New cost element group creation + PMCO recreation

Hello,
I got the request from business that subgroup GPG1OTHE should be excluded from the main cost center group GPG1OTHT1 (KAH2). Then subgroup GPG1OTHE should be assigned to newly created value category 'Other, Maintenance' (this will be done in PM SPRO)
Request execution is not complected but wondering whether after this I should 'recreate' PMCO table using one of those reports - RIPMCO00 or RIPMS001?
Thanks in advance for all your clues.
Grzegorz

Grzegorz,
You would need to execute the report only if you want to move the costs on the old orders to this new value category.If you are only concerned with new orders then you wouldn't need to execute this report.
Regards
Narasimhan

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EXPORTING
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TABLES
t_nodes = p_it_cenodes
t_values = p_it_cevalues
CHANGING
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no_controlling_area = 1
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