New Airport Extreme N wireless network setup questions (WDS, D-Link)

I have finally been able to set up my Airport Extreme N network after numerous attempts over the last few weeks. I was getting a very weak signal in front of the house where my wife's G4 is connected wireless to an old Airport card and where all the systems (XBOX 360; Wii and PS3) are also wirelessly hitting the network.
The current configuration is as follows: In the office in the back of the house I have an Airport Extreme N basestation connected to the cable modem and have three workstations (One Mac and two PCs) wired to it. I set up a WDS network, so I set up the Airport Expresses as remotes. In the living room I have another Airport Extreme N basestation (as a remote as well) that is hooking up to the XBOX 360, Wii and PS3. I have enabled WEP security (not effecting the XBOX 360 since it is now "wired"). Here is the weird thing - I have a PC laptop with a D-Link Xtreme N card ( DWA-652) that cannot connect to the network. I enter the WEP password but it does not connect. Am I missing something on the basestation setup? Do I need to add the MAC address of the card anywhere. When I use the laptop's built in wireless it connects with no problem. By creating a WDS network did I disable the n functionality of the base station(s)? I am a lttle condused.
Also, prior to going to an all Apple wireless network setup, I bought the D-Link Xtreme N Gigabit Router (DIR-655). I was regretfully about to return it to Best Buy but I had an idea which may or may not work. I know that the D-Link does not support WDS but if I was to set it up as the main router and added the "main" Airport basestation as a wired bridge could I maintain the WDS network? The reason I ask this is because I would love to keep the gigabit for the wired machines in the office. Also, I am wondering if the D-Link notebook card is incompatible with the Airport network.
All I know is that I have spent alot of money and sleepless nights just trying to set this network up but thankfully Best Buy has a thirty day return policy so I will return what I can't use.
I appreciate any help and advice anyone can give me.
Thanks.
V
MacPro Mac OS X (10.4.9)
MacPro Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Hello!
I have noticed that some manufacturers (Linksys and possibly D-LINK) only accept upper-case WEP keys only.
This drove me nuts when trying to integrate a Linksys PC PCMCIA card into my old "g" network.
As far as using WEP, it's bad and broken; but I understand that your choice of security is limited to the devices that you are trying to network.
For what it's worth, I have my network set up with the AEBS 'n' connected to my Cable Modem, with one of the ports going to a gigabit switch for my wired network. I then have two AirTunes set up as WDS extensions for music & Internet delivery to two separate areas. The AEBS 'n" serves up DHCP and routing for the entire network.
It works quite well; I get 54 mbits/sec for the two WDS AirTunes, and 145 mbits/sec to one of my ATV's. My gigabit wired machines see data rates of 15-27 MBytes/sec (depending on the type of transfer).
Good luck!

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Good Morning,
I just received my new MacBook Pro yesterday along with the Airport Extreme Base Station. I was tying to setup the airport extreme but have had no luck. I want to make sure I'm connecting things correctly - make sure I'm not doing something stupid.
I have a cable modem and I previously had a Netgear router. The connection from the cable modem that had previously been connected to my Netgear router - I disconnected it and connected it to the Airport extreme base station instead. And then I plugged it in. Is that all the connecting that I need to do? I get the flashing amber light.
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I want to make sure I'm connecting things correctly
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I have a cable modem and I previously had a Netgear router. The connection from the cable modem that had previously been connected to my Netgear router - I disconnected it and connected it to the Airport extreme base station instead. And then I plugged it in. Is that all the connecting that I need to do? I get the flashing amber light.
Since you changed your network configuration, you should perform a complete power recycle of your network components to allow enough time for them to "synchronize."
Modem/Router Power ReCycling
- Power-off the Cable modem, AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn), & computer(s). (Wait at least 30 minutes. If possible, leave the modem off overnight.)
- Power-on the Cable modem; Wait at least 30 minutes.
- Power-on the AEBSn; Wait at least 5 minutes.
- Power-on the computer(s)
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I have noticed that some manufacturers (Linksys and possibly D-LINK) only accept upper-case WEP keys only.
This drove me nuts when trying to integrate a Linksys PC PCMCIA card into my old "g" network.
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Message was edited by: Conal Ho

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Greetings,
Here is some background information. Currently my wife and I have two PC running XP and are networked with a Linksys Wireless G 2.4 GHz router. On the network we share files and a printer.
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The answer to your question can be simple or somewhat complex. So I'll make it really, really simple.
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Im a total NOOB. Please excuse my poor knowledge of Routers and the like.
I really need some advice from the MAC community to steer me in the right direction. I want to give as much information as possible in order for you folks to help me down the right path.
CURRENT SET UP:
(3) Apple Computers in 3 bedrooms. (1) iMac Core2 Duo, (1) iMac Core Duo, (1) eMac G4. All have built in wireless cards from Apple.
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(1) Should I eveen bother with the New Airport Extreme Base Station or just leave everything as it is?
(2) Is there ANY benefit to adding a Airport Extreme Base Station? I'm I missing out on anything?
Please be honest. Anything wrong with my current setup?
Thanks.

I don't think there's anything wrong at all with what you've done. The bottom line is do YOU find any faults or disadvantages to your set up? As far as the new Extreme, things would just be alot faster (for those 802.11n enabled computers only, though)
Im a total NOOB. Please excuse my poor knowledge of
Routers and the like.
I really need some advice from the MAC community to
steer me in the right direction. I want to give as
much information as possible in order for you folks
to help me down the right path.
CURRENT SET UP:
(3) Apple Computers in 3 bedrooms. (1) iMac Core2
Duo, (1) iMac Core Duo, (1) eMac G4. All have built
in wireless cards from Apple.
Broadband Cable Internet from Comcast. Cable comes
from wall directly to a Motorolla Surf Board Wireless
SBG900. The Wireless Motorolla Cable Modem sits on
the floor in the corner of one bedroom. All 3
computers work perfect. Never drop a signal. All
very fast connections. No Internet or sharing issues
at all. I also decided to add the "Plug in" Airport
Express. This has an HP Color Laser Jet Printer
pluged into it via USB. All 3 computers print and
share seamlessly to it. Set up is a breeze. No
issues what so ever with anything.
QUESTIONS:
(1) Should I eveen bother with the New Airport
Extreme Base Station or just leave everything as it
is?
(2) Is there ANY benefit to adding a Airport Extreme
Base Station? I'm I missing out on anything?
Please be honest. Anything wrong with my current
setup?
Thanks.

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Hello VL Crew. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
Does the Airport Utility only work via wireless?
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my question is this, if i add the new airport extreme to the existing airport network, will i see the benefit of the 802.11n connection, or should the extreme be set up as the primary base station?

... will i see slower transfer speeds (than if it was connected to the extreme) to / from the NAS when accessing it wirelessly from elsewhere in the house?
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