New depreciation calculation

We are in an upgrade Project (4.6C >> ECC 6.0).
We have activated extension EA-FIN and the new depreciation calculation was activated automatically. We have to execute transaction AFAR to correct the values of all our assets but differences are too big sometimes. On the other hand, the depreciation values proposed by the system are not correct (we have the simplest depreciation key: linear !!!!).
Has somebody had this problem?
Thanks in advance.
Fernando.

hello,
i am suffering from the same problem, our TRM consultants activatede EA-FS for their moudle along with EA-FIN.
the later component resulted in change in the calculation of Deprn (for Dep Term assets) and Interest Calculation (for all assets in general),
this has resulted in exhorbitant amount of posting proposed thru AFAR,
i don;t know how to get rid of this,
pls check the SAP Note 965032 (v.imp.) for this which narrates about the shift in the base base for Interest calculation etc. (para (g) )
the only advice i have given so far is not to run AFAR in the actual mode..wait till year end & then after year change in the first period of next year, run AFAR to incorporate the changes for re-calculations...
this will spread the number for all the postings through out all the open periods (all 12),
best regards,
~r.

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Values for Ordinary deprec. have changed in dep. area 13 in fiscal year 2007
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[email protected]

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How to calculate tax depreciation for India.
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Dear Nagesha,
Please note that J1INQ is NOT in use and this report has been withdrawn by SAP.
Please review the below note in this reference.
738919 - IT Depreciation for Assets, India
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The general availability of this report will be announced through this
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Have a Nice Day,
if you are ok with the above info, then close this ticket.
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Edited by: manucs on Dec 29, 2011 10:12 AM

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Hi Yatsea
Let me explain the full scenario as below:
1) Customer has Fixed Assest which has useful life of 25 years, i.e. 300 months.
2) The assets has been depreciated for a few months, e.g from July 2008 to Mar 2009. In FA Master Data, it shows the remaining useful life is 294.
3) From Mar 2009 onwards, the management decides that the userful life is to be 30 instead of 25. The past depreciated value is to remain. The new depreciated value is to be effective from Mar 2009 onwards.
Changes Done
1) In Fixed Asset Master file, under the General tab, a change has been made to the Useful life from 300 to 360. The remaining life is auto-change to 354.
2) Re-run the depreciation for Mar 2009.
3) The new depreciated value is re-calculated from Jan 2009 onwards and the adjustment is posted in Mar 2009.
What is required is that Jan 2009 to Feb 2009 should remain the original depreciated value. The new depreciated value should be adjusted from Mar 2009 onwards.
Please advise is there any solution or proposals.
Example
Asset value = 518749.95
Useful life = 300
Remaining Useful life = 294
Monthly Planned Depreciated Value = 1729.17, Dec Planned Depreciated value = 1729.13
After Changes Done
Asset value = 250000
Useful life = 360
Remaining Useful life = 354
Monthly Planned Depreciated Value = 1436.09, Dec Planned Depreciated value = 1436.06
Required
Asset value = 250000
Useful life = 360
Remaining Useful life = 354
Jan and Feb Planned Depreciated Value = 1729.17
Mar 2009 onwards, Planned Depreciated Value = 1404.95
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where 20750 is the depreciated value for 2008 and 3458.34 is the depreciated value for Jan and Feb 2009.
Thanks
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Never mind found it from reading other posts. I used AFBN and it worked. Thanks
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Hello,
Asset Legacy Data transfer has made as on 31.12.2006. so, for the first period asset depreciation calculation has done wrongly i.e. on the first period of 2007. but it was not noticed at that point of time, now after 2 years, the cumulative difference is coming out very big.
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1. Copy correction program from SAP Note 144441 into SAP System.
2. Execute the program with transaction code SA38
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