New camera raw support in 10.5.7

But unfortunately still no Leica D-LUX4 or Panasonic LX3.

nerowolfe, no, of course I don't "know for a fact that information was submitted to Apple and was ignored." I used reason and logic to conclude that it's more likely than not that information has been supplied. And I could just as well be wrong. But here's what I based my thinking on:
Leica announced both the M8.2 and the D-LUX4 on the same day last September, and I believe the DLUX4 was actually available before the M8.2, which is now supported. Indeed, I think every Leica digital camera is supported now, except for the DLUX4. In order for us to conclude that Leica is the problem, we'd have to suppose that, unlike all of its other cameras, Leica is holding back on this one specific model for some reason. Is that a reasonable supposition? I don't think so. Further, their predecessors are supported (both the M8 and the D-LUX 3). So at least the history here suggests that Leica does cooperate. But it's certainly possible that this camera was singled out for special treatment. Who knows, maybe they made a deal with PhaseOne, makers of CaptureOne supplied with the camera, not to give the secret sauce ingredients to Apple.
But no, I don't know for sure that information was in fact supplied and was ignored. I simply was hoping for support for this camera that's been out for many months now without raw support in Aperture.

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Will you be putting out a new camera raw or update that will support the Canon 7D Mark II?

I have recently purchased a Canon 7D Mark II and do not have camera raw to support it. Will you be developing this soon???

The camera-raw supported applications list is somewhat misleading and not updated for ACR 8.7, obviously.
The misleading part is that PS-CS6/CC/CC-2014 all can be updated to ACR 8.7, even though the list lists ACR 8.3 for CC and CS6. The reason for the lower version for CC and CS6 is that both those have lower OS-version requirements (Vista/OSX 10.6) than ACR 8.7, and ACR 8.3 was the last version of ACR to work with the same lower version compatibility.
If you have PS-CS6 or newer and Win7 or OSX 10.7 or newer then you can update your camera raw plug-in to ACR 8.7, but if your OS is older or your version of PS is older then you can’t.

Camera Raw support for new Nikon D810

Hi, could you please advise when we can expect to see camera raw support for the new nikon D810.
Thanks

Adriana – I installed the download from the link in the 7/27 post and was able to convert my NEF files to DNG format from my new D810 camera, but could not view/edit the NEF-smalls. When I saw your latest post I used your link to go to that download and noticed that in the description it mentioned that the issues with the D810 NEF-small have been resolved. I deleted/emptied trash of the 7/27 download and re-installed the one mentioned from your link – although they were both identical in file size and version: 8.6 – hmm? I tried the converter – but nothing new was converted (I presume because all had already been converted before?). However, CS6 is still not able to open/edit neither the NEF-small file formats, nor the DNG created from it. I am thinking maybe I am missing a step, because when I select properties for Camera Raw in CS6, the version is 8.5.0.236 – is that ok (my CS6 version is 13.0.6 – and no other updates appear available)? I only downloaded the DNGConverter_8_6.dmg; installed the .pkg – did I forget a step? Thanks for your help!

How can i get lightroom to support new camera raw files

I am getting a new camera camera. An Olympus 510. It will be coming out soon.
Will Lightroom be able to convert the raw files to dng when Adobe camera raw supports this new raw file? Or will I have to wait for a new version of Lightroom (which we all know is very slow in coming?)

>Or will I have to wait for a new version of Lightroom (which we all know is very slow in coming?)
Do you not ask the obvious? If you buy a car before the tire size is in production-- you won't be driving very far until the calvary arrives -- if it arrives. Adobe is committed to supporting most new DSLRs, but keep in mind there's no guarentee that will always be the case. In the interim, the car company should supply you with the tires -- and maybe even a full tank of gas for their lack of foresight.
Should "very slow" not be fast enough, then why would you even consider buying a camera that isn't supported? Cameras that produce native DNG files, or have been in the market long enough -- are very fast to offer you support. You can't have your cake and eat it too. :~)

Camera Raw Support for Canon 7D MkII

Just trying to get some idea if I should spend the $99.00 to buy Aperture from the Apple Store. This might sound a little over the top, but the work flow I miss by not having RAW support in Lightroom is worth the expense of buying Aperture.
I do find it very disappointing that Adobe have not as yet provided support for the new Canon 7D MkII. This will be a VERY popular camera.
More importantly I find this tardiness on Adobe's part very disappointing because they market CC buy saying "You will always have up to date software". When you consider Apple and Google Picasa have both already supported the Canon 7D MkII. I might add they both had support for the camera within days of it's release on 31 of Oct.
So after my little rant.
Can anybody from Adobe advise when we will see Camera Raw support the new Canon 7DMkII?
Even if it is in Beta form I would be very happy to be a Beta tester. I have very extensive experience in testing software and would be prepared to do structured Beta testing. I would be very happy if someone from Adobe Labs would contact me for the purpose of Beta testing Camera Raw support for the 7D MkII.
Kind Regards
Tom Croll

Thanks ssprengel, you have clearly put into words what is currently reality at Adobe, and confirmed my suspicion of Aperture being a dead product. Although Google's Picasa is not dead.
I do realize Adobe Products are very well developed and software does take time to perfect before it gets released. I have been in the software development game for 35 years
But Camera RAW is an adjunct to Lightroom, Photoshop, Premier Pro etc. As such the support for new camera models should be a relatively simple exercise and should not be held up by other R&D on the products that Camera Raw plugs into. I believe they have in the past released updates to Camera Raw that essentially was just for new camera models. I do realize I could be wrong on this point, but I fail to see why they can't achieve this outcome.
Also, as I said Adobe Market Creative Cloud membership saying you will always be up to date. Or words to that effect.
To have an Adobe support person get upset because he has a large number of people pestering Adobe, and not him personally, trying to get ans answer as to the timing of the release of support for a new camera model, quite frankly is totally unacceptable. Not acceptable to the customers and not acceptable to the poor support person who has to handle disgruntled customers due to poor planning on Adobe's part.
In my original post I made a very serious offer to do Beta Testing on support for the Canon 7DMkII Raw files. But when i last checked with Adobe Labs the current Beta does not include support for this camera.
There maybe extenuating circumstances around the timely supply of this support. Like when did Canon provide the Specs for the 7D MkII and are those specs so different from other currently supported models. Even some feedback as to what the problem is, would help us understand.
I hope I have expressed my thoughts objectively and hope this discussion stream will get to management at Adobe. In fact I am very inclined to ensure it does get to senior management. I don't want to start writing a personal letter to the Chairman of Adobe's Board, but sometimes things do need a shake up.
Kind Regards
Tom Croll

Can I upgrade Camera Raw support in Elements 10 to level 8.3 or 8.4?

I just bought a Nikon D5300 and I wanted to shoot see some test images I shot in Camera Raw. Trouble is that Elements 10 support for NEF files is at level 6.7, and, according to the Adobe charts, the D5300 NEF files are supported at level 8.3 or 8.4 because the camera is newer than Elements 10. So, I tried to run an update in Elements 10, but it's telling me that it's up to date.
So, how do I get support for my new camera in Elements 10? Is there a way to upgrade the Camera Raw support to level 8.3 or 8.4?

I posted a second question because I tried the DNG converter, but it doesn't support the 5300, or I can't get it to work. So, my thought was to try to find a copy of PSE 11 I could register, and then try to upgrade it.
Soapbox mode on.
Much of the conversation about raw files relates to the continuous improvement process of both the camera manufacturers and the software makers. In my case, Nikon released the D5300 in November 2013 with full support for it in its View NX software. And I can use that software to create JPEG's that PSE 10 can work with, but it's far from an optimal solution.
Adobe brought out PSE12, and the Camera Raw plug in covers a host of new cameras including mine. OK, but the issue is that those of us who have 'older' software then are forced to upgrade to the PSE version that will support our cameras, instead of just installing a plug-in, as we do to our browsers when a new version of Flash Player comes out. the only thing constant is 'change'.
It's apparent from comments I've been reading on the Forum that many of the Adobe employees who answer questions here are put out by the pace of change and the amount of work they have to do in order to respond to new cameras, etc. That's their job, and they should complain less and work more, IMO. If those Adobe employees are irritated by the questions we users ask, perhaps they should reconsider the attitude they display in answering them, or maybe even a career change.
However, Adobe itself should be making the plug-ins for PS, LR and PSE so they can apply to older versions when possible. Adobe needs to set a horizon on what older products to work with, and not just the latest version. When I worked in software development, that horizon was -2 versions plus the two in development. By that logic, PSE 10 should be capable of supporting the latest versions of the Camera Raw plug-in. And if I were in Adobe's software development unit, this is what I'd pitch for. Microsoft does it, and Adobe does it too with Microsoft products, so why not with PS, LR and PSE? It's not that hard, people.
Soapbox mode off.
I can and probably will use the Nikon software for raw images. If I want to use some special effects, I can come back to PSE or LR. But I'm not disposed to throw another $80 to Adobe for a product every time I buy a new camera.
Would you be?

Camera RAW Support for Canon 7D Mark II

Hi,
I've just purchased the Canon 7D Mark II, connected it to my PC, but then found that Adobe Camera RAW doesn't support it yet. Any updates when this camera might be possibly supported?

Would it really do any good for Adobe to communicate an official release date? If they didn't meet that date then you would just call Adobe a liar. Adobe has users from several different companies waiting for support. And whether you believe it or not, there is no providing of specs from camera makers. They don't care whether Adobe Camera Raw supports the camera. Adobe is just another company to them. Adobe has to purchase each camera and then create the profiles for it. The real solution? Camera makers, agree on a common file format. If you won't do that, then YOU take the blame for this delay that happens about four times every year.
Actually, it would help, Jim. It does not have to be exact... it would help to know "this quarter" or "by the end of the year" or "mid-December". It would help because I could decide whether to find a workaround patch, or switch to a different system.
The camera makers are more than willing to provide that info, but according to a contact at Canon USA, in 2008 Adobe changed the game and decided to be more proprietary with their compatibility, presumably so that people would be required to upgrade their software every year just to be able to use new camera technology. It was Adobe's decision, and they could easily decide to play nice. But it is an unfair characterization to say that the camera makers don't care if Adobe supports their camera. That is just a silly assertion.
It comes down to he said - she said, and the two companies are simply pointing fingers at each other. Neither you nor I know the absolute truth about who is right... I only know that I am dissatisfied with Adobe's lack of communication, and slow response when compared to other companies, larger and smaller.

Can I upgrade the Camera Raw support in PSE 11 to version 8.3 or 8.4, so it supports my Nikon D5300?

I just upgraded my camera - and the Camera Raw support in PSE 11 is not able to support it. Can I upgrade the Camera Raw plugin, or is Adobe going to force me to buy an upgrade to PSE 12 or another of their products?

You'd better complain to Nikon... Just like other camera manufacturers who issue new raw formats for each and every new camera. Adobe and all other software companies have to reverse engineer each new format. Those manufacturers could use the open and public DNG format (a few do).
Adobe answer to that problem is to provide a free software, the DNGconverter which can batch convert a folder of raw files to the universal DNG raw format which your old Elements version can read.
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1030798?tstart=0

New camera raw extentions

Where can I get a new camera raw cr2 extention for elements 10?
I have a new canon power shot s100 so elements is not importing the raw files to the organizer

The only firewall is yours, but the update server is probably undergoing maintenance.
Here's the link for the latest available ACR, so you can install it manually:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5371
Ken

PS CS5 64 bit, just bought a new Canon 70D I need a new camera raw

OK, I'm really confused, I have PS CS5 64 bit, just bought a new Canon 70D I need a new camera raw for this camera, I thought 8.2 was available for CS5 apparently not. Help!

Adobe only updates its current versions of products with new camera support. PS-CS6 and PS-CC were the current versions of Photoshop when the 70D came out so only those two versions of Photoshop will receive the new updated camera raw plug-in.
You can always used the DNG Converter 8.2 (currently available in pre-release status at Adobe Labs) to convert newer camera raw files to work with obsolete versions of the camera raw plug-in, paying special attention to the DNGC compatibility options to may sure you have them set old enough for your CS5-vintage plug-in.
http://labs.adobe.com/

New Camera RAW in Photoshop CC 2014 won't open multiple Panasonic RAW (.rw2) at the same time from Windows Explorer.

New Camera RAW in Photoshop CC 2014 won't open multiple Panasonic RAW (.rw2) at the same time from Windows Explorer. If I select 2 raw files and click "Open" Camera RAW will only open 1 raw, then when I click "Done" it will close and open the second, sequentially. Previous Photoshop CC and RAW worked fine, it would open mulitple RAW at the same time. How do I fix this?

If it worked for you that way previously there isn't much to comment about. I just tried opening multiple images from Windows Explorer with Photoshop CS6 and Camera Raw 8.6, and the first image would open and when I clicked cancel then the second image would open. But if I wanted multiple images opened in Camera Raw to work on them simultaneously it was necessary for me to open them from Bridge. I just did it as an experiment because I normally use Lightroom. Anyway, IF it was a feature at one time to work as you described, it doesn't seem to be that way now.

Installing the new camera raw plugin for pse6 HELP!!!

Ok, so what am I doing wrong? I've downloaded the new camera raw 4.6 plugin for pse6 and It isn't updating! Can someone help me??? I'm obviously doing something wrong - if you could walk me through the steps I'd greatly appreciate it!
Thanks!!!

dj_paige,
sorry I wasn't clear - I got it figured out.

Is there Camera RAW support for Lightroom 4.4 and Canon 7D Mark ii?

I need Camera RAW support for Lightroom 4.4 and Canon 7D Mark ii. Is there a Camera RAW version for me?

Thanks for your help. I checked out DNG on YouTube and understand more
about it. I downloaded the DNG converter and transferred in files from my
camera. Then I imported into Lightroom. It works! Thanks again.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Jeff Schewe <[email protected]>

How to get the new camera raw 7.2 update?

most of our company computers are offline.
so how do we get the new camera raw 7.2 update?
until now they were always released as manual downloads.... now i have to read this from adobes blog:
Camera Raw 7.2 – Please use the update mechanism in Photoshop CS6
http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/
does that mean there will be no manual update anymore or is it not up yet?

Thanks for the link, Anthony, and yes, I have already seen that. But I don't need the description or justification to know that it represents a step backward in image quality. Admittedly a small one, but a step nonetheless.
Let me be direct: The color-fringing that occurs on edges that concerns me is not addressed by the new implementation. Specifically, the colored remnants from de-Bayering (what some call de-mosaicing) are what bother me.
My point is that the old simple Defringe setting, set to All Edges, worked very nicely to fight this common aberration. There's a thread around here somewhere in which I visually demonstrated the differences.
Here are the important points:
The new Defringe feature, even thyough it has more controls, simply CANNOT be configured to remove those same de-Bayering colored remnants as effectively as the old, simple Defringe: All Edges setting did. Thus the new implementation is not a superset of the functionality of the old.
When one tries to configure the new implementation to reduce de-Bayering color remnants - even with minimal settings - the negative side effects of the new method are much greater and more visible, making it unacceptable to be made a default setting.
It's worth pointing out that the old Defringe feature isn't available even under the PV2010 setting. The way the new Defringe feature was implemented represents a departure from Adobe's philosophy of maintaining compatibility with old settings.
It shouldn't have been strictly necessary to remove the old Defringe feature as it was implemented to add the new implementation, which addresses an entirely different (though nearby) set of aberrations. If necessary to avoid confusion or coding difficulties it COULD have been renamed, though internally it could still work the same. Or it could have been made an either/or setting. Personally I think it would be nicest to be able to combine the two - old and new Defringe features - as needed.
As it is, for the above reasons - and the fact that the newest versions run slower - I've dropped back to using Camera Raw 7.0, which is an acceptable workaround for me for now as I still use a camera that version understands. But of course that's not a viable long-term strategy. If Adobe doesn't see fit to restore this feature I've only put off the inevitable image quality degradation until Camera Raw 8 and Photoshop CS7.
-Noel

Reading new camera raw files

Waiting until a camera manufacturer supplies you with a new camera and then waiting until you add the code to LR messes everyone up. Why can't you have LR read new camera raw files if the file format is the same as a similar camera as a generic conversion. Then when you do the thing right and add the proper conversion code, then use that conversion.

Because just because a company like Canon or Nikon doesn't change the file
extension doesn't mean the raw files from one camera to another are anywhere
close to being the same. Think about. Raw files is the raw data from the
cameras sensor. This changes from one camera to another. There is no generic
raw data each camera generates something different and that needs to be
taken in to account so that ACR and all other raw processing programs can
handle the data correctly. Otherwise you picture of cousin Lurch could come
out purple with yellow polka-dots.
If you want a generic format tell the camera makers to use DNG. That is
about as generic as you are going to get.
Robert

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