New Double Layer Superdrive

OK, so the new MacBook Pro just released has a double layer superdrive. Yet us early adopters were told it could not be done because of the size of the MacBook. Hmmm, so does that mean we are going to be left out in the cold with no options for upgrades?

Almost certainly. Only on one occasion recently has Apple offered upgrades for their laptop drives (DVD to DVD-R in first and second gen TiBooks). The rumor was this was done to replenish a stock of spares for the Cube and TiBook range.
At the time the MacBook Pro was released, only Matshita made the 9.5mm drives used in the MacBook Pro (vs 12.5mm drives in the Powerbooks and most PC laptops).
Either Apple has rearranged things significantly inside (which I doubt) or Matshita has released a 9.5mm Dual Layer Superdrive (most likely). There may be a third party company selling the part at some point in the future which could allow an upgrade (Part will probably be called a UJ-867, but I'm sure pictures will appear soon)

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Differences In "Combo Drive" vs. the "Double-Layer Superdrive" ?

i was looking at the base macbooks on the apple mac website and there is two different white models and one has the "combo drive" and the other has the "double-layer superdrive". is there much of a difference?
also, on those two base models, one has a 2.0Ghz processor and the other is a 2.2Ghz... is there really going to be much of a noticeable difference?
thanks!

The difference is that the combo drive cannot burn DVD - it can only burn CD. The SuperDrive can burn CD or DVD.
Both combo and SuperDrive can play cd's and DVD's.

Difference between 8X Super Drive and 8X 'Double Layer' Superdrive?

Can someone advise me the difference, if any, between 8X Super Drive and
8X 'Double 'Layer' Super Drive. I often see both used in advertisments for
Apple Computers. Thanks.

DVDs can be single-layer (4.7 GB) or dual-layer (8.5 GB). All drives can read both types, and burn single-layer, but only a dual-layer drive can burn dual layer. Macs have all shipped with dual-layer drives for several years. I think all drives currently sold are dual-layer, so it may just be an omission in some of the ads, unless they are for older equipment.

How do I find out if I have "double-layer"?

Hi, I just purchased my new MacBook from the store, and I went to the online store, and noted that the model I purchased, the Core 2 Duo with 2G Processor, 80G HD, and 1G of RAM, says it has "Double-layer SuperDrive", however the model I purchased in the store just says SuperDrive on the box. Is that the same thing, or do they not include the double-layer in the store model...?
Thank you so much! I just want to make sure I got the best deal for the money.
Ricky
MacBook Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Don't know about upgrading the drive, but I'm pretty sure in two years I'll be upgading my first generation MacBook's RAM and HD, seeing as how I currently have about 5% remaining of each.
I'm not regretting the faster processors as much as I am the 802.11n chipset in the Core2Duo MacBooks. Oh yeah and the single layer DVD burner is a big downer.
Erg... to think, if I had waited three more months to buy my first Mac, I could have gotten all this in a Black MacBook with a bigger hard drive, and for the SAME price.
However, what I do not regret are the priceless first 90 days with the MacOSX and iLife experience. When I think of all that I have been able to do since I first got my Mac, I only regret not getting one SOONER.
Plus, as an ex-Windows user and ex-avid gamer, I'm used to finding myself a step behing. I'm just not as used to not knowing something right around the corner, like it is with Apple.

How does it work? SuperDrive with double-layer support

Hi,
Can anyone help me? I own a macbook with SuperDrive with double-layer support. I want to try to burn a dvd with the dual layer, how does this work? Which applications do i need? I have been searching for info on this subject but havent succeeded so far..

Any standard burning application such as Toast (or OS Xs built in burning) will burn a dual layer disk. You don't need to do anything special... it will just see the disk with double the capacity. What you do need to do is get dual layer DVDs. They're not all that easy to find at many retail stores, but they're pretty easy to find online.

Superdrive, iBook G4 and Double Layer

Hello everyone!
See, somewhere on the net I saw that the superdrive included on later iBook G4's (Matshita DVD-R UJ-845E) is capable of Double Layer recording.
However, it doesn't say so on the System Profile. Will there ever be something enabling the drive to record Double Layer discs? this would be so cool... Why don't they enable it if the harware is capable?
Yours,
Francis

I wonder if this is why Otherworld Computing stopped advertising a dual-layer burner for the iBook. MCETech still lists one at their site however ($149US), and I plan on picking one up for my iBook--when I buy it for myself for Christmas!

Double layer = double trouble

Using iDVD 6 with latest updates and an MCE-branded Pioneer 8x DL drive.....Have previously burned successful double layer projects with this drive, including one that was 2.5 hrs long.
My current DL project is a 4.4 Gb movie for my kid's kindergarten class with 15 chapters, plus an Extras section with a short 12 min clip (no chapters) and a 320-picture iPhoto slideshow (exported as QT movie to iDVD)
Everything burns fine, but early into Chapter 12, playback sputters and then freezes. Completely unable to move past it with my set top DVD player's remote. Have duplicated this playback error on 5 other DVD players.
To date I have re-burned this project using all combinations of Best Performance, Best Quality, +R DL, and -R DL. No matter what I try, I get the same playback freeze. It's not always in the same spot, but the symptoms are identical. IIRC, the error also replicates when I'm playing the project back in iDVD.
So my question is....could the large number of chapters be responsible for this, or maybe the theme I used (the white reflection theme from 6.0)? I've completely run out of ideas, not to mention the fact that I've wasted $40 worth of DL DVDs (all Verbatim media BTW) trying to experiment with different settings.
Breaking news.....I finally got fed up and just deleted the slideshow, making the project size small enough to fit on a single-layer -R. Guess what: it plays back perfectly. Something about this project, it seems, makes it toxic to double layer. Too bad, because except for the freeze it looked gorgeous. Any ideas??
G5 Dual 2 GHz Mac OS X (10.4.3) MCE 8x DL Superdrive

By this, are you referring to a double-layer +R?
Yes. I forgot the DL.
Are you saying these fears are unwarranted?
I have had zero trouble creating and burning DL images.
Also, how do you specify particular burn speeds (ie 2x) in iDVD?
You have to burn with Disk Utility or Toast. You can control the speed there. I use Toast.
Suggest you create a disc image and then burn the DVD. File/Save as Disc Image...
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=iDVD/6.0/en/18.html
This will isolate any encoding/burning issues you may encounter. Once the disc image is created, double-click the .img and burn the virtual disc that should appear on your desktop, using Toast to burn the DVD. Disk Utility to burn the .img file. Usually, you can select a burning speed in Disk Utility.
There are variations to this process based on which OS X you are using...
Open Disk Utility (in Utilities folder in Applications folder), click on the virtual disc (maybe the .img) in the left-hand window. Click the Burn icon. A new window should drop down and your SuperDrive tray will open after clicking the Burn icon. Insert a recordable DVD. (Verbatim DVD-R preferred by me.) Click the Close button. Wait. Select a burn speed. If you hold your mouse cursor over the pop-up it says: "Select a slower speed to work around burn failures," so select 4x or slower for best results. Then click the Burn button.
-->If the virtual disk selection won't allow you to click the Burn icon, use the .img file instead. This may have changed in 10.3.9 and did change in Tiger.
Also, you can use DVD Player to play the virtual disk to check your iDVD project before burning to DVD. Launch DVD Player. File/Open VIDEO_TS (Open DVD Media... in Player 4.6). Find the VIDEO_TS folder and open that. (The audio folder is for DVD-Audio disks.)
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93006

Disc image form a double layer DVD fails

I am trying to make a disc image from a double layer DVD in Disc Utility (os 10.5.1) so I can burn another copy (I burned the disc I am copying from, so it should not be encrypted or anything) and it has an i/o error part way through each time I try, I am guessing it is hitting the double layer splice point and not knowing what to do or something.
Any help would be much appreciated!
Thanks in advance!

Hi
There is a far fetched solution - but far from perfect.
(Best You can do is as Old Toad writes - Make it SL from start)
But anyhow
• in iDVD Save as a DiskImage
• Then use Roxio Toast™ and copy the DiskImage to a new SL-DVD - BUT also select Fit-on-DVD.
Now Toast will re-compress (takes sever amount of time) so that the material will fit (up to 10 hours on a SL-DVD)
BUT there are several Cons. to this
• Roxio Toast™ is not free - nor is it cheap
• Takes a long time to do
• Resulting DVD will look poor (Much worse than a SL-DVD from iDVD from start)
(A 10 hour SL-DVD - looks like crap)
So Yes it's technically possibly - But I can not motivate it at all.
Yours Bengt W

How to get rid of the new bottom layer with piano roll etc. in arrange??

Hey guys,
Just a quick question i suppose.
I work with 2 screens.
When I double click a midi event, i want the piano roll to open in a floating window, just like it used to be, and not in the new bottom layer (pop up) bar in the bottom of the arrange window. I want this because i like to edit on the second screen while still haveing an overview of my arrange on my 1st screen.
Does anyone know how to do this? Or perhaps know how to get rid of this new bar all together?
I hope someone does....
thanks in advance!
cheers,
PM

how annoying is it to go to a seperate screen set and then click a midi region just to edit it?
You haven't grasped the concept of screensets.
In the "old" way of working, in your arrange, you double-click on a region, which opens that region in an editor. You may have to move the editor position/size etc. You make your edits, and then close the window.
The screenset way of doing this is simpler and quicker. In your arrange, you select your region (one click, rather than a double click). You then hit a key command, lets' say "2" to switch to your editor screenset, which has the eitor or combination of editors you use, in link mode. As soon as you hit your 2 key, the editors will be recalled at the precise locations you specified, showing you the contents of your selected region.
When you are finished editing, just hit "1" to go back to your main arrange window.
Once you get used to this, you'll find it's a lot quicker and more efficient than all that rsi double clicking and window closing...

Disk Utility fails to create image from double layer DVD

I burned a double-layer DVD using iDVD. It plays fine on the mac and on set-top DVD players. However, when I try to create an image of the DVD using Disk Utility, I get "Can't create image 'name.cdr' (input/output error)". I've tried re-burning the original disk, but it gets the same error when trying to create an image. I've also tried each of the image types, all with the same result.

I was having similar problems, although I don't think my issues was related to a double-layer DVD. What worked for me was selecting File > New > Disk Image from Folder. Select the DVD in the file open/save dialog with the same options you used before (e.g., DVD/CD master, etc).
HTH
- Dave

Two complete live shows on a single DVD+R double layer disc

Hello!
I am a new customer of Adobe's and have gone from Sonic MyDVD v6.1 to v9.0, then to Adobe Premiere Element 3.0 last month, and finally to Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 with Adobe Encore CS3 a few days ago with the digital downloads. Absolutely no problems downloading 3.5GB of files, which is unheard of for my computer and no problems whatsoever with serial numbers for the downloads either.
Fortunately for me, all of my problems have been stemming from being inexperienced with Premiere Pro and the online tutorials and help from Forum users have been fantastic! Well, with the exception of the "Desktop Display Mode has been reset because the video card returned an error" error message that seems to keep cropping up and causing my video to look unrendered, despite it all now being rendered, I am at a crossroads of what to do here.
Two years ago, I videotaped one of my favorite local bands performing an outdoor live show in the afternoon and then videotaped them performing at a club the same night. Now I am trying to re-make the same DVD that I made for them using Sonic MyDVD 6.1, because they want to sell it now, but this time on a double-layer disc for better quality (plus I upgraded my crap NEC DVD burner that came with my Dell computer to an LG GSA-H10L since then, which works great and doesn't make error-prone DVDs) and also remove some bonus materials that they thought would only be of interest to them and took up too much space. The only problem is that I deleted all of my original source files because they were taking up too much space and I couldn't save a 10MB file anywhere else. In hindsight, I probably could have split it up into smaller pieces, but that's not the issue now.
When I bought Adobe Premiere Elements 3.0, I remember reading something that said to put two complete video files on the same timeline and just add Main Menu markers and End Point markers to allow the program to auto-populate the chosen DVD template. So I did that, but I hated the templates and there was very little control over anything. Sonic MyDVD at least gave me the option to center the button text. In the end, I upgraded to Adobe Premiere Pro CS3.
Now I have completed editing the timeline and am happy with everything, but now I see there are no Main Menu markers or End Point markers. Can I still make a decent DVD with two main menu motion buttons that each have Play and Scene Selections options below them with everything on the same timeline/sequence, or do I need to create a new sequence and copy everything from part two of my original timeline to the new sequence? Is there a preferred method?
I didn't see this covered in any of the tutorials, help files, forums, or the downloadable manual that I also purchased. Maybe I missed it, but can anyone offer any insight on this?
Thank you!
Matt

Yes, I have Encore installed and did a 4-hour first pass to Export to Encore last night, but it failed about 2 hours in when my Zone Alarm pop-up came up saying it was trying to access the Internet and I was away from my computer for 15 minutes while it was up. Then I restarted it at 11pm and it ran until 3am, when I was hoping to go to bed, but then it began its second pass. Grr! I can't remember if I went to bed at this point and found this when I woke up, or if I was staying up watching its second pass to see if it would go any quicker than the first time, but when it completed, I received this pop-up message:
"The instruction at 0x11ce445a referenced memory at 0x11d00000. The memory could not be written."
When I clicked OK, Adobe Encore shut down.
I'm guessing that if I started with two .AVI files totaling 19.4GB, I should have ended up with something larger than a 3.8GB .M2V file, an 82MB .M2V.XMPSES file, a 936MB .WAV file, and a 3KB .XMP file when this was done rendering. At this point, I don't know what to do with the resulting files or if they are incomplete.
Anyhow, after all that, my main question in my original post was this:
"Can I still make a decent DVD with two main menu motion buttons that each have Play and Scene Selections options below them with everything on the same timeline/sequence, or do I need to create a new sequence and copy everything from part two of my original timeline to the new sequence? Is there a preferred method?"
Thanks!
Matt

15-inch Double-Layer SD

I have a 15" PB G4 with a SuperDrive bought in 2003. How do I know if it is a Double-Layer SD?
The reason for the question is that we had repairs done to this computer and it needed a battery firmware update. Now the batteries need to be calibrated. There are two procedures for calibrating, one for G4's w/o the Double-Layer SD and one for G4's with it. Thus the need to know which process to use.
Thank you,
JWTech

JWT:
I am not able to locate a 2003 15" PB G4 with Double-Layer. The 2003 15" came with Slot-loading Combo or 2x/8x/16x/4x/24x SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW).
Or are you referring to the 2005 15" PB G4 which came with 8x SuperDrive (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)?
Cheers
cornelius

SONY DUAL/DOUBLE LAYER DRIVES

Does anyone know which of Sony's new DVD burners work with the mac? I see that one model works with mac but only the dvd+r discs, ands it's an older model. I've heard some people say that even though the product information doesn't say 'Mac compatible' it still will work with the Mac. Is this true? I would just have to use Toast 6 or Tiger's built in burning software?? Does anyone know if the software will work with Dual/Double layer drives? I cannot find much info on this topic. I know it's still so new.
Thanks for any ideas.
Hana

Visit xlr8yourmac.com's drive compatibility database and see if any others have used the drive that you are considering.

HELP: Burning double layer DVD does not work as expected by project info

Hi,
I have the following problem: I created an new project in iDVD and choose the following settings in the project info: Video-Modus=PAL, Coding=HighQuality, Format=16:9 and DVD-Typ=DoubleLayer. When I saved the project and open it again the project info dialog shows me the following amounts of used space: 1867 MB DVD-ROM, 4595 MB Diashows, 128 MB Menus, 0 MB Film, alltogether 6,48 GB and 200 minutes of duration.
NOW: When I choose to burn the DVD it first tells me that I need to use a double layer DVD because the project is too large to be burned to a normal DVD. If I press OK (having inserted the DL-DVD), I am back in the standard iDVD editing mode. If I then have a look to the settings in the project info it is as follows: 3733 MB DVD-ROM, 4595 MB Menus, 128 MB Menus, 0 MB Film, alltogether 8,31 GB and still 200 minutes of duration. This obviously does not fit to the 7,7 GB DL-DVD so I cannot make iDVD to burn my DVD...
QUESTION: What happend ? Why doubled the DVD-ROM space ? In fact what I can see is that there are several diashows doubled and even lots of picture more than once on the DVD. Could it be that there is a trash somewhere implemented ? I cut and pasted some of the diashows to a different place on the DVD...
Thanks for answers and support.

In fact what I can see is that there are several diashows doubled and even lots of picture more than once on the DVD.
Do you mean "slideshows" instead of diashows?
Did you add anything to the dvd-rom section of the DVD? If not, you may want to check this section to see what's going on.
Also what does map view look like? Does it show anything that may have been duplicated?
Please tell us your current ecoding settings.
In other words, is the encoding set to Best Quality, Best Performance, or Professional Quality?
Lastly, is this Dvd made up of of only slidesshows / images? Or did you also add a movie/s with actual video footage? And if so, what is the total playback / run time of this Dvd in hours and minutes? (keep in mind iDvd doesn't look at size/s but rather total QT playback in minutes; not to exceed 120 mins per SL Dvd-R and twice that amount for DL media).
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DVD drive not burning double layer discs

I was burning a double layer DVD this morning, using Verbatim media, which I've never had any problems with. The drive I was using was a Pioneer DVR-A18M. All of a sudden, after I successfully burned one disc and inserted another DL disc, it refused to burn anymore. I forget the exact error message, but it was something along the lines of the media wasn't recognized, and this persisted for multiple discs that I tried.
Now, yesterday, a friend let me borrow a movie that had a crack in it and the disc came apart in my internal Pioneer drive - but it still worked after that. Odd thing was that the drive would still read and play movies, music, etc but it wouldn't burn anything, tho I don't know if it would burn things other than DL media because I didn't try.
Anyways, while the Pioneer drive - which I just bought after New Years - had been working well, I decided to replace it due to the fact that it wouldn't burn DL discs and a few other minor issues I'd been having with it. The one main issue was that if I left a disc in the drive for too long, I wouldn't be able to eject it or load any new applications. I'd have to reboot the computer to get the disc out, something I never had to do with the only Sony drive that came with my G5.
So, I replaced it with an LG GH22. Upon trying it out, it burned a single layer DVD-R, but will not burn a DL disc. The error message this new drive gives me is, from with Toast:
Sense Key = Illegal Request
Sense Code = 0x24
Invalid Field in CDB
If it would help, I could put the Pioneer drive back in and see exactly what that error message was.
Oh, one last thing. I'd like to replace the E-IDE cable I have, as disc media is never able to reach its full burning speed potential. I'm guessing it's due to the old IDE cable, as my G5 is from 2005?
Thanks!

Ok, I tried using Dragon Burn instead of Toast and it worked fine and the DL disc plays. I have to run out to MCAT class but when I get home, I'll mess around with it some more and try using Toast again, the old drive, etc.

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