New build: MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum + maxtor 300gb = problem?

Got these 2 products included in a order:
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra (Socket 939)
Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 10 NCQ 300GB
While checking up on the MB on the MSI site, I noticed a version of the bios (1.2) that says 'support for 300gb maxtor drives'
That's the same HD one I have coming with my order >.<
If the MB I get hasn't got that version of the bios already installed will I have trouble installing the drive?!
I downloaded the bios and it says in the readme not to install it from a floppy disk, so I guess you need a system up and running to make that update in the 1st place. No Idea how to go about this, if the need arises.

Quote from: Supershanks on 19-May-05, 21:45:00
Hi drjugears,
Welcome to the forum.
Many people are runnimg ok anyway as dope says.
But it's not an issue you can update the bios via floppy b4 connecting the maxtor.
See Flashing the BIOS for Users using NON FAT file system This is a guide written by msi. Strictly speaking if you folow the instructions you aren't flashing from a floppy the actual update is done on a virtual drive in memory.
if you need a floppy boot disc see Why no floppy for bios flash?
luck with build
Thanks very much for the welcome and info.
Unfortunately I'll have to wait a while to see...I installed everything....but need some adapter for the 6pin connecter on the ATI card. The power supply came with some 8 pin one. So I need a 4 to 6 pin adapter. Doubt If I'll find one local, so will probably have to wait until monday now to try it out.

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OS for new build w/K8N Neo4 Platinum

I will be building a new machine using an MSI Neo4 Platinum mobo. This is my 1st build. I have a registered WIN98 SE installation disk but fear it won’t work as MSI advises nvidia 4 chipset will not work with it. I do not want any more hassles than I already anticipate. Is it possible to buy the Pro Upgrade and do a direct install without 98 SE being installed or do I have to buy the full Pro? Concern being that by installing 98 first, I will trigger mobo errors prior to even getting a chance to upgrade. Thanks.

Again thanks to everyone; Hansh & Mike, you appear to have some experience with using the Upgrade, so let me ask you a question. Have you ever done it with this board in particular? The concept I believe would be that during the upgrade, the board itself doesn’t know (recognize) the OS until the install is complete, therefore it has no idea that SE was ever present, correct? To follow this train of thought – in order to insure that no remainders of SE are left hanging around on my HD prior to initiating this install, I would probably be best off if I started with a clean HD versus putting the old HD w/SE installed in; do you agree or should it make no difference?
Continuing, re: use of upgrade and hassles. I’m a college student and classes start next week, so I need to do this ASAP hence reduce hassle potential. The economics of all of this are: Upgrade via Bookstore is $71.00; best Home OEM is same amount; XP Pro OEM is $95. Dollar wise Upgrade makes best sense if hassle free; but some are saying go full OEM as no hassle. What’s the consensus (p.s. concern w/OEM = hassles w/MS during repeated changes I will be making to hdwre configuration as part of my install as will be adding one piece at a time to check for failures as I go. Thanks.

New Build Update K8N Neo4 Platinum Ultra 7125-010

I will report on the positive results of my build first. All installs went very smooth, no problems except for a bad floppy drive from the start which I did replace. I have 1 Sata hard drive on Sata controller #1. Installed XP Pro/SP2 Slipstreamed without doing the F-6 thing and had no problem with the Sata drive booting after install. I have a DVD/RW on IDE 1 as Master and a CD-Rom on IDE 2 as Master. The board is functioning very well for 5 days now. My only disapointment with this board, is the onboard sound. This is supposed to be better than my old K7N2 Delta L onboard sound. I am here to say, it is the very worst sound system I have ever heard. While getting the new build setup, I had a pair of $4.00 speakers hooked up and thought it was acceptable. When I hooked the build up to the rest of my hardware, which has a pair Altec Lansing speakers that sounded great with my old K7N2 Delta L, I was very shocked. Sounds like crap. Not much volume or other settings can make it sound worth a darn. Just can not figure out how the el-cheapo speakers sounded better than a pair of quality speakers. I have fooled with settings until the lady of the house is ready to pull my plug. Other than the sound issue, I do have to say this is one incredible machine. Guess if I really want quality sound or even something close, I will have to install a sound card.
Regards; Pops'
EDIT: Open mouth and insert foot. I was not about to quite give up on getting some decent sound from this system. Opened the Nvidia Mixer Application again and started fooling with selections. On the first screen, I had choosen the " 2 Speakers Mode ". Well, I started playing with the selections there and selected " 7.1 Speakers " and that made all the difference in the world. Now it is very acceptable. I am not real picky, but just could not figure out what happened when I moved the build to my office which had the Altec Lansing speakers and it sounded like crap without changing any settings??? Long story short, I guess it pays much reward to keep picking away at the settings.
Now I can go to bed and not have that grinding on my feeble mind.
Regard's again; Pop's the pooped.

Yep,the 2T setting is much slower compared to 1T.
What I did was this,I set the top row at auto,so that covers all the cas latencies.
Somewhere below is a second option on auto,I set this at manual.and changed nothing but the 2T to 1T.
One thing to note though,when I build my system I had some nvraid complaints when booting,still after disabling them all.
It needed a cmos reset to work properly.
Also I noticed in memory section from bios two settings in the bottom row.
read preamble value
max Async latency
They were both on 6ns. Setting them on 5ns makes things a little faster but also made my windows show some error messages just out of the blue.So I kept them on 6.
Now after a bios flash without resetting the cmos they were both set at higher numbers,thus more stability at a cost of some speed.
Again I had the nvraid complaints,so I needed to reset cmos (which is commonly recommended,even by MSI) and noticed the 2 memory settings are back at 6ns.
This led me to believe the board picks this up automatically after a clear cmos.
So no need for you to change any setting in bios except for the 1T option.
You will understand what I mean when you visit this bios memory page.
On a side note,I run at stock speeds also,except for the cell menu,I use agressive timings as enabled,speeds up your ram a bit also.
Ofcourse you have to try if it works on your system since you got different memory compared to mine.
Goodluck...

MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI sound needs -5V; newest Antec 550W has no -5V rail

I came within a whisker of ordering a non-returnable 3700 Venice, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI mobo and an upgraded Power Supply, Antec's newest 550W PS the TP2-550 EPS12V ($117). This has dual 2x24pin 12V 19A rails and is touted as the new V2.0 EPS12V/ATX12v compatible power supply for high performance SLI systems. By accident I came across a page at MSI for this mobo
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mai...ail.php?UID=641
At the end is this warning: MSI Reminds You...
• For this model, you must use a Power Supply which has a -5V pin supply. Also, the users manual which I downloaded on Pg 2-10 says the same thing
The above Antec PS specs do not show a -5V rail, nor does an Enermax 600W I looked at. The V2.0 specs for ATX12v which added 2x24pin 12V rails dropped -5V rail from the spec and it appears MSI is not conforming to the spec (See Antec response at end) None of the web sites selling these PS & mobos contain any warning. I vaguely recall from a forum a while back it may have something to do with the Soundblaster system in the mobo.
http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=22551 (click specifications)
Isn't this a major showstopper which is going to cause a lot of grief for those of us upgrading to SLI systems using this mobo and upgrading our PS to the newest & best power design? We won't know the PS won't work until we build the system.
Regards, Ron
Antec reply to me:
>>>>Thanks for the link. Since MSI's website does state the motherboard needs the -5v, the True550EPS12V will not work with this motherboard. The Standard (http://enhanceusa.com/documents/atx12v_v2.01.pdf) has removed the use for the -5v rail and it is no longer needed. MSI has not manufactured that motherboard to the Standard. Finding an ATX12V v2.0 power supply with the -5v might be hard to find. You should contact MSI for a compatibility list of power supplys that were tested to work with the K8N SLI Platinum.

Quote from: ccve3 on 21-May-05, 07:27:40
Wow!! syar2003 thanks for that post. I've spend an hour going through it & fasteddies links. Now I are a power expert. The dual rail argument is enough for me to go back to the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI with one of the single rail PS -5V units listed by fasteddie. The only question left now refers to computerpro3 recommendation on ultra power supplies for SLI
>>I quite simply wouldn't dream of putting anything else in my machine. Keep in mind, this section is for 2x 6800 models, not the 6600's which most any good psu will handle (like Antec Neopower, ocz 520, etc). . Pc Power and Cooling 510 Deluxe SLI edition (refer to list)
2. Zippy/Emacs 550-700w models
3. OCZ 600w (personally I would get the pcp&c for the price, but it's been proven here, so I'll be fair...).
These are really high end, expensive and only 3-4 choices. Since I'm getting one 6800GT and eventually another & possibly eventually a 4800 X2, I was hoping the OCZ 520W would do it but computerpro3 says Powermaster 520 isn't good enough for SLI. I found that there is an OCZ 600W ATX12 dual rail which surprisingly has a -5V rail needed for K8N Neo4 SLI Soundblaster. Will this meet computerpro3's preference for a high end PS for SLI systems even though I'm losing the 1 rail advantage. Maybe the 600 Watts just overwhelms the 1 rail/2 rail question.
Thanks again for the teriffic help
Regards, Ron
Wondering what you settled on. I got the Antec TP550 and it's flawless on the board. I even have the older 20pin model which works perfectly (including sound). If you really wanted what I would consider to be a top dog (pcpower and cooling), and find the -5v rail missing, all you have to do is place a phone order and request they add a -5v rail. It's a minimal cost and a total solution for having everything. Just my $0.02

MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum or MSI 6600GT PCI-E ?

Dear Sirs,
I've just bought a MSI NX6600 TD GT 128MB PCI-E and
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I Think that one of these is defective bacause WinXP
can't work with MSI original drivers, MSI old
drivers or Nvidia drivers. The system reboots.
I think that i've tried almost everything and this
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Is it possible that the problem is the Motherboard ?
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Dear Sirs,
I've just bought a MSI NX6600 TD GT 128MB PCI-E and
Motherboard MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum.
I Think that one of these is defective bacause WinXP can't work with MSI original drivers, MSI old drivers or Nvidia drivers. The system reboots.
I think that i've tried almost everything and this card only works badly with VesaSave driver (Generic Windows driver).
Could a defective video card works ?
Is it possible that the problem is the Motherboard ?
Any idea ?
Help me please,
Thank you very much,
ISW
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum
A64 3500+ Winchester
Original Cooler
DDR PC4000 GEIL 1GB ULTRA DUAL
MSI NX6600 TD GT 128MB PCI-E
Maxtor 120GB
Seagate 120GB
XP Home SP2

About PSU I'm a old (41 years old) newbie, and I had to re-assemble my old computer to work but I check this before with MSI software and at motherboard bios voltage check and remember that it was ok it is a 600 watts. But I think that even if it is not, I could at minus install the driver and start Windows. I had no possibility to even start Windows.
If I install any MSI or Nvidia driver, when loading WindowsXP the screen turns black and at some time after the system reboots and prompts to start in secure mode. So I can't do anything, even starts Windows with this videoboard with right drivers. It only works with "VesaSafe" driver.
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No Post/Black Screen - MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum

Hello,
Here is my problem, I bought MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum motherboard and got
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- CORSAIR XMS 1GB memory
- PCI-E Leadtek 7800GT video card
- Aspire 520Watt PSU
I have put all of it together fine( I have put many systems for friends before) hooked all the power cables, case to mobo stuff, fans. Every time I turn it on fans go on, and lights go on but there is nothing on the screen as if no signal from video card to monitor, plus no error beeps which means cpu and memory is fine right. I have tried to just have memory, video card and nothing else hooked up, same result. I have tried another PSU, same result. Now to add to this, I had same problem with ABIT motherboard and another video card(same) which eliminates bad motherboard and bad video card, since both I have replaced except this time I got MSI mobo and not ABIT. I got same problem with all of it, nothing comes up, no post while fans spin when I turn it on etc... What could be the problem? memory? case? Any ideas?
Please help me as I spent a lot of $ and time on this and had no signal to monitor so far. Thanks.

As I said at this point I am trying to boot without any drives plugged in just to get a post and boot up but no go. So basically all my drives are unplugged and I cannot get it to work, I have tried different psu and same problem. I have tried another video card( I RMA this one and got another) it goes and snaps into PCI E slot all good, I have checked that many times. The only thing I can think of is memory at this point but this is brand new XM Corsiar memory and why wouldnt the motherboard beep ( i hoked speaker) if there was any error like that? I just dont get what is going on.
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Considering the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum

Hello,
I'm currently deciding whether or not to get the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum, and I just have a few questions.
1) How beginner friendly is it?
2) Does it take a lot of work to make it run or can you just plug everything up and the system will run fast and stable?
3) How stable is this board? I've heard that MSI boards were unstable, so how stable is this specific board?
4) I know this board is good at gaming, but how about office work like using Microsoft Word, Excel, Powerpoint, etc.?
5) I plan to keep this system for at least four years, will this motherboard give a lot of trouble? And how reliable is it?
5) Can ya'll share your experiences with MSI?
Thanks for any help.

Quote from: ExpertNovice on 30-June-05, 03:43:00
Is the MSI website http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8N_Neo4_Platinum/SLI&class=mb where MSI names the board as "K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI" incorrect? It wouldn't be the first time a typographical error occurred.
If not then the OP may simply have not had enough room to enter a complete description.
No it is not incorrect, I am staring at the box mine came in. It says Platinum Edition-K8N Neo4/SLI, there is also a the non platinum version K8N Neo4/SLI and the non-SLI K8N Neo 4
anyway,
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Maybe I'll get the Platinum SLI edition instead so that I can upgrade later to SLI without having to buy a new card. If I do get the SLI I'll use a single card for now and put in the second card later when it's needed. Does the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI have any problems with running a single video card in non-SLI mode? And I've noticed that the SLI edition doesn't have a x1 PCIe or x4 PCIe slot, is sacraficing these two slots (as well as a regular PCI slot) worth it for SLI capabilities?
to answer that question, no it does not have problems running a single card in non SLI mode. It runs like a champ. I pernonally would not use the extra PCI slots, so to me SLI outweighs scarificing the extra PICe slots.

Thermalright XP-120 with MSI K8N NEO4 Platinum Mainboard

Greetings,
Can anybody tell me if they have configured the Thermalright XP-120 heatsink with an MSI K8N NEO4 Platinum Mainboard. I intend on fitting the AMD Athlon 64 3500+ CPU. I need to clarify if the heatsink/fan will impact on populating the DIMM slots, or any other aspect of configuration.
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Originally posted by niall_eidw
FastEddie,
Can you tell me what cooling options you are installing in your ASUS A8N mobo builds?
Regards,
Niall
Using a Zalman 7000B-Alu (took the asus back plate off and used the zalman's). Keeps things nice and frosty.
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Originally posted by skippy9146
Unfortunate how a company's right hand (marketing) doesn't know what the left hand (manufacturing) is doing.... or vice versa.
They make early announcements to generate intrest in a product and end up losing customers when they don't deliver.
The hype was these boards would be available at the begining of December, and that, after some minor delays/setbacks. I've been playing with parts ment for the NV4 based systems since the begining of December. MSI used to send me test boards direct from Taiwan to debug and stress--hell, I couldn't even get them to answer emails let alone send a test board.

Looking at getting MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum, advice please

I am looking at getting the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum mobo, but have to wait a few weeks to get a new cpu, will I be able to put my AMD Athlon XP 2400+ cpu into it until I get a new cpu or do I need to get a specific cpu for it?
Any help would be appreciated

Well the thing is, before the BIOS upgrade (to V1.5) the ram did run @ 400 (on V1.3). I did the research before buying parts and it all pointed to the board should run 4 @ 400. But hey not all things are 100% in life lol see Ram post !

Playing DVD-Audios with an MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum

I have a system built around an MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum motherboard. I'm using the motherboard's onboard sound, and I have it connected to a 5.1 speaker system. Using WinDVD 6 Platinum, I can play regular DVDs just fine, with awesome surround sound. However, when I try to play DVD-Audios, I only get stereo sound. Anyone have any suggestions?
A.J.

DVD video sound format AC3 5.1 and DVD-Audio sound format is not the same .
DVD-Audio disks has also a video AC3 5.1 track and stereo track , set yor sw player to use AC3 and see if it helps.
E.g a soundblaster Audigy ZE , or X-FI can render DVD-Audio , but not the onboard sound on Neo4.

Having problems with IEEE 1394 connection with MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum

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I am encountering problems connecting devices (portable hd etc) via firewire to my PC. My PC does detect the devices.
I am using the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum board.
Check with Device Manager show that the VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller is working properly.
IEEE 1394 controller has been enabled in Bios.
Need help to rectify this problem.
Thanks for the assistance...
Regards

Try this patch.

PowerDVD Software with a MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Motherboard

I have a system built around an MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum motherboard. I'm using the motherboard's onboard sound, and I have it connected to a 5.1 speaker system. Has anyone with a similar setup been able to play DVD-Audio discs with surround sound? I tried WinDVD 6 Platinum, but while I could get awesome surround sound from a regular DVD, I only got stereo sound from a DVD-Audio.
Has anyone used PowerDVD Deluxe? According to what I've read, it supports DVD-Audio surround playback, but I'd like to verify that it works before shelling out $70.
A.J.

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And specifically using the onboard sound of a MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Motherboard?
Nope, I'm sorry - it does not make much sense to do that when you have a real soundcard - I will look into the DVD-Audio thing for you, though. Just out of curiosity: why would you want to use a format specifically designed to provide the highest possible audio fidelity with on-board sound?

Problem witn MSI K8N Neo4 platinum

Hello!
Got a strange problem.
gonna give u my specs for the pc first:
AMD64 3000+
2*512mb PC3200 Kingston Hyper X
MSI K8N Neo4 platinum
His x800xl
Seagate 80gb,IDE 3,5 ( currently Linux is installed on it)
Here is the problem.
I've just put all the parts together. Turned on the PC, got into boot screen, pressed delete to enter bios, no problem here, change the first boot to: Cd rom. Beacuse I'm gonna install Xp on it. save and exit the bios, the post(?) screen shows up with sume info, and at the button i can choose: Press F1 to continue or press DEL to enter setup.
I press contunie and a blac screen show up and it said hit ctrl+s to enter raid meny, or something like that, press just enter, the a long list is been gone threw, ends up with : press any key to boot from cd,
i press a Key and the xp cd just start and gets to: controlling the hardware of the computer ( first thing the swedish install cd does). And after seeing that line and three dotes after it for about 5 seconds, it just dissapear and the screen remains black, the cd rom is loading, but no more...
anyone of u know what the problem is?
Best regards
// Swedo

Seems like i am having the same problem on My K8N Neo4 Platinum, actually i built 3 identical rigs. And i am having the same problem as above. What i did to get around the problem was connect My Sata II hard drives to the orange slots on the mobo, and run them as raid0 and everything works, i dont know why i can run it on the purple slots without raid.

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