New arch install, scanner problems still persist.

Alright now officially under arch after spending a night configuring it and such (still dual booting antergos as a fallback though just in case things go weird) but alas my scanner issue that I have with my HP ENVY 4500 scanner/printer still persists.
After browsing though documentation and reading up I am still unable to solve this rather strange issue with my scanner.
I went here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/sane
I installed sane, xsane xsane-gimp (as I use gimp for image editing) and I got butkis
I rebooted my computer, poked and prodded HPLIP-gui and once more HPLIP toolbox recognises my scanner while the stand alone software (commandline or otherwise) does not.
If it helps here is my kernel info and what desktop I am using
Kernel 3.15.8-1 (64bit) with XFCE
Once more I am stumped by this issue, even with the wiki in play this issue still befuddles me.
Everything else seems to be working here except for my scanner.
I did my homework here folks so its not like I did anything wrong, just hit this roadblock in my so far so good install of arch.

jasonwryan wrote:
Congrats on installing Arch.
Now, if you need assistance, you'll have to provide meaningful error or log messages: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57855
Err thats the thing I am not getting error messages that can give me clues, just generic "device not found" or "no devices found" messages so some help that is
If it gave me more info I would have shared it, but no even command line gives no real complex feedback other then "no devices found"
So mystery persists regardless, even with logs in play nothing is coming up that will be of any use as in my logs its just more of the same.
I am just stuck without no other clues on to why hplip-gui works but nothing else does
Its not a firewall or permissions error I checked that bit
Its not like this device is incompatible, works without a hitch in Ubuntu and its sane is the same as the one in arch.
Maybe I will try to work something out here using Ubuntu as a guide, I just pop it onto my other drive (the one I am using antergos on, that can be replaced) and maybe I can see where the issue lays by working this out backwards.
Good thing I have two drives so I can multi distro my hearts content
Last edited by MadmanRB (2014-08-11 21:05:36)

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