New Drives - boot Neo4 Platinum from SATA II?

I am going to re-configure my AMD 64 3200+ K8N Neo4 Platinum mobo to have 2 Hitachi T7K250 SATA II hard drives (currently PC has a single IDE drive that will be removed). I have XP PRO original as well as SP2 on a separate disc. Can anyone suggest a course of action here? Any experience with booting from SATA II? I guess I could leave the IDE drive in place simply to hold the OS and put the 2 SATA II drives in for data.

Quote from: Kaplan on 28-June-05, 01:30:10
Those drives "will be" SATA I until you download an utility from the Hitachi website. So they have to be manually configured to be SATA II.
OIC, I am running a T7K250 250GB Sata II Hiitachi as boot drive now. Hardware manager show it is set at Sata I 1.5
If I manually configured it with the Hitachi utility,i.e. boot from DOS as instructed in the website;
Hitachi web site does not say it must be configure before fresh installation of OS or it can be configure when OS is already installed on the drive;
Neither does Hitachi say any thing about configuring a OS installed drive.
Any effect with my installed Windows XP Pro on the HDD?
Willl it be able to boot again? Please help & advise, thanks!!!
By the way I am using MSI K8N Platinum SLi mobo.

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XP64bit installation halts, K8N Neo4 Platinum - No SATA drives found?

My setup:
Athlon 64 3500+
K8N Neo4 Platinum
2GB OCZ 3200 Premier
2) WD Sata 80GB HD's (for RAID 0)
Nvidia 6800GT Extreme VGA
I was recently lucky enough to get my hands on a real Windows XP Pro64bit Extended Edition. I gathered quite a few 64bit drivers which claim to do the job (so they say.)
However I ran into a very strange issue during installation.
My main concern was getting RAID drivers to utilize after pressing F6 during the Windows install. Unfortunately I could not find Nvidia drivers so I went with the Silicon Image Sil3114 64bit drivers I got from their website. Copied them to a disk and thought I was ready to rock N roll. I have updated all BIOS to latest versions as of the date of this post.
Now I went into the RAID BIOS and setup my RAID 0 Array and both SATA drives are shown. All went well in this dept.
I began my installtion of XP64 and pressed F6 to install the RAID drivers. Popped the floppy in and the driver files were copied successfully.
I continued on to the point where you are prompted to setup Windows XP and it searches for any previous installs.
I continue to where I should get the dislmaimer and to press F8, however the install halts and say no hard drives were found. Setup cannot continue.
Any ideas as to why my drives are not being detected during installation? They show up fine under the RAID setup BIOS.
Any info or thoughts is truly appreciated.

You need to make your own floppy for the nvidia 64 ide drivers.
How to install Windows on SATA using F6 to load Drivers
Follow item 1 Obviously usinfg the Neo4 64bit unified driver pack Windows XP Professional x64 Edition
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New system with Neo4 Platinum doesn't work at all!!!

Hi guys,
I bought my new system:
1 - AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Core Venice
2 - MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum /BIOS 1.1
3 - RAM S3+ 1GB (2x512 MB)
4 - Western Digital Caviar SE 120 GB SATA WD1200JD
5 - Hitachi Deskstar 80 GB SATA II HDS728080PLA380
6 - NEC 3500AG DVD-RW
7 - Albatron 6600GT 128 MB PCI-E
8 - Enermax Noisetaker 485W
Where is the problem?
It's IMPOSSIBLE to install the OS.
I can't install Windows XP, I can't install Windows 2000, I can't install Windows 98.......
When I try to install Windows (no matter what version) the system tell me that it CAN'T read or write some file from the CD to the HD.
No matter what files it is, once it's the shell32.dll...... another installation it's the file ntdll.dll....... another time the file riched20.dll....... another time it's the file "whatTHEhell!" and so....
I tried to connect one only HD, I tried to connect the WD and the same. I tried to connect the HITACHI, and the same.
I tried to connect my HD to SATA 1, 2, 3, 4 on nVidia controller, and the same.
I tried with the Silicon Image controller and nothing changed.
I tried to change the optical drive, I connected my old ASUS CD 50x and disconnected the DVD Writer, but the same.
I've started to think that this could be a cable issue, then I changed the IDE Cable and the SATA cable... but nothing.
I flashed the bios from version 1.1 to 1.4 with the support to Venice core, the same.
I also disconnected my SATA HD and I've plugged in my old PATA HD, an old Samsung 6,4 GB HD............... BUT NOTHING!
I can't imagine nothing more to do to solve the problem, but I'm listening for your advices.
Thank's.
elem

Quote from: Supershanks on 05-June-05, 19:23:35
hi elem,
Type of floppy i meant was 1 with a usb componenent like:-
Mitsumi FA404M 1.44 Silver FDD+Int USB2 7 in 1 Card Reader so if it's just a n ordinary floppy i'd plug it back in.
I'd try 3) Memtest86+ run it as decribed in the link to verify your memory isn't the issue.
luck
Yes Supershanks and blazing storm,
I misanderstood, but now I reattached my floppy and performed a full scan of my HDDs
with their own diagnostic tools, downloaded from the Western Digital and Hitachi websites.
I choosed the DOS version that make a bootable floppy disk and verified the drives.
The HDDs are working fine and there's no errors on the surface, the HDDs are ok.
Quote from: SAB on 05-June-05, 19:35:43
Try swapping the optical drive that you are loading the O.S. from. Make sure SATA controller AND SATA ports are enabled. Make sure IDE controller for floppy is also enabled. Perhaps your optical drive has one piece of dust on just the wrong place. That's all it takes to throw one of those things off!!!
SAB, I've tried to swapping my optical drives yet. I've tried a DVD-RW NEC 3500 AG, then a CD Player from ASUS, then a CD-RW from LITEON.
The same problem with the new system, but these are performing very well on my old pc, then these aren't the problem.
I think the problem could be only on CPU, or MOTHERBOARD or MEMORY.
Thank's Supershanks, I'm downloading MemTest86+ for a memory scan.
I'll let you guys to know as fast as possibile the results!

How to install Leopard to external hard drive & boot the eMac from it.

I am attempting to update my mom's eMac so she can use her new iPad and have discovered it would be best to install Leopard onto an external firewire hard drive and boot from that. I want to be sure I'm doing it right. So, I attach the drive to the eMac, partition and format it (I did find some instructions in the forum) and then how do I load Leopard on the external drive. Would it be best to do all the formatting and installation from my own MacBook Pro? After Leopard is on the external drive, how do I cause the eMac to boot from it?
Or would it be easier to return the iPad, buy the basic Macbook and shine the eMac? Can you tell I'm frustrated?
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how do I load Leopard on the external drive
Install it normally. The drive must be connected with FireWire.
Would it be best to do all the formatting and installation from my own MacBook Pro?
No. It won't work if you do.
how do I cause the eMac to boot from it?
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MSI Neo4 Platinum SiI3114 sata?

Hello,
The nForce SaTA-II ports cause major instability on my system if used to the excess. (i.e. I cant use my computer at all if all 4 are in use, but for now its been fine with 1 drive)
Now i spotted the Silicon image controller there. The problem is, even if i plug my drives to it, they are detected during bootup, but they wont show in windows. Why is that? I just want to access my data. Wouldnt it be STUPID if Id need to format my drives to be able to access them?
How to disable the RAID feature in the silicon image controller?

Quote from: Dewman on 23-March-07, 03:41:10
Well here goes:
They wont show up on the MotherBoard BIOS.
BUT, they DO show up (sizes and all) on the Silicon Image array detection screen, after which it says "No Valid Device!" please setup stuff. (RAID/JBOD)
The mobo BIOS entry is "OnBoard SiI3114 RAID" with "enable/disable" options. Seems the RAID is built in, and its impossible to use the controller without RAID, which means formatting my drives. Or am I wrong?
"BUT, they DO show up (sizes and all) on the Silicon Image array detection screen, after which it says "No Valid Device!" please setup stuff. (RAID/JBOD)"
you have used 2 SATA connected to Silicon ctrl right? well by default Silicon ctrl are configured to operate as RAID. to make your sata hdd which are connected to Sil ctrl, you need to enter into Silicon ctrl utility and to setup them in array. then to be reformated from the OS(Silicon drivers need to loaded as well.).
other way is Silicon ctrl to be configured as plain SATA, that can be done from BIOS, look for Silicon ctrl option. note such thing may not exist. when you enter into BIOS try key combination "shift+f2", then "alt+f3" then search for option to change Silicon ctrl operation mode from RAID to SATA.

Neo4 Platinum - Booting 2 SATA 3.0 drives in RAID 0

I know I'm new to this forum, but I've actually been searching for hours on this subject just today hehe.
Anyway, from what the manual is saying for the K8N Neo4 Platinum motherboard, you have to use the Silicon RAID controller in order to create a bootable RAID array. Is this true?
If not, then is it possible to create a bootable RAID array using the nvRAID controller?
The reason I ask is I would like to take advantage of the new SATA 3.0 drives. Obviously, according to the manual, the Silicon controller only supports SATA 1.5 speeds. It would be pointless to purchase SATA 3.0 drives if I was forced to use the Silicon controller for RAID booting, because the overall speeds would be reduced as if they were 1.5 drives.
So, can I create a bootable RAID array using the nvRAID controller and will the drives be recognized properly as SATA 3.0?
Thanks for you help. I hope it's not too much of a bother.

Thedog,
Sorry, to bring bad new, with K8N Neo4 Platinum motherboard you have to define what the features of a SATA II drive has before you say that you can create and use a RAID 0 array on the nVidia nForce4 Chipset. If the SATA II drive has both 3Gb/s speed and NCQ the current drivers list on MSI Download page, unless they upgrade them today, will not produce a functional RAID 0 Bootable Array.
Many have said that they had SATA II RAID Arrays running on the Noe4 motherboard, but each when they sent me their drive part number provide not be to SATA V2.5 drives, that’s the latest version with all the new features. SATA II with 3Gb/s speed and no NCQ will work fine.
I have been working with MSI Support for over a month now, testing pre-beta BIOS and Pre-Beta Drives. Both the BIOS and RAID Controller drives have problem. The BIOS V1.B and a yet unreleased pre-beta drive will get you a functional RAID 0 running Windows XP Pro 32-bit Edition. There is no driver for Win XP PRO 64 Edition.
If you are, bond and determined the use the newest SATA II that include all the new features. I have a copy of the pre-beta 32-bit Windows RAID drivers MSI sent me for testing, that I will send you, just send me a Personal Message with you E-mail address in it and I will send the drives zip file to you.
I will more than likely get more people saying they have SATA II RAID Arrays running, but there is not one, I have not been able to prove wrong. ASUS and MSI have the same problems and to date both have failed to produce, because the problem I nVidia’s problem.
Roger

How can I install OS 10.9.4 on a new drive & delete it from my old drive?

I just got an SSD and would like to have it be the drive that runs my system (10.9.4) software. I'm not sure how to install the system software on that drive and get it off the regular drive.
Can anyone point me to instructions for doing that or tell me how?
Thanks!

How to replace or upgrade a drive in a laptop
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Boot from your Recovery HD. Select Disk Utility from the main menu and click on the Continue button. After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer.
If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior and/or Tech Tool Pro to repair the drive. If you don't have either of them or if neither of them can fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall OS X.
Step Two: Remove the old drive and install the new drive. Place the old drive in an external USB enclosure. You can buy one at OWC who is also a good vendor for drives.
Step Three: Boot from the external drive. Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager appears. Select the icon for the external drive then click on the downward pointing arrow button.
Step Four: New Hard Drive Preparation
1. Open Disk Utility in your Utilities folder.
2. After DU loads select your new hard drive (this is the entry with the
      mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of
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      is failing or has failed and will need replacing. Otherwise, click on the
      Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from
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      GUID then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and
      wait until the process has completed.
4. Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the
      drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main
      window.
5. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the
      Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to
      return to the Erase window.
6. Click on the Erase button. The format process can take up to several
      hours depending upon the drive size.
Step Five: Clone the old drive to the new drive
Boot Using Command+R keys:
1. Restart the computer.
2. Immediately after the chime press and hold down the
      "COMMAND" and the "R" keys together.
3. Release the keys when the Utilities Menu appears.
1. Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder.
2. Select the destination volume from the left side list.
3. Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
4. Check the box labeled Erase destination.
5. Select the destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the
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6. Select the source volume from the left side list and drag it to the
      Source entry field.
7. Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
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Step Six: Open the Startup Disk preferences and select the new internal volume. Click on the Restart button. You should boot from the new drive. Eject the external drive and disconnect it from the computer.

K8N Neo4 Platinum Bios Update - Best Procedure?

I have built a new system:
K8N Neo4 Platinum Award Bios Version 1.3
ATHLON XP64 X2 4200+ E4 Stepping
2GB Transcend RAM (2x1GB)
EVGA 6600GT 128MB PCI-E
Samsung Spinpoint 200GB SATA on Sata1
Samsung TS-H522U DVD-RW
Floppy
Seventeam ST-550EAG 3.3V= 30A, 5.0V=30A, 12V1= 18A, 12V2= 18A
Windows XP Pro SP2
I'm not overclocking and DOT is disabled. Optimized parameters are loaded.
System is running but my BIOS version does not support dual core. I have installed all NForce 6.66 drivers and VGA drivers, and all Windows updates. What is the best procedure to flash bios, Winflash or MSI floppy method? What version of BIOS should i try, 1.6 or 1.8?
Thanks.

Quote from: hansh on 27-September-05, 16:34:38
Hi, when you ask 10 people about the best method to flash BIOS, you will probably get 10 different answers
Some observations:
1. Flashing under Windows has become "normal procedure" for boards of most other manufacturers; (I will not use this method for my MSI boards, though, because of the negative opinion on it in this forum. If the comments are correct, then the only conclusion can be that MSI software engineers are at present not able to deliver a Window-based flashing program with which MSI-BIOSes can be flashed into MSI boards in a safe way. I'd rather not find out the exact reason for this . I have used Windows-based flashing programs numerous times with boards from other manufacturers - Abit, Asus, Soltek, ECS, etc. without any problem).
2. If the procedure as described by Syar really has significant advantages over "plain flashing", then it means that either the BIOSes are flaky, or the boards are instable. Such precautions have never been necessary and should not be necessary! I can only recommend - just to be on the safe side - that, while flashing, you dance around the computer, carrying two carrots, an onion and chanting "Flash! Flash! Flash!
3. There is something to say for not flashing from a floppy. Floppies are the oldest part of nowadays computers and the medium is probably the least failsafe part ... Therefore I have reserved a small (100 MB) FAT32 partition on a HDD, BIOS files and most recent flashing program will be copied to that partition. I will start the PC with a W98SE bootflop, go to that partition and flash from there. I have used this method a great number of times over the years, I will never add any switch when running the program.
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Regards
Hans
Hi hansh,
thanks for that. I'll boot with a Win98 bootCD (NTFS support included) and thinking about flashing with an Iomega USB pen drive (FAT32). Any comments here?
And, blazing storm, thanks again for your valuable reply.

K8N Neo4 Platinum power on/off problem

Hi all.
I just got a K8N Neo4 Platinum, and have a problem with switching it on and off.
When I switch on the mains to the PC PS(before turning the PC on), the fans start turning, and I hear disks spinning up. The PC power LED is off, but the HD LED is on. There is no picture on the monitor.
If I then switch the PC on, it boots normal, power LED is on, and the HD LED is normal. The PC is working absolutely normal, with winXP.
But when I turn the PC off again, the fans remain on, power LED goes off, HD LED on. And I can't switch the PC on again, till I have toggled the mains supply.
I have tried measuring what comes on the power connector. It looks like there is still 12V when the PC is supposed to be switched off. Don't know if that is right.
There is also 5VSB and PWR OK, but I think they are supposed to be there.
I hope I have been able to explain the problem in understandable english.
Jens G

Quote from: fflex on 02-March-05, 19:21:07
That the comp turn itself on when the different front side connectors etc isnt in, i dont think that's a problem with ur PSU.
Same thing happend to me when i forgot to plug them in a couple of days ago. I got a Tagan 480W, and its flawless!
Have u ever considered unplugging everything, and doing it from the beginning? ......
I have tried from the beginning many times, but it's always failing.
BUT..... Today I got a new K8N Neo4 Platinum from a vendor next door to where I work, and it works perfectly
I had a suspicion that the motherboard was causing the fail, but couldn't be sure without trying a new one. Now the first one is going back to the shop where I bought it.
Thanks to all for all the suggestions you have come up with.
Jens G

Installing OS on new drive but selling Mac?

Hi there
I’ve just upgraded to a new 27" iMac and I’m going to sell the old one (spec below). I need to replace the hard drive because its faulty and want to sell the Mac with Mountain Lion installed.
So firstly, I don’t think the new drive is formatted in anyway (WD 1TB Caviar Blue). So after I install the new drive will disk-utility from an old Snow Leopard disk see the drive in order for me to format it, ready for the OS install?
And secondly, If I then install Mountain Lion and delete myself as the main user and create a new Admin user, will future owners of the Mac be able to update and upgrade the OS without my details?
Thank you in advance.

You can't do that because it will always be associated with your Apple ID.
The proper way to "clean" a computer before selling it is to zero the hard drive. This will make all your data irretrievable.
Steps for zeroing the drive Disk Utility:
1. Insert your Mac OS X CD-ROM disc or Restore DVD disc, then restart the computer while holding the C key until you see the spinning gear.
2. Once started up from CD or DVD, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu.
Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from disc to access Disk Utility.
3. Choose the entire disk (top icon).
4. Choose erase tab.
5. Click on Options
6. Choose "write zeros".
7. Erase
This will take a bit of time because the computer is physically writing zeros to each block.
You should then re-install the original OS from the system disks and deliver the Mac to the new owner with the system disks that shipped with it.
If you want it to boot as new at startup, do the installation of OS X and follow the onscreen prompts until it asks you to enter a username and password to create your first account. Quit the installer and shut down the system. The next time the system is powered on it will display the same welcome message and be ready to setup OS X.

Expand HD Partition in Lion on New Drive

I have a new disk drive in my macbook. It is running lion. It is a 500 GB drive. My old drive was 160GB. The new drive boots as the HD drive but only uses 159 GB. I have tried to expand it to 500GB in Disk utility but it will not let me and just goes back to 159GB. I can add a 340 GB partition but I want it all together.
How can I expand HD so that it uses the entire 500GB?
Any help is much appreciated.

You can expand it, the question is what you can accomplish with repartitioning the drive.
To resize the drive do the following:
1. Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the COMMAND and R keys until the menu screen appears. Alternatively, restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager screen appears. Select the Recovery HD and click on the downward pointing arrow button.
After the main menu appears select Disk Utility and click on the Continue button. Select the hard drive's main entry then click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
2. You should see the graphical sizing window showing the existing partitions. A portion may appear as a blue rectangle representing the used space on a partition.
3. In the lower right corner of the sizing rectangle for each partition is a resizing gadget. Select it with the mouse and move the bottom of the rectangle downwards to fill the gray space all the way to the bottom. Click on the Apply button and wait until the process has completed. (Note: You can only make a partition smaller in order to create new free space.)
It would be wise to have a backup of your current system as resizing is not necessarily free of risk for data loss. Your drive must have sufficient contiguous free space for this process to work.
If this doesn't work then add a new partition in the gray area. Once you've added a second partition try deleting the new partition, then extend old partition.
One probable reason this may not work is that in installing Lion the Recovery HD has been placed at the end of your existing volume. While the Recovery HD partition is there you cannot extend the partition. So, the best thing to do in this case is to boot from the Recovery HD, repartition the drive into a single partition of 500 GBs and let Disk Utility relocate the Recovery HD. Of course you will have to reinstall Lion:
Install or Reinstall Lion from Scratch
If possible backup your files to an external drive or second internal drive.
Boot to the Recovery HD:
Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the COMMAND and R keys until the menu screen appears. Alternatively, restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager screen appears. Select the Recovery HD and click on the downward pointing arrow button.
Repartition the hard drive:
1. Select Disk Utility from the main menu and click on the Continue button.
2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. SMART info will not be reported on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from the drop down menu to one. Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID then click on the OK button. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Partition button and wait until the process has completed.
Reinstall Lion: Select Reinstall Lion and click on the Install button.
Note: You can also re-download the Lion installer by opening the App Store application. Hold down the OPTION key and click on the Purchases icon in the toolbar. You should now see an active Install button to the right of your Lion purchase entry. There are situations in which this will not work. For example, if you are already booted into the Lion you originally purchased with your Apple ID or if an instance of the Lion installer is located anywhere on your computer.

How to fix Grub after moving arch to new drive [SOLVED]

I moved my Arch install (/ and /home partitions) to a new drive and I was wondering how to fix Grub so that it knows /boot is on the new drive. What I've done thus far is
create partitions on the new drive and dd my current / and /home partitions to them. The new partitions are bigger than the current ones, so I also re-sized the filesystems to fill the new partitions. My disk/partition setup is the following
/dev/sda1 2048 488392703 488390656 232.9G 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT (Storage)
/dev/sdb1 * 2048 206847 204800 100M 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT (System reserved)
/dev/sdb2 206848 102402047 102195200 48.7G 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT (Windows 7)
/dev/sdb3 * 102402048 141472127 39070080 18.6G 83 Linux (Current Arch /)
/dev/sdb4 141472128 250069679 108597552 51.8G 83 Linux (Current Arch /home)
/dev/sdc2 * 206848 105064447 104857600 50G 83 Linux (New Arch /)
/dev/sdc3 105064448 234441647 129377200 61.7G 83 Linux (New Arch /home)
After I resized the filesystems, I then created a new grub.cfg file (on /dev/sdb3) that is aware of the new Arch system. I can boot to both my current and new Arch installs and run them fine, but ultimately I want to remove the current Arch install so I can make more room for my Windows 7 install. What do I need to do to grub, so it knows to use the new Arch system.
Last edited by tlawren (2014-08-17 21:42:46)

@Xyne - Thanks! Installing grub on my /dev/sdc did the trick. Because I dd'ed my old setup to a new drive, /boot/grub was already populated, so all I had to do was install and configure grub on the new drive via the following.
grub-install --target=i386-pc --recheck --debug /dev/sdx
grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
I used os-prober to find the other OS's (Windows 7 and my old Arch). After some testing, I will wipe my old Arch setup and then resize Windows into the free space.

"Restoring" to a new drive using Backup, which Catalog is active now?

I have PSE 5 and just added a new internal hard drive because the original drive (my C drive) is nearly full. I read some posts here about moving the files using the Folder View, etc. (I got the memo on DO NOT move using Windows Explore, so I am at least somewhat coachable) and I successfully moved a few individual folders from the C dirve to the new drive, but then couldn't figure out how to do a mass move. I have 34k photos occupying 146 GB of space with hundreds of folders. So rightly or wrongly, I decided to populate the files to the new drive using the "Restore from Backup" command using a current Full Backup that is on my external hard drive that I use strictly for backing up. That seemed to go just fine. When I open the Organizer, the file locations map to the new internal drive as desired. I've disconnected the external drive now to keep it safe.
My question is regarding which is the current and correct Catalog File. When I used the "restore" command, all the files and the Catalog file were copied from the external back up drive to the new internal hard drive. (That is no surprise.) But of course there is a Catalog file also on the original C drive. So when I open the Organizer, which Catalog is being opened, the one on my C drive, or the one on the new internal hard drive? How would one know? When I look at Edit/Preferences/Files, it still says I'm mapping the Catalog File to reside on my C drive. (Again, not a surprise, it has always resided on my C drive). I'm ok with that long term, but having two identical Catalog files one two different hard drives seems like a bad plan. I want to delete the (now duplicate) photo files off my C drive now to regain capacity, and I thought I should delete the Catalog file also from either the C drive or the new internal hard drive I just populated with the photo files. I just don't know which one is "active".
Any help here is greatly appreciated. Once I get this figured out and I clear the C drive, I intend to update to PSE 8, so I'll be reading up on pointers as to how to do that smoothly.

Thanks Barb. I do find the Catalog Folder on my C (original) drive. I do not see it on the new drive near where the new Catalog is. This is supported by what I said in the earlier post that when I moved the Catalog Folder (containing the thumbnail cache) from my C drive to my desktop and then opened the Organizer, I got the "hourglass" and could tell the thumbs were being (slowly) recreated. I moved the file back, re-opened the Organizer and they populated normally.
I am very curious (more like concerned) to know how to get it all files working from the same place on the new drive. When I check Edit/Preferences/Files, the "Save Catalogs In:" option is still mapping to my C drive, because I never changed that; I just restored from backup to a new drive. Could that mean that as time goes on I'll be writing Catalog updates to certain folders on the C drive, and other files (like the main Catalog) will be updating on the new drive? I sure don't want that. My goal is to DELETE everything related to PSE from the C drive (i've already deleted all the actual photo files) but I can't tell if that'll wreak havoc with these Catalog Folders. I wonder if I need to map the Save Catalogs In to the new drive. What's odd is that I know the program is accessing the main Catalog from the new drive. I moved that file to my desktop and when I opened the Organizer I got the message saying the Catalog wasn't there and asking for me to point to it. I moved the Catalog back to the new drive and it worked fine.

New K8N Neo4 Platinum build. Help, Nforce4 driver question?

I am building a new K8N Neo4 Platinum system (see my sig). I wanted to get the latest Nforce4 drivers, before installing XP. I noticed on the Nvidia website a 5.10 Unified Driver download and a 6.66 AMD download. Which should I use? It looks like the versions in the 5.10 Unified Driver are actually older than what is in the Nforce4 drivers, from the MSI site. If I use the 6.66 AMD drivers, should I make a SATA Raid Driver floppy, from them, to use during the XP install? Any advice is appreciated.

just do it from a floppy, LiveUpdate is crap
and yes you HAVE to F6 these drivers on Windows install if you plan on using SATA or you cannot boot from SATA
unfied drivers are NOT FOR NFORCE 4. You MUST use the NF4-specific 6.66 (or earlier)
Unified Drivers are specific only to nForce 1/2/3. AMD and Intel each have specific and unique driver sets for nForce4.
download 6.66, extract and explore the folder
go to IDE->Win2K->SATARAID and copy everything in this folder to a floppy
make two floppies just to be safe
you cannot use CD, you MUST use floppy because Windows will look in a: only
as soon as Windows install starts you will see a screen that says "Press F6 to install third party SCSI or RAID driver"... hit F6 and insert floppy and after a few minutes, you will get a screen that says"
"Press S to install other drivers..."
press S
next screen comes up, first select and install "nVidida Raid class driver (required)" -->hit enter
back to "Press S to install other drivers..." screen
press S again
screen wil come up again, this time choose and install ""nVidia nforce storage controller(required)"
one more time back to "press S to instal other drivers...", this time just hit ENTER
now you're good to go

K8N Neo4 Platinum, how to move MBR to sata (make it drive #1)?

I am not sure I am phrasing the question correctly, so bear with me. I have a K8N Neo4 platinum with the SiI3114 controller and sata ports 4-8 (I believe its what they are calling PCB 1.x) with bios v1.D. I moved the board to another box and installed winXP on it. I was running it with IDE hard drives. Everything was working great but the OS was running really slow so I bought a SATA 300 mb/s drive and pluged it into SATA1 (I read about using ports 3 and 4 for raid but I do not want to use the NVraid at all, it is disabled). Then I proceeded to reinstall win XP. In the setup, I deleted the original C partiton and created one on the sata drive and rebooted so that there would be no "C" drive confusion by the winxp setup (have had that problem before and this keeps it from happening). Went through the setup and the sata was correctly reported as "C". Told windows to install itself there but it told me that it needed to write to MBR on the old c drive but that, since I had deleted the partiton, it couldn't and had to format it. So I knew that something was wrong.
So I rebooted and disabled the ide bus that contained the old IDE drive and just left the CD ide bus enabled. WinXP installed fine with no complaints. Then it rebooted and I re-enabled the ide bus in the bios. It wouldn't boot into the partiton I just installed winxp on! To get it to boot, I had to use F11 (the bios boot menu) and select the sata drive. Went through the whole setup winXP thing and rebooted. Same problem, it wouldn't boot the sata drive. :(
As long as that ide bus with the old ide drive is enabled, it won't boot the sata drive! I have rearranged the boot order on the bios every way possible. I opened up the box and moved that ide chain with the old ide drive to the ide2 port and put the dvd drive on ide1. I made the old drive slave and the prior slave master. That didn't fix it either. How do I tell this motherboard that the 1st drive is the sata drive? How do I tell it the MBR should be there not on the old ide drive? How do I fix this? Thanks!

Thank you for your replies! Hans, thank you I will give it a go again doing full formats all the way. I usually use the full format when installing winXP but I did things in a different order than you instructed so I will definately try it.
Aicjofs, thank you, There are 3 hard drives in this system currently. There is the ide hard drive that used to be the "c" drive (a western digital 160gb ata133 7200rpm 8mb cache) and a second ide hard drive that is an extended partition with 1 logical drive with data on it (western digital 300gb ata133 7200rpm 8mb cache). Then there is a sata hard drive in sata1 port with 2 partitions one primary and one extended. The extended partion does have data on it as I moved stuff there after I got winXP up the 2nd time (western digital 250gb sata II 7200rpm 16mg cache). Right now, I have the ide drive with data on it as ide2 master and the old "c" drive as ide2 slave and it is unformatted and contains no partion information (I deleted the partition after I installed the SATA drive and installed winXP). XP won't boot. What happens is that, if I take the winxp cd out, it gives me a "no system" error. If I leave the WinXP cd in it boots that disk. However, if I use "f11" and choose to boot the sata drive, winxp comes up just fine. If I disable the ide bus with the two ide hard drives, it boots winxp just fine.
Edit: bios is v1.D. It feels like this mobo is telling windows setup that the master ide drive is the first disk and to ignore everything else. It feels like if I can just tell the mobo that the sata drive is the first disk then everything will work . It is late night where I am now, and I've been fighting with this since the afternoon so I might have to goto sleep but I will be back at it tomorrow and will go though what Hans instructed. If anyone has any otehr ideas, I'd really appreciate that as well.

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