New bios 655 max

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=403&NAME=MS-6730
1.1 Update date 2003-2-11
Update Description -Update SATA bootROM
-Add AGP Fast Write in the BIOS setup

What video card are you using? If it's an ATI, install the Control Panel and disable AGP Fastwrites there (that's how I did it).
I have had little luck with the AGPUtil. One thing that could be causing your problems is a little known issue with the SiS AGP Drivers. Version 1.12 is the ONLY version that will work with the 655 chipset. Any newer versions will automatically install that driver (unless you manually installed v1.14 or 1.15, for example, which would cause serious problems--it did for me). AGPUtil won't even load in my case. If you did in fact manually load a newer version that 1.12, my suggestion would be to do a system restore and using the 'setup' program. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, but it continued to have problems until I used System Restore. That or reinstall XP.
Hopefully you have an ATI card, which provides a nice little option for setting AGP rates and fastwrites.
Good luck.

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Hello
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Technical Manager
MSI Distributor
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buenas wonkanoby
thanks for your reply. finally i made it work: its this freaky kingmax-ram....
i exchanged two of the kingmax modules by veritech modules and everything works fine now. instead i got problems now with an MSI 648Max-L Board from which i took the veritech memory......
so if anyone else reads this:
[size=15]IF YOU GOT AN MSI 655 MAX OR 648 MAX AND YOU WANNA USE TWO OR MORE MEMORY MODULES GET VERITECH DDR333/512MB (OR WHATEVER) BUT DEFINITELY NOT CRAPPY KINGMAX DDR333/512MB!!! [/SIZE]
cheers and enjoy :D

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and i think i am using the 1T i cant change it or anything. no where to change anyway.
THANX
AMD64 2800 NewCastle SH7-C0 1.8 @ 2.03 270FSB 1.63V
MSI K8N Nero Platinum 1.56Beta
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i will have furture questions just need to get answers on those first.\
Hope someone could help

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Originally posted by pinochio
1)Turn Fastwrites OFF
2)2.85 Volts won't hurt your Ram.(i wish MSI could give us MORE!!)
3)TRef depends on your Ram.I found mine to work best with 200 15.6us
but maybe yours doesn't.Experiment and see.
4)In the BIOS the TRef 1x,2x,3x,4x numers represent the "us" that you see above.
1x=15.6us , 2x=7.8us , 3x=3.9us, 4x=1.95us.The "cycles" you can play with.
5)Don't trust A64 for the Tref value.I have mine set to 15.6 and A64 Tweaker says 1.95
6)Use Rmma "Memory Analyzer" to see and even change your timings.
Went through the bios TREF , i have non 3X options.
This is what i found :
1:1552 100mhz 15,6us
1:2064 133mhz 15,6us
1:2592 166mhz 15,6us
1:3120 200mhz 15,6us
1:3632 100mhz 7,8us
1:4128 133mhz 7,8us
1:4672 166mhz 7,8us
2:1552 100mhz 3,9us
2:2064 133mhz 3,9us
2:2592 166mhz 3,9us
2:3120 200mhz 3,9us
2:3632 100mhz 1,95us
2:4128 133mhz 1,95us
2:4672 166mhz 1,95us
4:1552 100mhz 15,6us
4:2064 not tested ,assumed 133mhz 15,6us
4:2592 not tested ,assumed 133mhz 15,6us
4:3120 200mhz 15,6us
4:3632 not tested
4:4128 not tested
4:4672 not tested
128 cycles 200mhz 1,95us
200mhz 7,8us is missing in my system and setting it with A64Tweaker
cause windows to freeze .
You will find documentation of 1x , 2x and 4x (1K refresh,2K refresh and 4K refresh) here:
http://www.oempcworld.com/support/RAM_Technical_Perspective.htm

655 Max FISR SATA & Video Card Troubles

Hi all
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My motherboard hated the Crucial Technology PC3200 512Mb memory (CT6464Z40B) I put in DIMM 1 and the MSI 5600U VTD-128 video card. Anyway suffice to say I solved the problems easily enough. I swapped the memory and the video card over with that in my MSI 645e Max U (the video card was a Connect 3D Radeon 7500 for info). The 645 runs beautifully with no problems whatsoever, unlike the 655!
I've now upgraded the Radeon 7500 to a Sapphire Radeon 9600XT which works really well. So if you are having problems with a card based on an nVidia chipset (which Win XP keeps saying has drivers that don't pass the compatability test) I'd try the ATI cards.
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The second problem is a bit more serious, one of my Raptor drives keeps dropping off line when I run either the error checking or defragmentation tools in Windows. The computer shuts down and re-boots only to tell me there's been a problem (a drive has failed or disconnected) before asking for a boot floppy. Fortunately, if I delete then redefine the array I get the system up and running again, but it is annoying! Problem is, with the 655's reputation, I don't know whether I have a motherboard, cable or drive problem. A limited trouble shoot by swapping over the drives has ascertained which one the system alleges to keep failing, but I'm now stuck, short of trying new cables, or buying a SATA RAID controller and sticking it in the 645 to see if it is one of the drives that's at fault.
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Apologies for being away for a while, been busy with work & sorting out a pair of bad Raptors drives! Thanks for the replies from Hellwolf_36 and simps.
I can now report that after I'd worked out that I'd got not one but two damaged 74Gb WD Raptor drive (one had a lot of bad sectors and the other would take over two hours instead of 20 minutes to format which is why I was getting that stop message) and I had replaced the memory with one stick of the Kingston KV400X64C25/512 DDR, my 655 is now working quite well. I haven't got round to checking if I've got the latest C-media driver installed though.
One thing I did do though was set up my Raptor drives as two independant arrays (C: & D:) rather than RAIDing them. This is because, I didn't want to stripe the drives just in case of another failure, plus I have more flexibility over storage space not mirroring the drives, unti lI can afford to by another hard drive or two. Anyway they're really fast in the first place.
For this motherboard I wouldn't bother with any other type of memory other than the KV400X64C25 as recommended on the MSI website, as it's quite fast and no hassle, (can't wait to get my second 512Mb so I can go back to dual channel!!) Only problem is that the price has gone up a little bit over the past couple of months.
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h ttp://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/146769/msi-r9280x-3072-131009.html
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When it comes to motherboard manufacturers, nothing would surprise me. The way I understand it, the Gigabyte board with the A0 chipset wasn't supposed to make it to market. Still, it has the A0 chipset and does support Hyperthreading.
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I am running into a small problem while upgrading a high end workstation at work and wondered if anyone was having the same problem, or could provide some advice. Here are the main specs.
-MSI 655 MAX-FISR (MS-6730) (No HT)
-Antec 400W power supply
-Intel P4 2.66Ghz 400/533Mhz Bus
-Crucial (2 sticks) 512mb DDR PC2700
Aligned in DIMM 1+3 as recommended by MSI
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In Raid-0
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Very frustrating, I hope that I am just missing something small. I have a tech support email sent to MSI. Thanks in advance if you can help.
Arcteryx~

Andy2 / Wonkanoby,
I will try flipping the cable now and the bios. Only thing is that the cable and board both have the cable guide tab that normally prevents you from putting the cable on the wrong way. Unless I really forced it on without paying attention. I have to go to another office but thank you for your quick response. Hopefully it is that simple.
Whipsnade, yes I have tried two other floppys and one other cable with the same results. Hopefully I will have a postive post when I try Andy2 / Wonkanoby recommendations.
Thank you all for the quick response!

MSI give us a new bios that will work

Why dont you release a new bios the latest one is dated 15/8 thats 2 MONTH now. Corecenter make other program lockup, max Vcore is 1.5volt no matter what I set it in bios and corecenter (And I'm not the only one that have this problem), Where is the Agp/pci lock that you promised to release in 2 weeks for 2 weeks ago? Lucky me that I bought an k8v also because this bord aint gono OC anything with a Vcore that stuck on 1.5 volt.

I think asking for a new BIOS that will "work" is a misleading.. The one the board ships with is working perfectly except for those who overclock. Challange MSI to give you a real OCers beta BIOS this thread here might give some people the impression that the boards don't work at all when they work just great.
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