try and interconnect using wireless extend or repeater.. you are not using wireless to extend, you are using ethernet. Wired has no issues.
11. Based in part on LaPastenague’s earlier advice, I want to buy the TP-LINK TD-W8980 N600 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit ADSL2+ Modem Router (2.4GHz 300Mbps+5Ghz 300Mbps, IPv6 Compatible). This appears to be the most popular ADSL device on Amazon now.
Will this modem/router work EASILY with the Airport Extreme in the manner I’ve described? That is, connecting the two with a cable and creating two WI-FI networks.
It is a good choice.. It should be fine considering how poor your line is.. this modem is proving to have a couple of bugs.. it does not handle torrents well but I would suggest your system is not being used for that purpose. It has some port forwarding issues. Again you are probably not going to overload it.
12. Also, is it generally correct that the best way to connect them is with an Ethernet cable: https://discussions.apple.com/message/23759755#23759755
Absolutely best.. only decent method.
14. If this will work, what “mode” will the AX device be in (again, in order to have two separate networks with separate passwords)? I have heard of the “repeater”, “roaming” , and “bridge” modes.
Bridge. Although if it gives issues there is another method, although rather complex to setup.. not something to worry about now.
15. Are there two levels of passwords which need to be considered? Of course, there is the network and network passwords which we create here and which will be different. But, does the Apple also have to have the ISP password like the principle ADSL modem/router?
Only the adsl modem has the ISP authentication.. it is the box that does the link. The TC just piggy backs.
The passwords on the TC are for its Admin, wireless and disk access.
16. To set this up, what information do I need from the ISP (e.g., passwords, IPs…)?
For ADSL you must have the PPPoE authentication username and password.
So, whoever feels knowledgeable enough to reply to this post, please be sincere if you think it is better to avoid the Apple.
hmmm.. I am biased because I see the issues not all the good stories..
The latest airport and Time Capsule seem to have a few pretty severe bugs.. if they happen to hit you, they are extremely hard to fix if you are in the middle of Nepal. And Apple service centre is a long long way away.
I cannot answer your question from the point of view of a person on the ground in remote area. If the economics of the purchase works for you, great. Go for it.
In terms of wireless coverage.. the Asus AC models or Netgear R7000 kill the Apple. Sorry but it is just fact.
See reviews here.
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/router-charts/bar/113-5-ghz-dn-c
That is average.. if you look at the apple router in the worst location by changing the filters, it comes out worse again.
I cannot post the URL to our local forum here.. (apple doesn't allow it). But in testing with apple clients the asus still beat Apple router soundly.
Pure wireless range is not the only consideration.. but in a mixed environment and since the wireless on the 8980N is not too bad.. then buy Apple router for apple client devices makes good sense.
Maybe the older Gen5.. or two of them.. would do a better job.. with a bit more tested and known hardware.
One thing you do need to check.
Routers from every other brand allow you to select country. Any country from anywhere in the world. Apple routers do not.
If you buy an airport in North America it is coded to North America and offers just a few countries.. USA, Canada I suppose.. what else is North America??
You cannot change it to Nepal.
To get the one for Nepal you must buy the model that covers, South Asia I guess.. I am not sure which it is.
See what the license information is for wifi in Nepal as it might be very different to US and therefore illegal for you to run it in Nepal.
If only the whole world would just bow to America.. we could all follow the FCC regs..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels
This only applies to the Apple.. the TP-Link etc allows you to choose Nepal or correct country regulations for wifi.
Buying modems has one tricky bit.. that the actual adsl ATM channel is different in different parts of the world. No modem is usually impossible to setup but some can be difficult if it is pre-configured for US.. this is easy to overcome generally as you can download a firmware for another locality, so you can have local settings.

New Airport Extreme (6th Gen) Dropping Connection from Time to Time.

Problem:
6th Generation Airport Extreme drops connection intermittently at random times.
Set Up:
6th Generation Airport Extreme (main router - no hard drive/not a time capsule) located center of house on the main floor. 2 Range extenders each approximately 30+ feet away from main router. First range extender (Airport Express - newest generation) located on the third floor parallel to main. Second range extender (Airport Express - new generation) is located at the end of the kitchen (main floor).
Main Router is connected straight from a Motorolla Surfboard modem on a foyer table at the center of the house.
Range extenders connected to Main Router wirelessly and at wall outlett height.
Previous Setup:
Same setup as above but, with the 5th Generation Airport Extreme instead of the 6th Generation.
Firmware:
All current versions.
Devices:
1 SONY VAIO VGN-FW490J
HP Notebook G60
Several WEMO outlets
1 iPad Mini
1 iPad 2
1 iPhone 5
1 Motorolla RAZR MAXX
Macbook Pro
iMac (wired from main router on foyer table)
Note: All of these routers/range extenders/modem/computers are plugged into surge protected outlets.
Notes:
With the new Airport Extreme my family and I have been experiencing intermettent connection drops. The amber light on the main router turns on and within a few minutes turns green and connection resumes again. This has been happening for a few days now ever since I purchased the new router. This has not happened before with the 5th generation router, which I donated to our church.
I have not exchanged the product yet. I will be initiating a Complete Power Recycle after some suggested solutions in a bit. I have contacted my Internet Service Provider (Comcast) for a line check and found no problems.
Has anyone found any solutions to resolve the intermittent connection drops? Is reverting to the previous firmware going to solve this?
I would like some insights before trying to do all this. Thank you all for your time.
P.s.
I've done a detailed post since posts like these is frequently asked questions on set-up, devices, connections, etc:

Update:
Before I went to exchange my 6th Gen Extreme, I ran through all possible solutions from complete power recycle to no devices connected. I even went out of my way to my cousin's house to test it out. The same problem still kept coming.
I was able to exchange my 6th Gen Airprt Extreme with another 6th Gen Extreme the other day. I set it up how the instructions told me and within an hour it did the exact same problem as the previous 6th Gen Extreme. I gave up and decided to get the ASUS RT-AC66R (ASUS RT-AC66U is the same, just the 'R' is Best Buy's model.)
The ASUS router is just as great as the 6th Gen Router. You can actually get it down to $180 by price matching to Amazon. The ASUS router has 3 antennas that you can adjust according to where the signal is used more. I pointed them more towards the backyard, upstairs, and the living room. The range is by far better than the Extreme because of this. I was able to drive down a good block (3-4 houses down) and still connected to my router. Also it has 2 USB ports which was fantastic for me so I can plug in my external hard drive and a non-wireless printer. It has many more features that I really liked that I didn't even know was possible. The router utility interface is a bit confusing at first but, it's pretty easy once you get the hang of it.
Some features that I liked with the ASUS was the ability to have multiple guest network with time limits. 3 for 2.4gHz and 3 for 5gHz. I think that Airport guest accounts are only allowed 2.4gHz but not a 5gHz. Though I only needed 1 for each but, I can see this working well for businesses.
Another feature is traffic manager. I am able to set specific bandwith for different types of use such as, high priority 80%-100% bandwith for gaming, medium priority badwith 70%-90% for HD media streaming/data transfer, and 50%-80% low bandwith for casual web surfing. It also has it's own "beamforming" so that data isn't free roamed.
Lastly it has AiCloud sync which is basically like having a hard drive into your router but, much like having a Dropbox at the same time.
More or less I think I'll stick with the ASUS router rather than going with the new Airport Extreme. I think that it's more on firmware issue than it is hardware. If you are not willing to switch to another brand and want to keep staying with Apple, I recommend going back to the 5th generation until a new firmware or rebuilt 6th gen extreme is out.
I have not found any problem with the ASUS router and no intermittent connectivity issues.
Now I am not trying to make you buy the ASUS router. I'm merely expressing how great the product is.
I do have 60 days from Best Buy return policy to try out the ASUS (and report of any malfuntions) and if within that time a new firmware is out for the Extreme. I highly doubt I'll go back to the extreme though.
Hope this helped!!

Can't see HD on new Airport Extreme with TimeMachine software

Just bought a new Airport Extreme for which set up was easy -- I plugged it into my router via ethernet, ran the configuration and was good to go.
The AirPort Extreme is plugged in and appears to be set up correctly as the green light is glowing on the front and I can see it in the Airport Utility as well as surf the 'net and send and receive emails, etc.
I plugged a new 1TB FW800/USB drive into the Airport Extreme (via USB) after formating it on my MBP and verifying the two 500 GB partitions I created; one partition for the MBP and the other new Mini I just installed in my studio.
I can sign in succesfully into the Airport, but when I select the Tab for Disks, neither partitions nor the disk itself are showing up -- without which I can not designate the partitions to each Mac.
I have rebooted the AirPort and re-verified the 1TB FW800/USB drive ...
The goal is to use the Time Machine software for backing up each Mac to its respective partition wirelessly.
Any ideas?
Thank you ....

TM over network to FW shared drive is an interesting work around.
There are some tricks to this kind of setup.
See http://code.stephenmorley.org/articles/time-machine-on-a-network-drive/
Make sure BTW the drive is partitioned GUID .. if it was a windows drive at some point it may still have MBR.. and that will not work... in some cases.
It is better to connect AFP than SMB.. but I presume you are doing that although you don't state it.
I would try using ethernet to do the setup as well.. not just wireless.
Wireless should be in the same vlan as the ethernet.. but I have run into troubles recently where things weren't what they appeared.

Unable to connect new airport extreme to iMAC or MacBook Pro

This must have been covered but I am unable to find a thread addressing my problem. I have just purchased a new Airport Extreme Base Station (AEBS). I updated all of my software and have tried to configure the AEBS for both my laptop and iMAC. I connect to the internet (IN) using a cable modem (Motorola SB 5101). Using the ethernet cable I can connect to the IN with both computers. I have configured the AEBS and the "light" comes up green.
Using the "diagnostics" program associated with Safari on my laptop (OS 10.5.6), all but the last 2 lights come up green. I do not know how to overcome this problem.
On the iMAC (OS 10.4.11) I get the message "Airport not configured". When I go to the Airport Utility App and scan, it tells me that a wireless device is not detected, even though the unit is adjacent to the computer. It does have an early wireless card (0x14E4,0x89) Firmware (Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0).
I hope there are better directions somewhere than what came with the unit.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Bob Timmons, thanks for the response... I will respond to your questions..
1) Yes, I can connect to the internet by attaching the single ethernet type cable from the modem to each computer in-turn.
2) Yes, when I connect the ethernet cable from the modem to the airport base station, I get a green light. (circle icon)
3) I do not (as yet) have a spare ethernet cable to try the connection from the AEBS to either computer.
Making these connections work is a little like magic to me. I have an airport express at work that I successfully connected, but when it happened I was not sure what I did.
I get a little confused because there is the Airport programming software, the Diagnostics software that pops up from Safari, and Network software in Preferences. I am not sure which one is the main one to use.
In addition, I try to Connect, wirelessly in several places. Sometimes in an airport where an "automatic" IP address seems to be assigned and sometimes at work where we use static IP addresses.
I need a map...;o)

Questions about setting up an new AirPort Extreme

Greetings,
Here is some background information. Currently my wife and I have two PC running XP and are networked with a Linksys Wireless G 2.4 GHz router. On the network we share files and a printer.
For Christmas I received a MacBook Pro. Yeah! (My last Mac was a PowerMac G3) When I set up my MacBook Pro it connected to our current network and I can use the printer. The MacBook Pro set everything up effortlessly.
Here is my new situation. My wife liked my MacBook Pro so much that she has ordered an iMac. Also, we have received a new AirPort Extreme. We are going to switch to all Macs for our computers.
We want to replace the Linksys with the AirPort Extreme and have it network our printer (HP OfficeJet Pro 7580 all-in-one, the iMac and my MacBook Pro.
I have been studying the Setup Guide to connect the AirPort Extreme.
Finally here is my Question.
The set up guide instructs to plug in the printer with the USB port into the AirPort Extreme. It is not wireless. However, the guide does not specify if the printer needs to be powered on when it is plugged into the AirPort Extreme's USB port.
Should all of the devices I want plugged into the AirPort Extreme be powered on before I plug them in?
The end result will be having the AirPort Extreme network our two Macs, the HP printer and our two PC until we can make a complete change over to all Macs.
Thanks in advance for your help and support,
Leigh

Sounds like you got it down, how to do it...
The answer to your question can be simple or somewhat complex. So I'll make it really, really simple.
You can plug the printer in with it on or off, but it'll work better and more consistently if you first power-on the printer, let it go through it's own self test then plug it into the Airport Extreme.

Does new Airport Extreme slow down when used with Airport Express?

Maybe this is self-evident.
If get the new Airport extreme and use an old airport express to extend it, will signal slow down to the old speed?
Does the AE have a greater range? Perhaps I don't need the Express to extend.
I live in NYC and there are so many signals in the air. It seems like having the additional airport helps keep me connected.
Thanks.

The airport express is g technology not n technology, so it will be at least as slow as your old network. Also, I'm not sure but I think the the range will be a bit longer than with the old g system, but does not have the full potential of an n system.
I've set up my new system but none of my machines are n capable. I extended the system using my old expresses. The speed of the system is no greater than what it was before the n.
I bought the system to upgrade my technology because everytime my Applecare runs out, I get a new computer which isn't too far down the road. I've purchased an Apple TV which will also work better with the n technology when I upgrade. It's either buy it now or buy it later. I'm also hoping that some third party like Belkin will develop a PCIX card to provide n technology to those of my computers that aren't currently n capable. I'm sure there is many like me out there.

Installed my new Airport extreme and try to link it to airport express but the wifi still very slow

I installed my new Airport extreme today and try to link it to my airport express to expend my wifi coverage to my second floor but the wifi si very slow on second florr not better then without express? what can I do??

Hi Francois
Any wired connection or WiFi network extension (using your AirPort Express) with your second floor will make your network signal stronger but not necessarly faster. If your WiFi signal is so poor that internet connection keeps dropping, it will make a speed difference. Otherwise the only difference you'll notice is that the range of the wireless network has increased.
You say "wifi is very slow on the second floor". Do you mean that the internet is slow? Is it very fast on the first floor?
Try checking your internet connection speed on a laptop on each floor:
speedtest.net
and press "begin test recommended server".
The download speed should approximate your ISP contracted speed. Upload speed will be a fraction of this. Wifi will be slower but unless you have a super-fast internet connection, you probably shouldn't notice it.
Peter

Network Key on New Airport Extreme

I am setting up my Brother Printer for wireless & I need the Network Key for my new Airport Extreme. One discussion thread said to goto manual setupto find it, but I can't find how to do that on this new Extreme.

The network "key" is a 64 character code of random letters and numbers. I doubt that this is what you are looking for.....or that the printer software would have the ability to even input a 64 character "key".
Before you waste your time messing around with a long 64 character code......it might be a better to plan to first test and check and make sure that the printer can connect to your network using no security.
Obviously, if the printer cannot connect using no security.....it will never connect with security enabled.
In other words, if the printer will not connect to the wireless network when security is not enabled, then you have a different issue in play here, not related to the "key" at all.
Does that make sense?
If you find that the printer cannot connect using no security during your "test", I have some ideas for you to try to get first get things working with no security......then we will enable security and get things working that way.

Change to channel 149 on NEW Airport Extreme 802.11ac on U.K device?

My new Airport Extreme has a very poor range and see that devices sold within the U.S.A have the ability to increase the power of the device by selecting an higher channel on the 5GHz frequency. I'm not suffering interference and my original non branded modem/router supplied by my ISP is outperforming the Airport Extreme. Apple technical support has not diagnosed any problem with the device and believe it is working normally.
Is there anyway of changing the frequency?

What channel is 5ghz working on??
I doubt a higher channel will help.. the extra power output at the higher frequency does not even make up for the lower range.. ie range is better using 36-40 than higher channels even with the power boost.
At least that is my experience .. on Gen4 TC.
AFAIK channel changes are not sticking.. that is a fault in the airport utility.. have you tried from iOS device or using 5.6.1 utility on windows.. which apparently can still access some of the deeper menu items.. although the changes may simply not stick.
US and UK might also have different regs for power output.. I would think it would set output as high as regulations permit..

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